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anyone think the backlash will extend to synagogues around the world? seems like Sharon loves to stir up shit =\

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Originally posted by occrider But then all those displaced from the terrorist demands will then resort to terrorist activity to acheive their agenda in a never-ending cycle . Of course, given that the former terrorists were resorting to the things they were resorting to, it seems unlikely that they would practice the same kind of restraint that society is currently practicing.

Can you say "resort" a few more times? I am almost ready to pull my checkbook out and buy a timeshare from you.


On the topic...I don't think this was a good thing. I am not saying that he was a good man or anything, but martyrdom of a spritual leader with the number of followers that Yassin has creates a whole new batch of problems which I do not think the Israeli government took into consideration. We shall see what happens in the long run.

MrS

Jews with the right idea.



Israeli Yaacov Fauci, a member of the extremist Jewish Kahane group drinks whiskey during a toast with members of the group to celebrate the assassination of Hamas leader Ahmed Yassin by Israeli forces in Gaza, outside the Peace Now organization offices in Jerusalem, Monday March 22, 2004. The placard is refers to Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat (news - web sites). Five members of the extremist group gathered to celebrate the killing of the Hamas founder in a helicopter missile strike in Gaza city early Monday. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)

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Originally posted by imokruok Jews with the right idea. Israeli Yaacov Fauci, a member of the extremist Jewish Kahane group drinks whiskey during a toast with members of the group to celebrate the assassination of Hamas leader Ahmed Yassin by Israeli forces in Gaza, outside the Peace Now organization offices in Jerusalem, Monday March 22, 2004. The placard is refers to Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat (news - web sites). Five members of the extremist group gathered to celebrate the killing of the Hamas founder in a helicopter missile strike in Gaza city early Monday. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)

KAHANE!!!! HAHAHAHHAHH

You are a moron is you advocate their actions.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King KAHANE!!!! HAHAHAHHAHH You are a moron is you advocate their actions.

I advocate drinking ...

I thought most extremists were generally straight edge.

goddamn... how powerful arent the Israelis? They had to launch 4 freakin' missiles into the street to assasinate a man who just came out of his mosque or whatever, after he had been praying to his god, wich in fact IS the SAME god as the Jews believe in. Its basically the same religion, only different is how theythink of the son of God, and who it is, when he will come, and etc.

I think this is THE stupidest move they have ever done, since they by doing this will only be hated more and more, and have less and less a chance of living in peace anywhere. Just give it five to ten years keeping up with this terrorism, wich it is, the Israelis terrorize the Palestinians with heavy weaponary, while the Palestinians are not sponsored up theyr asses by the US, so they will have to use crappy bombs theyve made themselves.

I think Sharon is a powerabuser, just like Mr George Fucking Bush. I seriously cant find an argument for why I should support the Israelis, when they cant say "thank you for letting us live in your counrty, kind palestinians" and just live in peace and harmony, like they did in hundreds of years before the UN interferred.

All i have to say is, no wonder why "jew" is considered a swear word!

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Originally posted by dj_alfi All i have to say is, no wonder why "jew" is considered a swear word!

Say what?

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Originally posted by Shakka Say what?

calling someone a jew, i when they are not, is considered to be rude, and also a swear word, not in the same class as **** or fuck. It is kind of the same as calling someone gay when they are not.

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Originally posted by itsamemario calling someone a jew, i when they are not, is considered to be rude, and also a swear word, not in the same class as **** or fuck. It is kind of the same as calling someone gay when they are not.

lol, they *'ed c-u-n-t but not fuck

and btw, i have nothing against jews to get that clear, only the leaders of the Israelis. All i mean is that people will think of all jews as the Israelis if this terror continues

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Originally posted by dj_alfi and btw, i have nothing against jews to get that clear, only the leaders of the Israelis. All i mean is that people will think of all jews as the Israelis if this terror continues

and I have nothing against Norweigians (esp. when they are hot blond scandanavian girls) only your butt drunkard King

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Originally posted by dj_alfi goddamn... how powerful arent the Israelis? They had to launch 4 freakin' missiles into the street to assasinate a man who just came out of his mosque or whatever, after he had been praying to his god, wich in fact IS the SAME god as the Jews believe in. Its basically the same religion, only different is how theythink of the son of God, and who it is, when he will come, and etc.

*sigh*

Alright, here we go...

If there even is any God, which there isn't, what is your basis for saying that it's the "same" one? And how does that have any relevance whatsoever to this? What, you think Israel killed him because he was worshipping? As opposed to killing him because he sent hundreds of walking bombs into their state? Logic, dude, logic...

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I think this is THE stupidest move they have ever done, since they by doing this will only be hated more and more, and have less and less a chance of living in peace anywhere. Just give it five to ten years keeping up with this terrorism, wich it is, the Israelis terrorize the Palestinians with heavy weaponary, while the Palestinians are not sponsored up theyr asses by the US, so they will have to use crappy bombs theyve made themselves.

I suppose you're one of these advocates of "leveling the playing field?" So if one state wants to attack another, but they don't have powerful enough weapons or a strong enough or well-trained enough army, they should still somehow have an "equal" chance of winning. Because it's all about "equality", right?

Doesn't it say something to you that Israel, despite all its "heavy weaponry", hasn't obliterated Palestine completely? They could do it in the wink of an eye, but they don't, because the Israelis have this ridiculous idea in their heads that a peaceful solution is actually possible.

Since you obviously haven't read any of my posts or anybody else's posts in this thread and just decided to throw in your two cents and hope for the best, I'll reiterate it for you: "Inciting violence" in Palestine is like topping up an almost-full gas tank. They are already blowing up civilians. Exactly how much worse do you think it can get? If Palestine decides to retaliate on a ridiculous level, it's just giving Israel more of a reason to take more serious military action - retaliation isn't a very smart move on part of Palestine, as I'm sure there are several Israelis who, as photos in this thread have suggested, would like Israel to "finish the job." (Whether or not this is the right thing to do isn't the point - the point is that people in Israel are looking for an excuse to get rid of more enemies of the state now).

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I think Sharon is a powerabuser, just like Mr George Fucking Bush. I seriously cant find an argument for why I should support the Israelis, when they cant say "thank you for letting us live in your counrty, kind palestinians" and just live in peace and harmony, like they did in hundreds of years before the UN interferred.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, what the fuck are you talking about, Palestine didn't even exist "before the UN interfered", it was part of a bunch of separate Arab countries who ALSO refused to give them their own state. Israel actually OFFERED them their own state, but due to idiotic terrorist groups like Hamas, who have no goal but the total obliteration of Israel, they lost that chance too.

Israel should thank Palestine? For constantly attacking them while they tried to live in peace? Yeah... good one.

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All i have to say is, no wonder why "jew" is considered a swear word!

Well, at least now we all know which perspective you're speaking from. Congratulations, you've made my list of people who I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.

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Originally posted by Yoepus and I have nothing against Norweigians (esp. when they are hot blond scandanavian girls) only your butt drunkard King

what?? the king doesnt do anything wrong.. and he doesnt drink that much

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Originally posted by DigiNut Congratulations, you've made my list of people who I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.

lol i gotta use this one too

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Originally posted by DigiNut [COLOR=#99CCEE]*sigh* If there even is any God, which there isn't, what is your basis for saying that it's the "same" one? COLOR]

it is.. have u read the koran???

but anywho.. religion is just a state-of-mind-..

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Originally posted by dj_alfi All i have to say is, no wonder why "jew" is considered a swear word!

Fucking moron. What is it with you Scandinivians and your dubios feelings towards Jews

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Originally posted by TranceGiant Fucking moron. What is it with you Scandinivians and your dubios feelings towards Jews

Please elaborate on that racist and overgeneralizing comment.

Edit: That is, the second part - I won't be the one to question your first point.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi goddamn... how powerful arent the Israelis? They had to launch 4 freakin' missiles into the street to assasinate a man who just came out of his mosque or whatever, after he had been praying to his god, wich in fact IS the SAME god as the Jews believe in. Its basically the same religion, only different is how theythink of the son of God, and who it is, when he will come, and etc.

Do you actually think Israel shouldn't have killed Yassin just because the Muslims believe in the same god as the Jews according to the Koran?
That must be the most stupid argument I havev heard in this thread so far.

The Israeli battle against terror hasn�t got anything to do with religion. Muslims can believe in whatever they want, but when it comes to killing Israeli civilians and blowing them selves up after receiving Yassin's blessing Israel can't just stay passive.

Oh and btw, Im a Jew and I don�t believe in any god. What I do believe in is morality.
Im not justifying the way Israel was created, I also think it was wrong not to have it all coordinated with the Arabs who were leaving in Israel at that time.
But sending young Palestinians to blow them selves up when they have their whole lives in front of them and saying its gods will is just unmoral in my opinion.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi All i have to say is, no wonder why "jew" is considered a swear word!

I feel sorry for you then...

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Originally posted by DJ-Kreing^^ Do you actually think Israel shouldn't have killed Yassin just because the Muslims believe in the same god as the Jews according to the Koran? That must be the most stupid argument I havev heard in this thread so far.

i was referring to the speach some Israeli stateleader or whatever said, i dont remember who, i heard it on the radio, who said "oh we are proud of the attack and blablabla... if you are going to take someone out, send a sniper or whatever... dont launch four fucking missiles into the street...

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Oh and btw, Im a Jew and I don�t believe in any god.

hmmm.. i believe that is called self contradiction..

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Fucking moron. What is it with you Scandinivians and your dubios feelings towards Jews

i have nothing against jews, but unforunately there are some people that does... i was just saying that this doesnt help people in understandind that jews are people too, in my own kind of weird way..



AND btw, there may be some errors in my first post, since i was rushing to get it down, and alot of frustration got in, that may not have been intended. And I like to argue

This thread will go down one of these paths from now on:
A) We will argue the same pointover again, regarding the assasination (or bombardment)

B) The flaming will stray off the subject, and thus we have another Israeli-State-Existance argument, which doesn't really belong in this thread...

Shall we all just conclude in the decision of "Good decision, terrible timing" ?

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Originally posted by dj_alfi i was referring to the speach some Israeli stateleader or whatever said, i dont remember who, i heard it on the radio, who said "oh we are proud of the attack and blablabla... if you are going to take someone out, send a sniper or whatever... dont launch four fucking missiles into the street...

If they could have sent in a sniper without much risk to the sniper's live they would have.

You have no sence of history or operative constraints.

Yassin was targeted in September with only one missle. This didn't kill him, all it did was give him a small scarth on his hand. They used helicopters with a light missle. If it wanted to, it could have sent an F-16 instead and leveled the building he was in.

Considering the fact that Israel could not deploy a sniper team without great risk to the sniper team itself (via insertion and extraction) and other Palestinians (if the sniper team came underfire, the civilian casualties caused in the crossfire to feverntly defend the lives of the sniper team, would most likely be high) it decided to use helicopters. Making sure Yassin would not escape death once again, they launched a few extra missles to make sure he was dead. I see no problem with that.

The strike was conducted at very early morning, when most everyone was indoors, and sleeping. The place was not crowded, and civilian casualties were very low.

If Israel could have done the strike more humanily without incuring more risk they would have. Please, unless you don't know the speific operational circumstances of an operation telling us how it "should have been done".

Next time I guess Israel needs to kill their terrorist enemies, we should call a Norwegian sniper team to do the job for us successfully and humanily, right? I'm sure you guys will just be lining up and volunteering

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Originally posted by oDrori Shall we all just conclude in the decision of "Good decision, terrible timing" ?

well, is there ever a good time to die?

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Originally posted by Yoepus If they could have sent in a sniper without much risk to the sniper's live they would have.

ok c yur point.. i was merely lol'ing a bit at the speech the guy made... murder is nothing to be proud of, u know

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Next time I guess Israel needs to kill their terrorist enemies, we should call a Norwegian sniper team to do the job for us successfully and humanily, right? I'm sure you guys will just be lining up and volunteering

yeah moist likely
even tho we have a group of highly trained people for just this..
but i think theyr busy somewhere else... my advice would be stop goddamn killing eachother!!

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Originally posted by dj_alfi hmmm.. i believe that is called self contradiction..

Nope... that�s just you being stupid.

Im Jewish yes. But that is Jewish as my nationality, not as my religion

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Originally posted by Yoepus well, is there ever a good time to die?

Nope, and nor will there ever be a time when we kill a terrorist leader without arousing anger and hostility from his followers and from foreign governments, anytime soon at least.
Still I believe we should bring the media-war and political map into the equation before actions such as these.
I assume the heads behind this operation did so, but I wouldn't agree with their decision.

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Originally posted by DJ-Kreing^^ Nope... that�s just you being stupid. Im Jewish yes. But that is Jewish as my nationality, not as my religion

uh no... your country is called Isreal, thus makes you an Israeli. You dont live in Jewdia do you? Jewdeism (spell check) is a religion.. NOT a nationality... moron

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