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Posted by capricorn15 on Apr-26-2004 07:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Owen
You have no fucking idea how much im into electronica music... ahh so your one of them people who judge other members by their avar information. Heaps mature and smart.

What he said! Read it over a few times untill it sinks into your narrow minded skull.

addikted is just a moron who feels better about himself when flaming people online, haha, just ignore him, he just wants the attention of a post back from you. hehe

Posted by refuge on Apr-26-2004 07:10:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
see if you clowns have not realized this but I have the balls to say what you guys only dream about saying. Do I care if Atb and Sasha are friends? I mean the guy made a track that is so Scorchioesque that I believe it is stealing. I've always hated people taking something and making it sound so much like another track, I mean are'nt producers supposed to use their original ideas?. I'm sure Tanneberger has an explanation for that as well but as I stated earlier I have the balls to say what most of you don't have the balls to say and I've been doing it for years and I don't plan to stop.

What the hell does E-thugging on the internet have anything to do

with how any of us handle situations in real life? Acting hard

on the internet doesn't make one tough. If you have such a

problem with Andre, why don't you tell him yourself? BTW: He would

work you in a fight... he's HUGE! Here's your oppurtunity to make

a blatant fool of yourself: ATB PM

edit: You may want to have someone who's fluent in German

translate your message for you.. have fun!

Posted by Owen on Apr-26-2004 08:51:

quote:
Originally posted by hadi ******
addikted is just a moron who feels better about himself when flaming people online, haha, just ignore him, he just wants the attention of a post back from you. hehe

I'd take your word for it. Tah

Posted by skip on Apr-26-2004 09:10:

Posted by montie on Apr-26-2004 09:37:

quote:
Originally posted by stupidisco
trance is lame.

great insight on the "trance" track scorchio

Posted by montie on Apr-26-2004 09:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
i wish there was a sample. i cant see to *get* it because peoples slots are full.

i really love "scorchio" i have 2 vinyls of scorchio lol. One with 'darren emerson late nite dub', and original and one with the unreleased something or other with 'lupus' on the flip side.

If the ATB track actually sounds like scorchio without giving sasha credit, then sasha should sue like ferry suing piccotto over 'like this like that'

yup yup i have both those releases also

i'm a big fan of emerson's late night dub

sander kleinenberg did the remix of scorchio on the vinyl with lupus. its on his GU Nubreed album. fucking sick remix.
lupus is an awsome track. aparently it was a song sasha never finished and cass, slide and jimmy van m took what made and turned it into the track thats on that release

and eh, your not missing much by not hearing ATB's song

Posted by m0sh on Apr-26-2004 11:06:

Hmmm...

Posted by LiQuiD_FuSioN on Apr-26-2004 13:08:

Re: ATB is a thief!!!!!!!!!!

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
Someone pointed out and I will confirm the following

Atb's Remember is a ripoff, blatant josh winkesque stealing (yes wink is a dirty thief) but this is beyond a ripoff. Remember steals the riff from Scorchio, such an amazing tune that scorchio was but ATB should be shot for this. I wonder if Sasha's lawyers ever found out about this. It is too blatantly a ripoff.....please atb....get your own ideas.

first you ruined your not alone and now this..sighs

Posted by Tranc3 on Apr-26-2004 18:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
If the ATB track actually sounds like scorchio without giving sasha credit, then sasha should sue like ferry suing piccotto over 'like this like that'

That would be Armin

Posted by Dmatrox on Apr-26-2004 18:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranc3
That would be Armin

woops, where was my head at. sorry , i meant: armin - blue ph33r

Posted by Floorfiller on Apr-26-2004 18:45:

i don't just see why if he wants to use the melody he doesn't just do:

Sasha & Emerson - Scorchio (ATB Mix)??

why does he have to rename it?

Posted by skip on Apr-26-2004 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
i don't just see why if he wants to use the melody he doesn't just do:

Sasha & Emerson - Scorchio (ATB Mix)??

why does he have to rename it?

because he can release that and i'm sure he wouldn't get the permission to release it at all either! but if he makes a cover version of the tune he can use the melody if he credits the original producers if he doesn't sample it! if he samples it he's gonna need a permission! and i'm sure sasha would like to see this released as an atb tune rather than a remix of his tune for sure! i mean come on! atb remixing sasha! credibility lost totally in the eyes of true prog purists! that's the way it goes afaik, but don't quote me on that as i'm not an international lawyer specialised in music copyright law!

Posted by torontotrance on Apr-26-2004 20:52:

I post this and all the haters come out of the woodwork....you can all fuck off. I'll happily tell ATB that I believe the tunes are similar and that he stole the riff then altered it. I doubt ATB honestly gives a shit about this anyway because he made so much money from earlier things.

Posted by torontotrance on Apr-26-2004 21:32:

ok, if anyone is still not believing me,
i've made some samples (save target) and rename to mp3
sasha & darren emerson - scorchio (2000)
atb - remember (2002)

Posted by gibbo on Apr-26-2004 21:36:

They do sound pretty Much the same, its not a suprise though its not like its the first time an amazing tune has been ripped off to create a shit one

Posted by Dazdaking on Apr-26-2004 21:38:

This is shocking, its blatantly a rip off, you can tell after like 7seconds!!!! obviously its slightly diffrent, i mean scorchio doesnt have that gippo'ish water sound in it, which is just pure gash, still no suprise because ATB is GASH.

Posted by R.j. on Apr-26-2004 21:40:

nigga plzzz.....

Posted by Dazdaking on Apr-26-2004 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by R.j.
nigga plzzz.....

Are you in some way trying to imply that I am of afro-american origin?

Posted by R.j. on Apr-26-2004 21:44:

lol i dunno are u?

i'm bored man, give me a break

Posted by torontotrance on Apr-26-2004 21:47:

quote:
Originally posted by refuge.01^
What the hell does E-thugging on the internet have anything to do

with how any of us handle situations in real life? Acting hard

on the internet doesn't make one tough. If you have such a

problem with Andre, why don't you tell him yourself? BTW: He would

work you in a fight... he's HUGE! Here's your oppurtunity to make

a blatant fool of yourself: ATB PM

edit: You may want to have someone who's fluent in German

translate your message for you.. have fun!

listen to the samples....plain and simple to see. They speak for themselves..you = pwned.

Posted by bedrocking on Apr-26-2004 21:49:

I still think the funniest thing is that everyone thinks that Sasha and ATB are best mates, hahahaha. What the fuck are you talking about?

In 2000 I remember Sasha banging on about how people like ATB had ruined trance music and reduced it to the lowen common denominator, and why he had moved onto to other stuff.

Posted by Dahippieman on Apr-26-2004 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
ok, if anyone is still not believing me,
i've made some samples (save target) and rename to mp3
sasha & darren emerson - scorchio (2000)
atb - remember (2002)

Not only is it a total rip off but a shitty rip off at that.

Shocking

Posted by torontotrance on Apr-26-2004 21:53:

I mean ffs...I should have made the samples yesterday and then all the gimps trying to punk me off would not be able to because the proof speaks for itself.

Someone call Sasha's lawyers...lol

Posted by nialsjd on Apr-26-2004 22:01:

everyone is impressed

Posted by Dmatrox on Apr-26-2004 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by bedrocking
I still think the funniest thing is that everyone thinks that Sasha and ATB are best mates, hahahaha. What the fuck are you talking about?

In 2000 I remember Sasha banging on about how people like ATB had ruined trance music and reduced it to the lowen common denominator, and why he had moved onto to other stuff.

Been some rumors about paul van dyk hating ATB too.

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