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Mac2LC,

1. No, they aren't. Read this ENTIRE thread for reasons why.
2. $100 is still 400% overpriced, as the $25 Koss UR-20's sound the same, and, besides, the $80 Sony MDR-V6 sound better.
3. Because they have been bought out by Sony! And listen to live mixes done by those pro DJ's... notice they don't have any LOW bass in mixes done with those cans. I wonder why? The answer is, they don't have any low bass because the DJ can't HEAR it TO MIX IT!

*Dude, just TRY the Koss UR-20's, okay? And keep an open mind, will ya?

You know, *I* would "give a shit" if I was paying 400% more than something is worth! That's a ripoff! And do you want to know WHY the VCRAPDJ series is so expensive? It shouldn't be. In Japan, that series is like, a third as expensive, which is closer to the actual value of the cans. Anyways, when that series was first introduced (before the phrase "Sony Quality" was termed and sony was just another company), they were that cheap here to, but, then, the Japanese Yen got weak to the US dollar, and Sony, realizing that they now had market share, and, therefore, didn't have to MAKE so high quality products any more, becuase people thought their products were good (and, before they had name recognition, they WERE good! The V6's were designed before the Sony name was big.), so, now, with yen going screwy against USD, sony just let the price go up and up and up, and kept making their products look cooler and cooler, and sound worse and worse, and people just kept buying and buying and buying, until we get to the current mess we have now: people thinking that the VCRAPDJ series sounds good, people thinking Streetstyle phones sound good, and people willing to pay more that $25 for all of the crap that sounds bad.

*pause, and then laughs* Arguing like a girl? Max, you're the one, I believe, who is screaming. Heheheh... *checks your info* Oh, you're 13. That's why...

Hehe, Gluegun...


Game. Set. Match.

Re: OMFG !!!

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Originally posted by Max2LC Yo It's a forum...@#$% it's like we are arguing about a girl....s*** if MDRV-500's are better I don't give a f**k...buy them...@#$% yo...some tranceaddicts are just way wiered...i just gave my oppinion, @#$% dudes..............

Well, I don't give a f**k about which DJ headphones is better - or which ones SUCK!!!

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Originally posted by Gluegun *Dude, just TRY the Koss UR-20's, okay? And keep an open mind, will ya?

*falls over laughing* Those UR-20's SUCK for DJing!!! Their earcups don't swivel far enough for one-sided monitoring - and they're very bulky, so you can't easily move an earcup off of an ear for monitoring from loudspeakers (those super-bulky earcups get in the way). So why do you recommend many of the headphones that aren't at all suitable for DJs?

All of a sudden, I can no longer hear any low bass at all - not even from my MDR-7506's! AARRRRGH!!! My hearing's all f**ked up!!!!!!!!

for all you retards who are writing.

the mvdj700's are the best. all the djs wear them.

shut. the. fuck. up.
if all the djs whore thongs on their fuckin heads would u do it you following pieces of mindless shit. if you wanna defend your earphones, defend them from experience. just cuz some hotshot dj wears them DOES NOT MEAN SHIT. maybie they are given them by promotion and are too damn busy to hit a store. maybie they just use them for beat matching and dont care if they sound good. and if your bragging about boy george wearing them, maybie he just wears em cuz he thinks they make him look more like a wacko.


ps i sampled the sony headphones, my friends own them, and after sampling i bought a technics rpdj-1200a.

i have those technics, too. But I think they are CRAP. Everybody's technics lost one channel after 2 months to a year, because of the swiveling tearing on the wire
And to gluegun: I think you know a lot about headphones, but you don't DJ, right? I agree with you that many DJs use the Sonys cause they got a deal for that. But that's not the reason that their live-mixes don't have any bass (which I doubt). This is more a recording problem, I'd say. Also, I've been spinning for 8 years now and would never use the headphones for EQ-ing. As almost every DJ I know, I keep most of the EQs near the center all the time. Only when in the mix I will take out the bass of one of the records and "change" the bass from record A to B. All the other EQing depends on the monitor you are using. And this is the real problem, cause many club owners don't care to spend real bucks on this. But it's the most important part of the whole club system. If the DJ listens to his own set over this cheap-ass PA monitor, he will f**k up the EQ for sure. But that's not the headphones' fault.

gluegun, could you please inform me about the HD25's and the SP's sensitivity. I am interested in these, but whenever I see a DJ who played before me, they have the Phones volume all the way up, whereas I need to stay at 3-4 with my technics.

I agree that the sony v700's are crap.. I bought them 6 months ago to replace my sennheisers hd25sp.. Initially i thought they sounded good cos they were pretty loud.. But after using it for a few months i kinda noticed it was hard to mix especially if u have a split cue on the mixer and try to mix in the phones.. I've gone back to using my 5 year old sennheisers and going to buy the hd25...

djdawn,

The HD25SP and the HD25's are both pretty efficient-good enough to be powered by a portable, even. The 25SP have an impedance of 85 ohms, whereas the 25's are 70 ohms. I would think that both would go quite loud in any system.

Shadyslim,

Yea, yea, sorry...hey, do the Koss R100's swivel enough?

Gluegun, I haven't seen any R100's in person, so I can't comment here. And as for my sometimes f**ked-up hearing, my low-bass hearing returned. My sinuses had been intermittently acting up, f**king up my low-bass sensitivity.

As for the sensitivity of the Sennheiser HD 25, it's 120dB @ 1kHz @ 1Vrms - equivalent to about 108dB @ 1mW. The HD 25-SP is lower in sensitivity [100dB @ 1kHz @ 1Vrms = 89dB @ 1mW]. But many very-low-voltage headphone outputs can drive 85-ohm headphones more efficiently [at a given voltage level] than they do 24-ohm headphones.

I had the Sennheiser HD-25sp and replaced them wuth the Techies...
When i was in the store testing them they sounded sooooooo much better than those crappy V700DJ's!!!

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom
I'LL FORWARD THAT TO GLUEGUN !!!! AND NERUDA !!!!
WE'LL SEE THEIR REPLY

LOL !!!!!!!!!

1. MDR-V6 (& MDR-7506) ARE THE BEST
2. THEY COST $80 - LOOK AT ONLINE STORES !!!!
3. IF YOU DJS THINK THE MDR-V###DJ (OR MDR-VCRAPDJ) ARE BETTER THAN THE MDR-V6 THEN WHY DO PROFESSIONAL RECORDING ENGINEERS USE THE MDR-V6 >?????????

THINK ABOUT THESE 3 QUESTIONS. WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED READ AGAIN.
ENJOY SHIM SLADY

*Falls over laughing*

LLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLL

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
I GOT A FAN !!!!!!

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Originally posted by dazzed if all the djs whore thongs on their fuckin heads would u do it you following pieces of mindless shit

YOOOOOOOOOOOO
THAT'S A GOOD IDEA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHIIIIIIIT WE GOT SOME SMART PEOPLE......
WATCH ME WEAR A THONG ON INTERNATION DJ EXPO IN ATLANTIC CITY !!!
I'LL GET THE MOST RESPECT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by djdawn This is more a recording problem, I'd say. Also, I've been spinning for 8 years now and would never use the headphones for EQ-ing. As almost every DJ I know, I keep most of the EQs near the center all the time. Only when in the mix I will take out the bass of one of the records and "change" the bass from record A to B. All the other EQing depends on the monitor you are using. And this is the real problem, cause many club owners don't care to spend real bucks on this. But it's the most important part of the whole club system. If the DJ listens to his own set over this cheap-ass PA monitor, he will f**k up the EQ for sure. But that's not the headphones' fault.

COMPLETELY AGREE...FOR PRODUCING NO DOUBT...U GONNA NEED GOOD MONITORS BECAUSE EQ IS REALLY IMPORTANT THERE....
BUT FOR DJ'N BASICLY ALL THAT MATTERS IS MATCH THE BEAT EXACTLY, and make it sound good together when u mix..i don't think EQ is the main thing there....Yes a lot of DJ's take out the bass on the deck B when they fade to it.........That's about it...If I would write more Mr.Shady Slim will start rapping to it

*cough*cough*

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Originally posted by Max2LC You Will Be The Dumbest DJ if you pick something Over Sony MDRV-700 !!! Have u seen mayday>??? basicly every good DJ had them on !!! i baught em... i luv em

Max2LC, The Sony MDR-V700DJ's are among the better headphones - for beat matching. And had the likes of Tiesto and Paul van Dyk been doing the mixing at a club near where I live, that's exactly what those big-name DJs will use those "over-hyped" MDRV-700's for. (In other words, look at the box that the MDRV-700's came packaged in - they're for "DJ Remix Use", NOT for critical music listening - and those big-name DJs will seldom use the MDRV-700's for critical music listening.) So, those so-called "headphone gods", I don't give a f**k on how a pair of headphones designed for DJs sound, as long as they do their intended job well. But I'll definitely use some of the headphones that have been recommended by those "headphone gods" for music listening.

And whoever said the MDR-V700DJ headphones suck has obviously been using them for the WRONG purpose.

Happy listening.

Appreciate your understanding !!!

if you know what good, clean sound is suppose to sound like, go with sennheiser hd25, hd25sp. The difference between the sennheisers and ANY SONY is just too obvious.

I can't believe some of you still think the sony's are better, I've tried the v6, v600, v700 and it's awful compared to the sennheisers. The difference is so clear but some of you still can't notice it?

some of you must've grown up on little boom boxes and don't know what clear sound is suppose to sound like. I grew up with high end, home audiophile equipment so I know. If you know what good, clear strong sound is suppose to sound like, you'll know the sennheisers are the way to go.

not only do they sound 1000 times better, they weigh less than half of any sony v6, v600, v700, that way you don't have to feel like you have a vice on your head, the lightness is just amazing. IT'S GOOD FOR BOTH DJ MONITORING AND CRITICAL STUDIO LISTENING.

djVersus,

Yea, I know what you're saying. I've got the full sized cans that are one step up in quality from the HD25's--the Beyerdynamic DT831's...they rawk, but they need some juice behind them, though.

ShadySlim,

If you will read back a little, yea, I *DID* say that they were capable of using the V700's because they used them in so narrow an application--IE, JUST beat matching... However, I do think that, for that purpose, they are overpriced for what you get...

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Originally posted by Gluegun ShadySlim, If you will read back a little, yea, I *DID* say that they were capable of using the V700's because they used them in so narrow an application--IE, JUST beat matching... However, I do think that, for that purpose, they are overpriced for what you get...

LOL !!!!

That tremendous extra cost (of those V700's) ACTUALLY goes into making a normally mid-bass-heavy pair of headphones much more convenient to DJ with! I actually tried DJ'ing with cheaper headphones with the same type of sound... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! Those cheaper cans REALLY SUCK for DJ'ing!!!!!!!!! That pair (I don't want to mention the brand or model) doesn't swivel AT ALL, and if I tried setting one of its earpieces off an ear, it just keeps getting back in the way! And another pair of "DJ" cans that are very inexpensive had no bass whatsoever - not even the mid-bass!

And I actually shopped for a pair of mid-bass-heavy pair of headphones that are TRULY suitable for DJ's - and ALL of them cost well over $100 at retail, with mostly mediocre sound quality for music to boot! (Cheaper headphones either have a relatively weak mid-bass response or don't swivel far enough to allow one-sided monitoring!)

So, Gluegun, if you're DJ'ing, you'll just have to settle for a HORRIBLE performance-to-price ratio when it comes to headphones! All of the headphones with a GOOD performance-to-price ratio are TRULY unsuitable for DJ's!

Well, I think I figured it out...We need to ask this question when trying to find DJ headphones:

Does the DJ NEED bloated midbass/lower midrange/upper bass for beat matching, or can they do with a more accurate set of cans?

If the answer is no, they can get all of the dj-specific construction from a good, cheap, high quality set of cans with a good value, but if the answer is yes, they will have to pay extra for a far lower quality set of cans, to get the dj-specific construction.

I have the technics, which i consider to have nice clean bass. i notice that if my beat matching is slightly (very slightly) off, that the bass still hit together but it doesnt have that clean THUMP. I'd imagine if i had a pair of cans that had super powerful but not clean bass. i wouldn't be able to distinguish the difference until it was playing live. and once its live it's risky to start touching your records.

i say go high end - money allowing

AAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rant alert be prepared

Will this headphones debate ever end.

Slim Shady summed everything up like 3 pages ago:
I quote:
there are headphones for DJ monitoring/beat matching, headphones for studio monitoring, headphones for pure music listening... and headphones that are pure crap. The headphones that most of you use kinda belong to the first category (DJ monitoring); the ones Gluegun suggested belong to either the second (studio monitoring) or third (serious music listening) category.

If your using headphones for DJing all you need is a nice clean bass sound, your only gonna use the damn things to cue your next record, Shit if your beatmatching is tight the bass should be all the way off on the cued channel and it should gradually replace the bass for the one playing, when your at that point you don't even need your headphones on anymore. If you wanna mess with the EQ, that cool, but your sure as hell are not gonna use your headphones to do that, Your gonna use your monitor speaker, you know the big fuck off speaker thats blaring right in your ear. All of this Dj dawn stated earlier, by the way.

And if you answered Yes to Glueguns question for needing bloated midbass/lower midrange/upper bass for beat matching,I revert back to one of my original statements

I quote myself:

Bottom line if you blame your crap mixing on your headphones, odds are your a CRAP Dj, stop blaming equipment for your own personal failure.

If you can't beatmatch with a decent pair of headphones, try more practice and not a more expensive or SUPERIOR, that was sarcasm, pair of headphones

And to the person who started this thread, Transa what were you going to use the headphones for, and did your question ever get answered? What headphones did you end up getting?

Sorry for the rant but I just returned from Italy to find 7 e-mail on headphones in my inbox.(haha)

LOL!!! That's right! A typical club mix from a CRAP DJ will have a noticeable discrepancy in the transition between two different tunes as far as the beat goes [a very amateurish job in that transition - he either doesn't have the proper equipment to DJ with, or (more likely) he doesn't know how to properly use the pitch controls on properly designed DJ equipment]. Just don't blame otherwise crappy-sounding headphones for the problems of the typical CRAP DJ.

Happy beat-matching.

Here's my headphones..........i luv them

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