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Originally posted by DigiNut Anyway... you're a geek. And there's nothing wrong with being a geek, but you have to learn how to be non-geeky when it's required of you. Learn to small talk, get some hobbies, leave the CD player at home and make eye contact with the people you see...

well said.

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Originally posted by ali92 About the CD player, I only have it because I'm addicted to electronica to the extreme and can't stand walking around or waiting for a bus in silence for hours on end with nothing to do or hear or no-one to speak to or whatever. I don't have many friends to visit, etc. Everyone I know's busy with their life, etc. One or two of my friends have actually stopped talking to me because they found a girl-friend and they find me an uninteresting person to be around, unless they have questions for me (which they almost never do). And I only go anywhere when I have a purpose or need to be somewhere for something. I don't think I've went anywhere for leisure within the past 3 years! Everywhere I went, it was for a purpose... Yeah, I have hobbies but, they all have to do with computers & music (well, downloading it)!

sorry to break it to you, but if you really want to find a girl, then your gonna have to change almost everything (at least it seems that way, telling from your posts). nothing wrong with listening to a cd player when theres no one to talk to, but if you do plan on socializing (which youre eventually going to do, if you want to find that girl), then i suggest you dont have your headphones on you when someone may be considering talking to you.

and go out for your lesuire once in a while!

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Originally posted by ali92 But, then again, isn't it rude to just talk to everyone who falls into that category one after another, when you are showing signs that you are (perhaps desperately) looking for a g-f? I've often gotten told this exact sentence: "Get a life..."

there are 2 huge hints in there. If you thinking hitting on chicks is rude, youre gonna have issues, and the Get alife thing... I havent heard that since middle school. Because thats when I CUT OFF MY EARS MY EARS THEYRE BLEEEEEDING

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Originally posted by ali92 Plus, I tend to act very literal as well. If someone told me to speak to every girl you think looks nice and you are interested in that you believe is around your age, I probably would do it if I was fearless and had no paranoia. But, then again, isn't it rude to just talk to everyone who falls into that category one after another, when you are showing signs that you are (perhaps desperately) looking for a g-f? I've often gotten told this exact sentence: "Get a life..."

you sound a lot like me, only I'm 27, and never had a gf. I only talk if I have something to say, etc. I've read all the dating advice on the net I could find from Ross Jeffries Speed Seduction, David DeAngelo's Cocky & Funny routines, Mike Pilinski's Male Dominance's ebooks, Doc Love's the System and so on... Never knew they're was dating advice for men, cause lots of us need it bad. Women have it easy, cause they got dozens of magazines.

Then I realized it's all silly. Having a girlfriend, like having lots of money doesn't necessarily make you happy. (Money doesn't buy happiness et al) I know people in miserable marriages cause they bought the societal lie. Just go out and make your life's goal "the pursuit of happiness" I actually find hanging out with people 1 on 1 very boring for the most part, so I just dont do it. I would much rather spend hours listening to music or playing video games. Having a gf is one area of life where people need to seriously start saying "dont do it, just because everyone else is"

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Originally posted by whiskers lol, you can't be serious, can you?

Well, if he's from the US and is seeking a girl from Tokyo area, I think it's unlikely he'll stumble upon her in a local bar, you know. Besides, you can find some quite nice and interesting girls on the internet. I know it sounds kinda lame, but some of them are really ok persons.

Now, ali, I don't know about Trillian, but icq has the "search people by keyword" option, and when I typed in "female trance Japan" I got like 25 hits. Btw, I knew most of the things you mentioned, but you got one wrong. The cicrcumference of the earth is 40000km, not the area The early kilometer was defined as 1/40000 of the circumference of earth.

But really, as all the people said here, you have to change your attitude if you want to get girls.

Oh, and one more thing, you were all wrong about the sunset, but I'm too lazy to elaborate on it now

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Originally posted by Verona^My you sound a lot like me, only I'm 27, and never had a gf. I only talk if I have something to say, etc. I've read all the dating advice on the net I could find from Ross Jeffries Speed Seduction, David DeAngelo's Cocky & Funny routines, Mike Pilinski's Male Dominance's ebooks, Doc Love's the System and so on... Never knew they're was dating advice for men, cause lots of us need it bad. Women have it easy, cause they got dozens of magazines. Then I realized it's all silly. Having a girlfriend, like having lots of money doesn't necessarily make you happy. (Money doesn't buy happiness et al) I know people in miserable marriages cause they bought the societal lie. Just go out and make your life's goal "the pursuit of happiness" I actually find hanging out with people 1 on 1 very boring for the most part, so I just dont do it. I would much rather spend hours listening to music or playing video games. Having a gf is one area of life where people need to seriously start saying "dont do it, just because everyone else is"

Hmm, never had a g/f and live in Rochester... I don't blame you, the girls there are pretty crazy! My ex was from Victor/Farmington and was a whacko!...

Though to Ali - I've honestly found more girls interested in video games than trance. Although I've found a few girls who are interested in trance as well... And even fewer who are interested in both. Usually the kinds of girls who are into this kinda stuff aren't very noticeable and don't really stand out, you have to do a bit of digging. They're out there.. plus you can always try to get girls interested in your interests. Though that doesn't usually work well. (Then again, I try to get the girls listening to Sasha and Tiesto CDs before getting them to listen to Lasgo and DJ Sammy, so I'm probably at fault for that)

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Originally posted by ali92 ...They aren't looking for "Did you know...?" sentences almost hourly or daily... I've never met a girl who wanted to bother with me for more than about 25 contiguous days... Here's what I mean: Did you know that Japan's sinking by 3 cm per year? Did you know that the total area of the earth is about 40'000 km? Did you know that a CD spins at about 500 RPM at the beginning but, 200 RPM near the end when playing in a regular CD player? Did you know that the CD's original maximum length of 74 minutes was based off of Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony No. 9? Did you know that Vatican City is the smallest nation in the world? Did you know that Japan has about half of the US total population in a land area less than the size of California? Did you know that the tropical year is exactly 365.24219 days long and getting longer, as of 2000-01-01? Did you know that the sun rises in the east & sets in the west only TWICE per year? Did you know that our athmosphere is about 8'000 km thick? Did you know our land on this planet is made up of about fifteen tectonic plate, like a jigsaw puzzle? When an earthquake occurs, it's two plates rubbing against each other. Did you know that there are 88 visable constellations in the night sky? Did you know that the Middle East's week works slightly different?: They work from Saturday to Thursday at noon and am off from noon Thursdays to Saturday. Our Monday is already their 3rd workday.

Yes, that would irritate just about anyone, guy or girl. No offense, but I'm an electrical engineer, I'm very well used to highly technical topics of conversation, and that "did you know" thing would even irritate me.

What you're basically saying is that you're incapable of carrying on a conversation. That is not good, and even though you've taken the first step and accepted this about yourself, you need to take the next step and change it. You need to get out there, meet people, TRY to just chit chat, listen to other people and the things they talk about... even rent some of those movies starring stupid people and listen to that.

To put it simply, it sounds like you can't talk about anything personal - either yourself or the person you're with - and unfortunately for you, almost every friendship or romance hinges on that kind of talking.

Good luck.

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Originally posted by ali92 You don't just "become gay". I'm not gay. The problem is that I don't have much in common with the majority of females. I have much of nothing to speak to them about... Here's what I mean: Did you know that Japan's sinking by 3 cm per year? Did you know that the total area of the earth is about 40'000 km? Did you know that a CD spins at about 500 RPM at the beginning...

Have you asked Diginut to design you a robot with your specification? I can spruce it up with some lipstick and a mop. What color hair are you in to?

*grabs dye kit and mop.*

Thinks to myself this is going to be one hot little robot. Man I'd love to grease her gears...

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Originally posted by igottaknow Have you asked Diginut to design you a robot with your specification? I can spruce it up with some lipstick and a mop. What color hair are you in to? *grabs dye kit and mop.* Thinks to myself this is going to be one hot little robot. Man I'd love to grease her gears...

But the problem is, the robot must be from Japan. Say, ali, will it be ok if it's made just from japanese parts? Otherwise we'll have to steal aibo.

I couldn't be arsed to read through this whole thread as the first part is absolutely ridiculous. The only advice I can offer is that you might wantt to look into dating a robot.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 But the problem is, the robot must be from Japan. Say, ali, will it be ok if it's made just from japanese parts? Otherwise we'll have to steal aibo.

ROTFLMAO, how could i be so stupid?

*rips up robot blueprint*

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Originally posted by ali92 Here's what I mean: Did you know that Japan's sinking by 3 cm per year? Did you know that the total area of the earth is about 40'000 km? Did you know that a CD spins at about 500 RPM at the beginning but, 200 RPM near the end when playing in a regular CD player? Did you know that the CD's original maximum length of 74 minutes was based off of Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony No. 9? Did you know that Vatican City is the smallest nation in the world? Did you know that Japan has about half of the US total population in a land area less than the size of California? Did you know that the tropical year is exactly 365.24219 days long and getting longer, as of 2000-01-01? Did you know that the sun rises in the east & sets in the west only TWICE per year? Did you know that our athmosphere is about 8'000 km thick? Did you know our land on this planet is made up of about fifteen tectonic plate, like a jigsaw puzzle? When an earthquake occurs, it's two plates rubbing against each other. Did you know that there are 88 visable constellations in the night sky? Did you know that the Middle East's week works slightly different?: They work from Saturday to Thursday at noon and am off from noon Thursdays to Saturday. Our Monday is already their 3rd workday.

I know most of this stuff, but I don't expect my girlfriend to know this, nor do I actually talk to her about this...

It's just stuff that I know.

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Originally posted by igottaknow ROTFLMAO, how could i be so stupid? *rips up robot blueprint*

Don't worry dude, I can outsource it to a Japanese company and have it manufactured there. It's cheaper that way anyway.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Don't worry dude, I can outsource it to a Japanese company and have it manufactured there. It's cheaper that way anyway.

digi saves the day! Oh don't forget to request installation of a large pointless facts database.

Disclaimer:

I wasn't thinking (at all) when I wrote those things about the sunstet People, sparktrons and carrotonine don't exist (do they!?), I was joking


lol at the idea of stealing Aibo

By the way, Ali, this thread is turning into a bunch of random jokes, it's your chance to try.





Just do it

no offense, maybe you need therapy?

i was thinking of getting some for myself, maybe shipped from japan?

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Originally posted by Delay Llama Disclaimer: I wasn't thinking (at all) when I wrote those things about the sunstet People, sparktrons and carrotonine don't exist (do they!?)

They most certainly don't

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 [...]you were all wrong about the sunset, but I'm too lazy to elaborate on it now

Well read about it in www.krysstal.com ... It's somewhere on that mega-site...

hey, don't tell me i was wrong about the sunset, i didn't spend a whole semester in astronomy for nothing did i? that's the only thing i can remember from that class, don't you fuckin dare take that away from me!

Hehe, well if you really want to bother about the sunset, here it goes:

Miraculously, red/blue shift phenomenon has nothing to do with the reddish sky color during sunrise/sunset. If that was the only effect that caused the color shift of the sky then nobody would notice it at all. The effect is clearly visible only at near-light speeds, while the earth surface is rotating only at about 462.8m/s.

Now, during daytime, as sunlight passes through the atmosphere, the blue and violet light gets dispersed throughout the sky, while the longer wavelenght light passess through. That's why the sun looks yellow from earth, while it's kinda white-ish from space. Now, when it comes to sunrise/sunset, the sun is striking the earth at an angle, and the amount of atmosphere through which sunlight has to pass increases. That causes the light of lower frequencies (yellow and red to some extent) to become dissipated as well. The color of the sky becomes more yellowish, and the sun becomes reddish, as red is the only component of light that is still largely unaffected by the atmosphere.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Hehe, well if you really want to bother about the sunset, here it goes: Miraculously, red/blue shift phenomenon has nothing to do with the reddish sky color during sunrise/sunset. If that was the only effect that caused the color shift of the sky then nobody would notice it at all. The effect is clearly visible only at near-light speeds, while the earth surface is rotating only at about 462.8m/s. Now, during daytime, as sunlight passes through the atmosphere, the blue and violet light gets dispersed throughout the sky, while the longer wavelenght light passess through. That's why the sun looks yellow from earth, while it's kinda white-ish from space. Now, when it comes to sunrise/sunset, the sun is striking the earth at an angle, and the amount of atmosphere through which sunlight has to pass increases. That causes the light of lower frequencies (yellow and red to some extent) to become dissipated as well. The color of the sky becomes more yellowish, and the sun becomes reddish, as red is the only component of light that is still largely unaffected by the atmosphere.

REFRACTION!


hehe, just like i said, you can forget the whole blueshift / redshift thing then

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Originally posted by whiskers hey, don't tell me i was wrong about the sunset, i didn't spend a whole semester in astronomy for nothing did i? that's the only thing i can remember from that class, don't you fuckin dare take that away from me!

LOL!

Re: Another romance-related question here (maybe there should be a relationship forum?)

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Originally posted by ali92 Does anyone on here happen to know the likelihood of me finding a girl-friend (aged 16-20 years) who's really into Electronica (all-encompassing but, mainly Trance);

-check, but she's 23 and more into d&b but listens to trance too

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[very technically-inclined; fluent or at least intermediate in English; well educated

-check, definitely intelligent, she just speaks with choice words

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[interested in world cultures, differences, etc. that lives in Japan (preferrably the Tokyo area)

-check, does anime watching and videogaming count as a Japanese "
thing?"

Remember the chick from my "geeky girl" post? Oh yeah, you better get in line cause I'm seeing her tomorrow. Booyah! They are out there, just takes some time.

Re: Re: Another romance-related question here (maybe there should be a relationship forum?)

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Originally posted by AnonymousRacer They are out there, just takes some time.

Yes, I know they are definitely out there but, time seems to be my greatest enemy. I don't want to go through many (read: over 10-15) relationships (and not to mention years) without finding that "ideal partner". I'd definitely feel alone, hopeless, and depressed is everyone I knew was in a very secessful relationship and stopped bothering with me solely because I was without a partner by the time I was in, say my late 20s. I mean, the majority of couples just seem to feel awkward hanging with a single person around their age. Couples on here, wouldn't you?

I say this because after a certain time (or series of events), friends usually seem to bother with each other a whole lot less. I tend to behave differently: If I was your friend, even if I was married, I would NEVER forget you or stop conversing, visiting, or helping you in times of need.

Ok, some things got changed around from the original post... Here goes:

Does anyone on here happen to know the likelihood of me finding a girl-friend (aged 16-20 years) who's really into Electronica (all-encompassing but, mainly Trance); interested in learning about technology, culture, and global travel; fluent or at least intermediate in English; well educated (I don't care if it was in college, a degree doesn't tell much (this is no lie either). It's actual knowledge that really counts); and interested in world cultures, differences, etc. that lives in either Japan (preferrably the Tokyo, or any major urban area) or the north-eastern USA? I say all of this because:

A. Even though I like some other genres of music to a small degree, there's nothing like Electronica and the sweet sounds of those sythesisers & sequencers.

B. My life practically has to do with computers. I'm on it all the time when I'm home and I'm very anal about having files & folders sort correctly and neatly into a catalogue-like way without any catalogueing software (it's possible to do this easily too: D:\Audio\Music\Albums\Artist Name, The\Year\Album Name, The\CD ###\(files)).

C. I know no other languages besides English and even though I plan to learn Japanese, I'd never be able to speak it the way I speak English. Two people can never fully understand each other (mainly on a higher level) if they both don't know the language they're speaking very well. Plus, I have trouble breaking certain terms down for people who don't have much of an idea at all of what's being spoken about.

D. I don't plan to live in any one place for long. I'd like to be always travelling because I enjoy the different (and unique) ways of living & culture backgrounds in different areas. This can't be said about everyone, though. Some people want to settle in one place or stay where they are right now. These type of people won't be best for me as conflicts can occur, as I want to already leave the US come 2005 and go to different countries often after that (I'll probably never [want to] stay in any one place for longer than two years or so).

E. I plan to be producing Electronica in the future so, Electronic music & computers will be a very important aspect of my life. It makes sense that a potential romantic partner for me would appreciate this type of thing, even though they don't have to directly get involved with production with it, as it is a tough job. I'd want to take them with me if I were to be travelling all over. In other words, I don't want to be alone.

Please get back to me on this (hopefully fixed up?) issue...

Some things I'd like to add after seeing all of your posts include:

- I don't go out much for leisure because I really don't know where to go most of the time. Being alone going to the following places is pretty boring, if you ask me...

--Clubs
A. No-one plays Trance (or anything even remotely similar to it) around here.

B. Plus, even if anywhere did, there's almost always some kind of violent activity that goes on at or around the majority of clubs in our area. Also, DUI drivers are responsible for a number of accidental deaths many times out of the year. That's nothing to take lightly at all.

C. Cost is high for an event you may or may not like at all. Afterwards, you may wonder if it was worth it at all...

--Theatre
A. Well, I get to see most movies 4 months after they come out anyway, so why bother wasting 20+ USD just to see one at a theatre? Also, no-one I know goes to theatres anyway.

--Other cities/places, for leisure
A. I know no-one to see in these other cities/places.
B. No-one I know has the free time to go with me to these places, even if I did know people there...

-Some people on here say that you have to take chances to get to know someone. Well, I don't want to be in a relationship for months just to get to know someone if it isn't going to work out in the long-run. In other words, I don't want to waste time, as time's very precious, if my goal is not just a friendship but, something more. I want to get to know someone extremely well quickly so I'd know if the person's right for me. I tend to let others know how I am right off the bat, or soon afterwards so, that isn't a problem on my side. I want to know someone's ultimate goals in the beginning (I let them know right away), as this'll probably factor into the relationship to a certain degree, etc.

-Someone on here said I can't talk about anything personal. I can but, I have not much to speak ABOUT. That's what it is. The only things I have opinions on are things most people just don't think about (or want to talk about) (I don't want to go through what it is again, anyone who has spoken to me on IM before KNOWS what I'm talking about), and vice-versa. Someone also said "listen to other people and the things they talk about..." - I have no way of striking up a conversation regarding what the majority of my generation (from what I've heard in the past) speaks about (sometimes clothing, current hit movies, Rap/R&B/Hip-hop, Rock/Pop, school-related (is all I have to say about it is just tens of reccomendations of CHANGE of the whole US curriculum, nothing to do with the task-at-hand), sporting (I don't even watch or play those; so I don't "follow" them), cars (I don't borther with those) and more) so, that's at a cul-de-sac.

-In response to

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Having a girlfriend, like having lots of money doesn't necessarily make you happy. (Money doesn't buy happiness et al) I know people in miserable marriages cause they bought the societal lie. Just go out and make your life's goal "the pursuit of happiness" I actually find hanging out with people 1 on 1 very boring for the most part, so I just dont do it. I would much rather spend hours listening to music or playing video games. Having a gf is one area of life where people need to seriously start saying "dont do it, just because everyone else is"

- I don't care about money. I'm WELL AWARE that money doesn't buy happiness. Everyone tells me about working & making money will fix my life, etc. It will not because I don't care about having a huge income if I'm not going to share it, and my experiences with someone. I believe in shareing. That's why when someone comes over my house, they get a huge amount of CDs (of material they usually like) from me. Because I want to share my "high" (or not-so-high?) amount of music and knowledge with all. I don't want a g-f JUST because someone else I know has one. It may sound that way but, it's because my interests, current, past, and future lifestyle is extremely different from what the majority of people's is. When's the last time you heard of someone who is desperate for travelling the world (well, at least 6 out of the 7 continents and over 50 countries) and making huge DJ set records (100-hour+) and actually did it at a young (under 24 or so) age? I don't feel insecure about travelling internationally at a young age but, a vast majority of people seem to. They feel that leaving their homeland is for when they get older and not right away. I too, know people (in my own family and others!) who are or were once (or more than once) in miserable marriages (my parents, both uncles & aunts, all friends of my parents). The problem is the majority of people who get married jump straight int it without letting a considerable amount of time pass in their relationship, as well as get opinions about all of life. These couples don't test theirselves in different environments, etc. to see how well they get along. I don't want similar to happen.

That's why I wrote the long passages above this one. Because I believe that everyone should be clear & detailed about things. I don't believe in double standards. I believe in being fair. I don't believe in domination, etc. I only believe in what's right, logical, just, fair, and understandable. I believ in treating others how I want to be treated. "Take care of it and it'll take care of you" is something my uncle Phillip always said about cars. This applies to many things in life, as well. Something else he said was "Look before you leap". This applies just about everywhere too. I tend to over-apply this slogan, though, behaving overly-cautious.

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Although I've found a few girls who are interested in trance as well...

- How FEW is this? A number or percentage here?

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Usually the kinds of girls who are into this kinda stuff aren't very noticeable and don't really stand out, you have to do a bit of digging.

- What do you mean here? What type of "digging" do you mean?

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you can always try to get girls interested in your interests

- This has never worked for me at all so, that's out.

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Why look for a woman who has male interests?

- Because there isn't much else I do with my life for leisure besides read about different subjects on the Web, play video games (mainly RPGs & futuristic racing (F-zero, Wipeout), though), and listen to Electronica. I don't have many other interests (well, politics but, again: Is all I'm interested in is the CHANGE of whole laws to making it more fair instead of money-hungry) besides those. I wouldn't have anything in common at all with girls if I didn't listen to club-style music (this applied to me 8 years ago). I have changed for the better over the years but, not enough to perform well in our society. That's why even though I've done well academically in school, I needed to be in very small classes in private school(s) in order to concentrate: Because I don't communicate on the social level that's expected of everyone in certain environments...

-Someone else said 'however, if you go out more, your chances of meeting someone with similar interests will drastically increase.'... Well, what I'd like to know is where (as in what types of places) is the best places to go when I do go out? I mean, the answer isn't just "anywhere". It has to be somewhere.

Where to go?
Anywhere outside of your house. Go to a shopping mall (where they have arcade and stuff), to the city park, to a parking lot... anywhere! It doesn't matter if you don't know anyone who goes to that certain place, you can always meet people there. Even at Wall Mart! Go make a city tour! Go to a bookstore or to the library! Click here so you can find an interesting place in your city!
Not willing to have a relationship with someone with whom you may break up in the future
Son, if we had the gift of foreseeing how things are gonna work out, we wouldn't be using discussion forums: we would know what would happen. And you won't be wasting your time, you'll be enjoying good company AND learning things you don't seem to know. Experiences are never useless.
Clubs/Raves that play music other than trance
You're saying you're in Philadelphia and there are no places where you can listen to electronic music? Go outside and look for them, there has got to be something. How can you find it? Talk to people in CD stores, someone has to be flyering for a party! And no need to be worried about violence: you can be attacked anywhere, even in your house.
Topics for conversation
I hardly ever talk about clothing, current hit movies, Rap/R&B/Hip-hop, Rock/Pop, school-related, sporting and cars, and I still manage to have a conversation. Try to ask find out what other people like and why they like these things. That's enough topic for a conversation. Ask "how was your day?" or "how is it where you live?". If you say this sort of conversation is boring to you, then you're really not willing to know other people and you're being extremely selfish. It can't be always about you and what you like.
How many girls who like trance have we met?
Do you really think we count!? I know girls who are really into electronic music, but I've got no idea of the percentage.
The Digging stuff
This means you have to look for them ie have a social life.

Also, no offense, but you should take whisker's advice... therapy would be nice. Most people actually need this sort of thing, it's a way to discover more about ourselves

By the way, unless you change your attitude, this is gonna be my last post in this thread. We're trying to help you but you're ALWAYS seeing problems because we left something out (like, if I tell you to go to a Park you're gonna ask us which park and what you need to do there). Stop being so mathematical and try to elaborate things for yourself, it's for your own good.

And you still need to make a joke

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