How do you get this massive arp sound?

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Posted by trancenrg69 on Feb-02-2004 00:00:

I agree with some of your points, but, the orginal sounds much better than anything reason can make, including that sample. There is no substitute for hardware. It sounds better than any vst currently available. I've heard both vsti and hardware synths like the jp, virus, nordlead, supernova, etc.. and these synths have state of the art sound. Wide, vivid, warm, creamy, makes your body shiver when you listen to these mighty synths.

Now I agree with you that you can have the best synths in the world but if your productions suck, the tune will suck. And not all sound is the same, I'm fed up with these dudes using crap ass vsts trying to emulate hardware like a jp supersaw or the latest virus mod for the zeta . Sure you can make nice pads or leads with vsts as state and others have shown, but hardware sounds different and its easily recognizable in a track.

Vsti is the poor mans substitute for hardware. In a few months i'll be switching to hardware and ill post a little comparision of my productions before and after hardware. You'll be surprised.

Cheers

Posted by alanzo on Feb-02-2004 02:34:

yay! mine rulez - do I win the prize? It's amazing what you can do with FX...

download here

Posted by DinaireFan1 on Feb-02-2004 03:24:

Thanks for the comments trancenergy69. I agree, even though I have no experience in comparing hardware vs soft-synths. Nevertheless, it just makes sense - hardware designed to do one thing should do it better than a PC spitting out audio through a sound card.

But I'm sure many will disagree.

Now here's a real subjective question - which hardware are you currently liking? I'm really impressed with the ION, since I come from a "real" analog background. But of course everyone seems to be stuck on the Virus. What's your opinion?

Thanks!

Posted by alanzo on Feb-02-2004 22:37:

quote:
yay! mine rulez - do I win the prize? It's amazing what you can do with FX...

I accidentaly deleted it off of my server and don't feel like making it again.. oh well.. it was good while it lasted

Posted by kooma on Feb-02-2004 23:34:

quote:
Originally posted by kooma
Did this in Reason
ReasonPulse

IMPROVED (midi and ...)

Posted by Dave_Abr on Feb-04-2004 14:53:

here tow of my samples cover sounds

the first made with pro & fm-7 and automated:
ftp://guest:[email protected]_DAVE_Ab.mp3

the second:
ftp://guest:[email protected]_2_dave_ab.mp3

btw .. im sorry i didn't asked for premission first

Posted by danielrong on Feb-04-2004 16:22:

dave_abr:

edit them links to:

ftp://guest:[email protected]_DAVE_Ab.mp3
ftp://guest:[email protected]_2_dave_ab.mp3
they are mp3 files, not folders

nice sounds btw.

Posted by Mossy on Feb-04-2004 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by trancenrg69
I'm fed up with these dudes using crap ass vsts trying to emulate hardware like a jp supersaw or the latest virus mod for the zeta .

I havent had any experience with hardware, sadly, but of the few VSTis I have played with - z3ta, and its virus mod are two of the best. I have heard the virus sample mp3s on virus.info, and yeah they are awesome, but the VSTis are the closest i will be to the real deal for a very long time!

Anyway, I've heard stuff you have done on virtual instruments and its awesome! Just think your comment above was very harsh on what is an excellent mod!

Posted by hey cheggy on Feb-04-2004 17:26:

Just to let everyone here know, that software isn't that far behind hardware. I own a virus and I often turn to softies for tracks. Hardware can make shite sounds too you know. They can take a bit of learning to understand how to get the right sound out of them, escpecially in the virus. Its not like three saw waves will sound better than three saw waves in pro-53. Its once you start putting in LFOs and PWM and Delay and oscillation modulation and FM and ring mod and unison/unison detune and Sub-oscillators that you start getting sounds that are exceptionally better than software.

With the right effects though, softies can put up one hell of a fight. There are plenty of tracks out there that are made on software and you wouldn't even know unless you were told.

IN RELATION TO THIS THREAD, guys, heaps of you are using the midi file supplied. Just to let you know, it needs to be moved back like 1/8th note or something to make it fit in with the kick properly. Some of you have got it wrong, if you care that is. Haven't listened to all of them

Posted by Dave_Abr on Feb-04-2004 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by danielrong
dave_abr:

edit them links to:

they are mp3 files, not folders

i didn't see it when i copy & paste it
but thanks for the change anyway

nice sounds btw. [/QUOTE]
thanks on the comment

Posted by trancenrg69 on Feb-04-2004 21:02:

Hey Mossy, yes maybe I was harsh, but there is no substitute for hardware. It just sounds better. If you could download a virus c, waldorf q, or a nordlead3 on some warez site, nobody would be using software. I don't take software seriously but that's my opinion. It's just to pratice until i buy my hardware. I'm glad yo enjoyed my music, but that's peanuts to what I plan to make with my new studio cheers

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