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Posted by blazed it on Mar-02-2004 05:07:

the m5 would eat the benz for breakfast.


Posted by Trancer-X on Mar-02-2004 08:36:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cubano
about to do the same thing to my M3...mmm..mm..can't wait to test it out on the highway

Got myself a V1 too so I won't get tickets


Don't cheese around with expensive but unsubstantial horsepower gains. Active Autowerke's Stage 3 Turbo your shit. I know of a guy getting 520+ to the rear wheels in his E36 ///M3.

BTW, just watch out for Vascar and detector unfriendly states like VA and Wash, DC.


Posted by teegee on Mar-02-2004 18:34:

do i even need to say anything here... look left.
while i think the new 5 is a little weird looking, the fact that it's got a v10 means it will absolutely kill anything around...byebye e65, rs6, etc. I cant wait to see the hartge version of this bad boy.

basically, M5 = best car ever...the first m5, the '96-'03 model, and the new e60. nuff said.


Posted by getfoul on Mar-02-2004 18:47:

Amount of cylinders generally means nothing. Look around at the Supra's (IMO overrated but still good cars) the Ford GT, Porsche 911 Turbo, the Hot Rods (8 second passes on street tires with an 8 cylinder)

The fact that it has a V10 really is not important if you are looking for a true HP gain. That just means its heavier. The BMW 850 ci V12, horrible car. These would sell at dealer auctions for dirt cheap because everyone hated working on the engine.


Posted by teegee on Mar-02-2004 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by getfoul
Amount of cylinders generally means nothing. Look around at the Supra's (IMO overrated but still good cars) the Ford GT, Porsche 911 Turbo, the Hot Rods (8 second passes on street tires with an 8 cylinder)

The fact that it has a V10 really is not important if you are looking for a true HP gain. That just means its heavier. The BMW 850 ci V12, horrible car. These would sell at dealer auctions for dirt cheap because everyone hated working on the engine.


yeah but it's a v10 with over five hundred horspower. thats a significant increase in the hp of the last m5 (394hp from an eight)


Posted by Trancer-X on Mar-02-2004 19:38:

I always dreamed of taking an M5 and stuffing a McLaren F1 ///M motor into it.

627hp from the factory 6.1L V12 (or 680 hp in the less restricted LM version)


Posted by getfoul on Mar-02-2004 20:13:


^^^^^^
Current dream car I'de take it over any BMW M series or not.


S65 AMG Read this before you bash the *65 AMG series of Mercedes.
For those of you that don't want to look heres the HP and TQ specs

quote:
Type:
Twin-Turbo V12

Displacement:
5980 cc

Horsepower:
612 bhp @ ---- rpm

Torque:
738 lb-ft @ 2000 rpm
And it will include paddle shifters. Another thing to take into consideration is the underrating of the HP and TQ specs, the actual should be close to 650 HP and 750 TQ.


Posted by keithos27 on Mar-02-2004 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by getfoul
Amount of cylinders generally means nothing. Look around at the Supra's (IMO overrated but still good cars) the Ford GT, Porsche 911 Turbo, the Hot Rods (8 second passes on street tires with an 8 cylinder)

The fact that it has a V10 really is not important if you are looking for a true HP gain. That just means its heavier. The BMW 850 ci V12, horrible car. These would sell at dealer auctions for dirt cheap because everyone hated working on the engine.


getfoul, you have to keep in mind that you are comparing apples to oranges... all of those cars you mentioned are either supercharged or turboed... the m5 with it's v10 will be naturally aspirated. it's going to be a beast just like the current model, and the models before it.

and yes the 8-series was a failure in many people's eyes... but i can't really ever recall an m-model that was a failure. these are enthusiast's cars.

-keith


Posted by keithos27 on Mar-02-2004 20:29:

getfoul,

also i heard that mercedes had to take a transmission from their truck division to handle the cl65/s65... those are monsters... just enough horsepower and displacement to get you from gas station to gas station.

-keith


Posted by nate735 on Mar-02-2004 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by keithos27
the m5 with it's v10 will be naturally aspirated. it's going to be a beast just like the current model, and the models before it.


-keith


Naturally asprated engines are great. I have an E46 m3 and the engine is amazing. So much power at any rpm with no lag. M engines are great.


Posted by BadBadNeil on Mar-02-2004 20:55:

Do you realize how retarded this all sounds? The whole point was just to show the new M5 not about how Mclarens or Ferraris or Mercedes are faster... Not arguing over some mythological car that one in this board will ever own.


Posted by keithos27 on Mar-02-2004 22:05:

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
Do you realize how retarded this all sounds? The whole point was just to show the new M5 not about how Mclarens or Ferraris or Mercedes are faster... Not arguing over some mythological car that one in this board will ever own.


What are you saying? No one on this board could ever own a McLaren or Ferrari or Mercedes? I think that is pretty closed-minded, don't you think? You never know who has what.

Regardless, I think people are entitled to their opinions. Some like the M5, otehrs like other cars better. That's all, no?

-Keith


Posted by keithos27 on Mar-02-2004 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by nate735
Naturally asprated engines are great. I have an E46 m3 and the engine is amazing. So much power at any rpm with no lag. M engines are great.


Amen! I have a 2002 e39 M5... so much torque, no lag, etc. Not to say a twin turbo 996 couldn't kill me, but it's a totally different car.

There is something to be said about naturally aspirated engines.

-Keith


Posted by nate735 on Mar-02-2004 23:18:

Updated pics on page 1, check them out!!


Posted by keithos27 on Mar-02-2004 23:28:

btw, an excellent m5 resource is www.m5board.com/vbulletin

-keith


Posted by nate735 on Mar-02-2004 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by keithos27
btw, an excellent m5 resource is www.m5board.com/vbulletin

-keith

Thats where the pics came from. Great site.


Posted by keithos27 on Mar-03-2004 01:24:

quote:
Originally posted by nate735
Thats where the pics came from. Great site.


Yeah all of the guys on there are very knowledgable and respectful. We meet up quite often... you should join the board and come to one of the gatherings. Bring your M3.

-Keith


Posted by nate735 on Mar-03-2004 02:18:

will do. when is the next ny gathering ?


Posted by DJediMaster on Mar-03-2004 02:19:


Posted by Laszlo on Mar-03-2004 02:27:

Bah! I prefer the previous M5. Don't like this one at all...


Posted by keithos27 on Mar-03-2004 03:41:

quote:
Originally posted by nate735
will do. when is the next ny gathering ?



Can't remember off the top of my head... I think there is going to be a "mega meet" in March/April in CT where the NY/NJ/CT crew will meet up with the MA/RI crew in the middle (CT). Should be a great turn out.

-Keith


Posted by vasyachkin on Mar-03-2004 09:04:

there is a Chrysler supercar prototype with an AMG V12 Quad-Turbo 850 horsepower engine that does 0-60 in 2.9 seconds ...

its called Chrysler ME Four-Twelve



it hits that 60mph in first gear


Posted by Trancer-X on Mar-03-2004 09:24:

quote:
Originally posted by vasyachkin
its called Chrysler ME Four-Twelve



it hits that 60mph in first gear


That looks like a more sinister version of the Bugatti EB110 ! Sick !


Posted by Laszlo on Mar-03-2004 12:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Laszlo
Bah! I prefer the previous M5. Don't like this one at all...


I think I've changed my mind. I've been glancing at this car for the last couple of hours and I can't seem to take my eyes off it...it just sorta grew on me. Time to start saving some money.

Are there by the way any pics of the interior?


Posted by m0sh on Mar-03-2004 12:12:

The new M5 looks fucking great!
Damn I'd love to get one
The old M1 looking sweet aswell

As for Chrysler ME Four-Twelve which has such a stupid name (If I remeber right its Multi Engine 4Turbo 12Cylinders) , in the newspaper it looked too techy and less stylish but here it looks abit better


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