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sorry, that set is poison enough already 
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| Originally posted by escee sorry, that set is poison enough already |
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thats a shame. i dont swing the msn way, icq forever!
anyway, back on topic. Tiesto sucks.
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| Originally posted by escee thats a shame. i dont swing the msn way, icq forever! anyway, back on topic. Tiesto sucks. |
i agree esceemo.. this is 70% the reason why i'm not attending testical's new years eve performance this year. imo armin is without a shadow of a doubt holland's greatest export at this point in time.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Tiesto is one event away from being dead to me.
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| Originally posted by OzTi�sto DJ'ing is not just about mixing... Your mixing could put Digweed to shame, but if the songs are shit then it's still going to sounds like 2 shit tracks being mixed together and no-one will give a shit. How many times have you seen people say that the best DJ's read the crowds? I guarantee that 99% of punters would prefer a set of tracks that they love with a few hiccups to a set of boring tracks mixed seamlessly. |
I think its unfair to judge a DJ from a recorded set. After you see him over the new years, it will be interesting to see if you have the same opinions.
Personally im loving the tiesto of late, maybe its because i have a diverse taste in music, i love prog and trance but i also like my techno and tiesto covers all of these.
The techno he is playing isnt even real techno, you would rarely find the tracks he plays in a techno set, he plays tech trance. I think its great how he is playing out of the norm, he is trying something new mixing up a few genres. It might not sound the best in a 1 hour set. But if you were there live i can guarentee the room would be going off.
I lost interest in tiesto end of last year early this year but then i saw him 3 times in Europe and i was just amazed at the enegry he created in the room, it was then i realise why he was voted number 1 and i think he deserves it. He truly knows how to read a crowd and i think that is the most important thing as a DJ.
I mean its only a small minority of us who can pick up the technical aspects of a set most people who go to these events dont have a clue about whats going on, they just know the tracks they like and go a long to have a good time and tiesto dishes out this in the best possible way.
Saying PVD is spot on every set is not true, i dont like his mixing style at all and he fucks up a lot of his mixes also. DJs are only human and its pretty easy to stuff up a mix, most of them wouldnt be noticable when your out but so easy to pick up when recorded.
Escee this is your opinion and thats cool, looks like this thread has gone a bit nasty tho 
Oh and one more thing, this thread reminds me of one of J00Fs (this man rocks hard ) colums where he comented on recorded sets can be a good thing in that people listen to their fav DJs were ever they are in the world, but also a bad thing cause people change opinions on a DJ over the recorded set when really it could be totally different live.
Cheers
muli
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| Originally posted by muli Escee this is your opinion and thats cool, looks like this thread has gone a bit nasty tho |
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| Originally posted by Beemer ewww icq sucks way more than Tiesto will EVER suck!! hmmm what u gonna do for me if i turn my icq on for u? |
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| Originally posted by escee not bash tiesto (much). Muli, thats my complaint, the stuff he is playing is half assed techno mixed like trance. I dont like it at all, and this thread has only turned nasty if youre an english tiesto fanboy |
can i pleaseeeeeeeee ask why you people talk shit and say a DJ reads a crowd? DJ's play what they personally like, and punters who like what the DJ's like (ie they can find out what a DJ likes by the trend he usually plays or the music he produces) all enjoy the atmosphere too.. taking nothing away from it.. since i know that armin likes trance, produces trance, and plays trance im going to go watch him.. now im gonna tell you that if 100% of qbh who rocked up to see armin were dressed in gangster clothing holding up pistols in the air, armin wouldnt start playing gangster rap.. read a crowd? MY ASS!
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| Originally posted by DaveBegic can i pleaseeeeeeeee ask why you people talk shit and say a DJ reads a crowd? DJ's play what they personally like, and punters who like what the DJ's like (ie they can find out what a DJ likes by the trend he usually plays or the music he produces) all enjoy the atmosphere too.. taking nothing away from it.. since i know that armin likes trance, produces trance, and plays trance im going to go watch him.. now im gonna tell you that if 100% of qbh who rocked up to see armin were dressed in gangster clothing holding up pistols in the air, armin wouldnt start playing gangster rap.. read a crowd? MY ASS! |
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| Originally posted by DaveBegic can i pleaseeeeeeeee ask why you people talk shit and say a DJ reads a crowd? DJ's play what they personally like, and punters who like what the DJ's like (ie they can find out what a DJ likes by the trend he usually plays or the music he produces) all enjoy the atmosphere too.. taking nothing away from it.. since i know that armin likes trance, produces trance, and plays trance im going to go watch him.. now im gonna tell you that if 100% of qbh who rocked up to see armin were dressed in gangster clothing holding up pistols in the air, armin wouldnt start playing gangster rap.. read a crowd? MY ASS! |
speaking of Innercity sets....
HOW GOODS PICOTTO!!! 
Farkin awesome set, cant wait to see the man at Two Tribes 
Tiesto does sound different from years ago, but I'm not losing faith in him just yet.
I bought my tickets, so I hope he plays some nice melodic stuff this Wednesday.
I'm sure I won't be the only one who'll be disappointed if he doesn't.
If he does disappoint, I hope the colourful eye candy in the sky will make up for the night. I've missed the last 4 New year's eve fireworks, because I've always been partying indoors.
Hmmm maybe I should just ingest enough chemicals so that I won't be too concerned about what's coming out of the speakers. The eye candy in the sky will look more captivating too. I think a lot of people will be thinking that way on the night!
muli picotto owns.
DaveBegic.....you are basically saying that most of the deejays booked that people pay their hard-earned cash to see could be replaced by a jukebox to save thousands upon thousands of dollars?
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| Originally posted by Beemer hehehe sorry to dissapoint u, but sasha ain't coming for TT anymore....he's been replaced by lucien foort gimme lucien any day - sasha gives me the shits how he gets up there and acts like he's god...imho, he ain't all that.....and he couldn't create an atmosphere like tiesto if he tried |
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| and he couldn't create an atmosphere like tiesto if he tried |
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or alternatively: 
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| Originally posted by pimp When you have listened to these then I will take your opinion seriously |
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| Originally posted by escee not bash tiesto (much). Muli, thats my complaint, the stuff he is playing is half assed techno mixed like trance. I dont like it at all, and this thread has only turned nasty if youre an english tiesto fanboy |
Tiesto answered this exact question on the interview on his site.
It was something like this
"why do we not hear the sounds of 98/99 etc..?"
"Well back then i was playing and part of the trance genre which was euro trance, shasha, oakey etc.. were playing trance but a different style of trance. They moved on from trance and things have changed since then, euro trance isnt around as much. Now i play trance not just euro trance, trance is such a broad genre and i try to incorporate trance as whole into one set hence why i play differently."
OK so thats not word for word, far from it, but it was something like that lol.
its all down to personal taste, and people need to respect that and not get so defensive. Some may like tiestos new style, some might not. But i dont think anyone on here is going to be swung by someone elses opinion, as we all seem to have very strong opinions on the topic.
I agree with escee, i didnt like his inercity set, but he has done a lot of sets this year that I have loved. So im gonna be at NYD front and center (and i have just paid for a tiesto tshirt, so i need somewhere to wear it)
The funny thing is, that most of the people that live in aus that have posted an opinion on here, whether they like his 'new style' or not, will all be at his gig no matter what!
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| Originally posted by Beemer hmm, imho, that's the dumbest post in this thread so far......so dumb that i cbf even addressing it........ |
all i know is that in the entire 6 years ive played music, the only time i really had to read any crowd was playing at someones birthday party because you're going from such a different range in styles to cater for such a different range of audience.. i would have thought that people who went to raves went for a particular thing - cause they love the style that a certain dj plays?
i pay good money to go and see tiesto and armin play a style of music which i love.. armin had it best when someone recently asked him in an interview about reading the crowd, something about do you change your sets to suit a certain crowd and he said 'people are coming to see me, so i assume they wanna hear an arminish sound' or something along those lines..
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| Originally posted by DaveBegic all i know is that in the entire 6 years ive played music, the only time i really had to read any crowd was playing at someones birthday party because you're going from such a different range in styles to cater for such a different range of audience.. i would have thought that people who went to raves went for a particular thing - cause they love the style that a certain dj plays? i pay good money to go and see tiesto and armin play a style of music which i love.. armin had it best when someone recently asked him in an interview about reading the crowd, something about do you change your sets to suit a certain crowd and he said 'people are coming to see me, so i assume they wanna hear an arminish sound' or something along those lines.. |
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| Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! sticks & stones... given up trying to reason with u i am thinking of writing in to Dj mag though, maybe they can set up a new reviews section for you... "half assed techno" so that the column currently used for "trance" can only contain your pure reflection of the very varied genre. heck, they could even rename that "We Love Armin" by Escee" section??? |
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