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what the hell do sports have to do with a child's welfare!?
oh no!!! my dad wasn't an all-star football player! i'm doomed for life!
what the hell does good parenting have to do with being good at a sport. that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. you think a person's sexual preference influences their physical activities? i've been in theatre for about 8 years...i know many a gay. i know lesbians on the softball team...i know lesbians who play hockey...i know gay men in football....i know gay men in gymnastics.
that argument is completely pointless. not only is it irrelevant if gays play sports or not in order to be good parents, but, just like other people, gay people can play sports too!
oh and drug tito- you can't choose to be gay. you can act gay, you can pretend to be gay, but you can't just wake up one day and say "i think i'll turn gay today" it doesn't work like that. gay people i know personally knew as early as 5 years old that they were different from other people their age. i said this a few pages back, but i'll say it again. they knew they were gay before they even knew what gay was.
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| Originally posted by prolikewhoa oh and drug tito- you can't choose to be gay. you can act gay, you can pretend to be gay, but you can't just wake up one day and say "i think i'll turn gay today" it doesn't work like that. gay people i know personally knew as early as 5 years old that they were different from other people their age. i said this a few pages back, but i'll say it again. they knew they were gay before they even knew what gay was. |
in my opinion, bisexuality is either nymphomania or indecision. either you don't care how you get laid, or you can't decide which you like better.
many many many bisexuals i know are probably just still in the closet some but are all out gay.
I agree with anuneventrade fully.
Why gay marriage isn't fully legal and equal to that of the straight marriage is beyond me 
I guess some people are either blind or dumb.
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| Originally posted by prolikewhoa i don't know if this has already been addressed, i skimmed over the thread, but i think it's funny how homophobic people automatically assume that every gay person is the same and flaunts their sexuality and has parades and dress in drag and only have anal sex. it's ridiculous. not every straight person flaunts their sexuality, either. the very reason that there are gay rights parades, civil rights protests, rallys, etc, is because there is a problem with them being accepted in their community. if gays weren't discriminated against, they would have no need for parades to try and gain acceptance. it makes me so mad when people think that homophobia is okay because of the way a few people decide to act. yes there are some gay people who embody the butch lesbian stereotype, as well as the effeminate gay man. who cares. there are people who fit all kinds of stereotypes. usually, in cases of intelligent people, an entire group of people can not be judged based on the follies of one person. i have many many many gay friends, as i have been in theatre since 3rd grade. every single one of them knew from a very early age, even before they knew what sex was, that they were different from their peers. they knew they were gay before they even knew what gay was. being gay is not a fad, a phase, or even a choice. it's part of who someone is. i can't bring myself to even fathom why someone should be denied the same rights as other people because of a characteristic they had nothing to do with. gay marriage should be legal in ALL states. |
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| Originally posted by rizen [url] PRESIDENT BUSH: As you know, I'm a person who believes in judicial restraint, as opposed to judicial activism that takes the place of the Legislative Branch.[/i] |
where are all the christian radicals and the rest of the anti-gay marriage ppl who say it would degrade the constitution of marriage. why the fuck arent they speaking about britney and her super short marriage? thats a worse fuck you to marriage than two ppl who are in love. fucking hypocrites. 
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| Originally posted by rizen where are all the christian radicals and the rest of the anti-gay marriage ppl who say it would degrade the constitution of marriage. why the fuck arent they speaking about britney and her super short marriage? thats a worse fuck you to marriage than two ppl who are in love. fucking hypocrites. |
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| Originally posted by rizen where are all the christian radicals and the rest of the anti-gay marriage ppl who say it would degrade the constitution of marriage. why the fuck arent they speaking about britney and her super short marriage? thats a worse fuck you to marriage than two ppl who are in love. fucking hypocrites. |
http://slate.msn.com/id/2093412/
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| Dean's Kentucky campaign begins poorly: Letters received by Dean after he signed Vermont's civil-unions bill: "I was really sorry to read where you have allowed the passage of a bill recognizing queers to marry," wrote someone from Kentucky, "who vowed never to vacation in Vermont again." "I have been a Democrat all my life, but now that the Democrats are turning into queers, I am switching to the Republican Party. I hope you and all your queer buddies rot in hell." Another said, "Dean Is a ****** Lover. All Homosexuals, Go to Vermont, Dean Loves You. All Normal People, Stay Away From Vermont. A State Full Of Perverts�Run By Perverts. Boycott Fag Run Vermont." On one fund-raising walk after the bill-signing, an elderly woman walked up to Dean and said, "You fucking, queer-loving son of a bitch." |
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| Originally posted by rizen http://slate.msn.com/id/2093412/ lol |
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Lights out: In one of Dean's first major decisions as governor, he sided with power companies in favor of a 25-year contract to purchase electricity from Quebec. Environment groups opposed the project because of Hydro-Quebec's damming of state rivers; human-rights groups worried about the fate of the Cree Indians, whose land would be flooded; and consumer groups worried whether the plan would even save Vermont money. The consumer groups, at least, turned out to be right: "In the late 1990s, Vermont's two biggest power companies nearly became insolvent as they struggled to pay what turned out to be high costs for Quebec power." Vermont consumers and businesses received "steep rate increases." Not-so-green Dean: As governor, Dean turned out to be pro-conservation but anti-regulation, a position that some environmentalists find hard to reconcile. The state bought and preserved more than 470,000 acres of wild land, but Dean's administration also gutted or ignored Vermont's environmental regulations in order to land new business development. Upon retirement, the executive officer of Vermont's Water Resources Board charged Dean's administration with underfunding the state's Agency of Natural Resources and with politicizing environmental science: "ANR has not been given the resources to adequately do its job and too often the scientifically sound recommendations by ANR technical staff are overruled in final permit decisions by political appointees." (Dean's budget chief admits in the book that some agencies, including the Department of Natural Resources, were underfunded: "I agree that they didn't have enough money to do what they were authorized to do.") In general, Dean showed a disdain for Vermont's legal and regulatory processes in favor of ad hoc deal-making and what he called "common sense" and "reason." Dean's critics say he abandoned a 20-year approach of appointing locally respected officials to environmental commissions. Instead, he "seems to have looked to people who wouldn't oppose his philosophy, who wouldn't demand tiresome scientific data and who wouldn't mind working for a governor who might inject himself in cases," writes Hamilton E. Davis, former managing editor of the Burlington Free Press. Some of Dean's defenders argue that he "never really understood the damage he was doing to the regulatory system." |
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| Originally posted by arctic Hell yes, give them the same rights as everyone else. btw, i'm talking about civil marriges here, I don't give a stuff about ones sanctioned by religion, they mean nothing to me. |
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| Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 lol they already have the same rights everyone else does. Did you not know that? Anyway, I disagree with homosexuality. The lifestyle is very hazardous to ones health. |
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| Originally posted by arctic How can you 'disagree' with it? Homosexuals don't choose to be gay, many wish they weren't due to the discrimination that they face every day. Wether they're born gay, or they're 'turned' gay by society (I don't believe this has been conclusivley established as of yet) makes no difference. |
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| Originally posted by Shakka I love it when people try to blame society for their own shortcomings. Take some responsibility. |
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| Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 Anyway, I disagree with homosexuality. The lifestyle is very hazardous to ones health. |
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| Originally posted by arctic They don't have the right to get married. Therefore they do not have the same rights as everyone else. |
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How can you 'disagree' with it? Homosexuals don't choose to be gay, many wish they weren't due to the discrimination that they face every day. Wether they're born gay, or they're 'turned' gay by society (I don't believe this has been conclusivley established as of yet) makes no difference. |
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| The fact is that when someone is gay, that's that, you can't change it. How can you disagree with something like that? |
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| Your point about it being hazardous to one's health is a bit hard to stomach as well. In what way is it any more dangerous than say, hetrosexuallity? If you're reffering to AIDS (Which I strongly suspect you are), then why not get up in arms about the way it is currently spreading in Africa & some parts of Asia? That's far more 'hazardous' than the levels in the gay population. Further to that, hetrosexuals are perfectly capable of contracting AIDS as well, it isn't exactly limited to gay people. If it isn't AIDS that you're reffering to, i'd be very interested to learn what to what it is that you are. |
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| Either way, after that whole 'Christianity isn't a religion' fiasco, it's rather hard to take anything you say seriously. |
Oh to add...... According to CCD statistics(I think it's CCD)
A gay man's average lifespan is only into his 40's.
Where as a straight man's average lifespan is into his 70's.
Food for thought here.
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| Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 They do have the same rights. They are humans just like the rest of us,They deserve no more rights than the rest of us. Capice? Easily,You aren't born gay. You choose to be that way. I'm against the lifestyle,It's not good for anyone. Simple, You can change being gay. There have been many that have come out of the lifestyle. They are glad they have too. Might want to hear them speak sometime,It would help you understand things better. You know nothing of pain in the stomach,Do not get me started on that subject.Alright? I really don't want to talk about it.. It's hazardous to your health. It's not just to your health,it's emotionally hazardous. I'm sure there are many here who disagree with me,and that's fine. But, at the moment I really don't care, I have way more important things that are happening right now,and if I don't concentrate on them, things might get worse. You know why it's spreading in Africa? They are so promiscuous. We're talking orgies homosexuality...the whole nine yards. That's why they have AID's spreading like they do. Deny it,or believe it.That's up to you. You know how hetrosexuals obtianed AID's? Bisexuals. It started in the homosexual lifestyle,then bisexuals passed it onto hetrosexuals. Believe what you will, But that's your choice and your problem. Not mine. I'm not pussyfooting around,are you? |
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| Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 Oh to add...... According to CCD statistics(I think it's CCD) A gay man's average lifespan is only into his 40's. Where as a straight man's average lifespan is into his 70's. Food for thought here. |
WhoaNellie1487: I delcare you to be an idoit.
"homosexual orgies". Yah that's what's causing all the aids in africa. You honestly have no clue do you? The AIDs crisis in africa is between hetrosexual people. Perhaps you'd do yourself a favour and read up? In some of the african countries the percentage of population with AIDS is ~40%. Based on 40% of the people in that country with AIDS, using your math the country would be composed 40% of homosexual males, with an average life span of less than 40 years?
You need to give your head a shake.
As far as saying that gays have the same rights as straight people, you shoot yourself in the foot everytime you type. If they don't have the right to be married then they don't have the same rights. END OF STORY.
I love how you're the authority on all things homosexual. You're an expert on what makes people gay too obviosly.
I'll tell you something, when I was 13yrs old I HATED blacks, I HATED ASIANS, I HATED GAYS, I mean hated them with all my being. Then my world changed. I met black people, they became my friends. I met asian people, they became my frinds... gasp, I even met homosexuals and they became my friends. Looking back on it I think I was so scared of what I didn't know. Look at them, they're not the same as me, they must be evil if they're not the same as me. Wow was I ever wrong.
I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
Martin Luther King Jr.
"but by the content of their character" that line sums it all up. You are one afraid little boy. I'm sorry for you, one day you'll look back like I do now and shake your head at how foolish you once were.
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King You must be the most brainwashed person ive seen on these boards. Are you trying to be sarcastically stupid? If you arent, its Ok, you are 17...i understand your highschool mentality. |
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| Originally posted by failsafe WhoaNellie1487: I delcare you to be an idoit. "homosexual orgies". Yah that's what's causing all the aids in africa. You honestly have no clue do you? The AIDs crisis in africa is between hetrosexual people. Perhaps you'd do yourself a favour and read up? In some of the african countries the percentage of population with AIDS is ~40%. Based on 40% of the people in that country with AIDS, using your math the country would be composed 40% of homosexual males, with an average life span of less than 40 years? You need to give your head a shake. As far as saying that gays have the same rights as straight people, you shoot yourself in the foot everytime you type. If they don't have the right to be married then they don't have the same rights. END OF STORY. I love how you're the authority on all things homosexual. You're an expert on what makes people gay too obviosly. I'll tell you something, when I was 13yrs old I HATED blacks, I HATED ASIANS, I HATED GAYS, I mean hated them with all my being. Then my world changed. I met black people, they became my friends. I met asian people, they became my frinds... gasp, I even met homosexuals and they became my friends. Looking back on it I think I was so scared of what I didn't know. Look at them, they're not the same as me, they must be evil if they're not the same as me. Wow was I ever wrong. I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. Martin Luther King Jr. "but by the content of their character" that line sums it all up. You are one afraid little boy. I'm sorry for you, one day you'll look back like I do now and shake your head at how foolish you once were. |
The point is that you are segregating a group of people based on their sexual orientation, and criticising the way they live but have yet given a legitamte explanation as to why you feel this way...
That is why we think you are an ignorant idiot.
Nellie: You claim not to be a kid yet you say very childish things like "I've talked to my parents". HAHAH man that cracked me up.
If you think that homosexuals are "people too", you're correct. Why deny a fellow man or woman the right to marry a member of the same sex if they're your equal? Don't give me this "marriage is sacred" crap either. Hell almost 50% of marriages end in divorce, so it's not like all these hetrosexual people are holding it sacred.
If I were to put an honest guess down, I'd say you were 14-15yrs old. You have a talk with your parents about my post, and you can respond with what they think.
Tell you mom I said "Hi" *wink*
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| Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487 I do have a clue, I've read my news. Have you read yours? You really have to do your research,I've done mine. |
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