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Ant, its not a matter of that, its just that its going to open up a lot more doors, and at this point in time, I am trying to bring closure to this all.

By next week I know for sure 4/5 victims will be paid off. I am hoping d3020 receives his money today. He is the one who brought the whole drama to public view on the board, so he is one I am happy will receive payment now, rather than later.

Scorpion, I am going to go to the post office today to send you an international money order.

Tegu, I am pretty sure next Tuesday is when I will send your payment. I will also overnight it to you since you had such a huge amount of money taken from you.

Sound good guys?

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Originally posted by jthorn If you steal something, hold onto it for 2 months, and then offer to gradually return it over a period of time after much duress, you do not change the fact that you are a criminal. While returning the money is certainly the proper course of action, it does not change the fact that you commited a crime. There are factors other than the the raw monetary value of an item, and you have impacted people's lives beyond the immediately evident financial harm. There is emotional duress, there is effort expended, there is lost interest and lost purchasing power. As for me, I have been unable to purchase the item I require as this has all dragged on, mired in uncertainly. You have done real harm to real people through your crimes, even should you return the funds at some point. If you returned all of my money today, would I just walk away from this? I honestly don't know the answer to that. If I just walked away, then you certainly would have managed to beat the system. You would have consumed countless hours of my and other forum members' lives that were spent trying to right what you have done, and you effectively would exit the situation no worse than you entered - save for a lost eBay account and some bad blood on a forum. You would even have effectively managed some really wonderful terms on a $2300 loan - 0% interest with no payments. If I had just walked away to begin with, then you might still be scamming people now. Hell, for all I know, you still could be doing so elsewhere - I cannot truly believe you now, and you must surely understand why. Once somebody has demonstrated that he is a liar countless times over, it is indeed very hard to prove the negative. My sense of justice tells me that every avenue should be pursued, that walking away now is absolutely the wrong thing to do. But I must admit that you've worn me down so much over the past months that I would strongly consider taking the money and walking away, just so the whole god forsaken mess could be out of my life. And maybe you are right after all, maybe the system will just completely fail. It's really a quite depressing thought. Of course, that is all moot anyway. You cannot or will not return all of my money promptly, for reasons that are (to me at least) largely irrelevant, and I could not accept delayed installement payments even if I did trust you to provide them. You could be telling the truth, you could be lying - all I know is that I gave you $2300 in good faith for a product you did not provide me, and here we are, two months later, with you unable to present a solution that is acceptable. I can only do what I can do, and continue as I have. Barring new information or another compelling reason to comment, this will likely be my last post here, as I feel I have explained my situation and my options completely to the affected members of this forum, who fortunately appear to be faring much better at this point than I am. I do hope that the information I have been able to provide has been of some help to you all. If anybody wishes to contact me, you may do so via email at [email protected] or on aim as jeremynthornhill

Jeremey, thanks for clarifying. You are right. If I walk away from this with just the same amount of money as I walked in with, technically I am beating system. However, that is not the case. As of now, this is going to haunt me for the rest of the life because anyone who googles my name will be able to view all of this. I have lost a lot more than you think. I have lost something so priceless, which is my good name.

Keep in mind that my offer was not to pay you in installments. My offer was that you sell the powerbook I sent you for whatever amount you can possibly get on eBay, and then I can pay you the FULL difference between what you got on eBay and the $2300 you paid me. This way you could have your money in 1 week, rather than the months its going to take me to earn $2300. Keep in mind I support myself. I pay my own rent, utilities, tuition, and various living expenses.

Say you sold the powerbook on eBay for $1500. I would then reimburse you the $800 that would add up to you $2300 total.

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If I had just walked away to begin with, then you might still be scamming people now. Hell, for all I know, you still could be doing so elsewhere

Stop fabricating and speculating. I will never do something like this again. Do you really think I would immediately start scamming people after I have been publicly humiliated?

Since this is your last post, I will just communicate with you on AIM if thats fine.

Cheers.

A really strange thing just happened.

I turned on the TV and the movie Boiling Room came on. If you guys havent seen it, its about this guy who gets a job at this brokerage firm that scams people by selling them shares to fake companies

I came in on the scene when the main character just fucked this guy out of his life savings of $50,000. Then he meets up with his dad and his dad says "You lying sack of shit. How many people have yo fucked over Seth? How many? You work for a chop shop Seth. Tell me, how much money have you made them Seth, come on , tell me. How many lives have you ruined. I dont want to ever see you again Seth."


It instantly made me think of my whole situation here. I may have not gone so far as to ruin peoples lives, but I did hurt 5 people and cause them a lot of pain.

My question is:

You say you don't have the money to give them, well some of them anyway. Where did it go? It wouldnt have been any more than a month ago you recieved all this money.



Anyway i hope you sort stuff out Spective, i think its good you have at least admitted your wrongs and are making an effort to repay the people. All i can suggest is, put yourself in the people you lied to shoes. How would they be feeling? Would you like to be cheated like that? A Quote from the good ol' bible: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Thats my advice. I hope you are able to move on from this and your depression.

I am disappointed Spective. I've seen you around TA, on #vandit and in pictures with other TAs through the years. I've known of you since spectivedance.com with your interview with Sander and Second Sun. I've browsed through your many records sales on ebay. It is absolutely shocking to read all this because I didn't think you were that type of person.

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It instantly made me think of my whole situation here. I may have not gone so far as to ruin peoples lives, but I did hurt 5 people and cause them a lot of pain.

You're done more than cheat 5 people of their money. You've stole the confidence of fellow TA member towards each other. Even if you did repay everyone, you can never return that confidence. All this talk about how sorry you are, at the end, is just talk. Return the money as soon as possible and maybe someone will believe you truly are sorry.

Thanks for a very fair and constructive post Stamper.

Like I said, if I mentioned exactly where the money went, it would just open a whole row of doors. I really need to try bringing closure to this.

I will try my best to beat my depression, and learn from this mistake. Its definitely been an experience that makes me look in the mirroe often and ask "why are you?"

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Originally posted by Scottaculous I am disappointed Spective. I've seen you around TA, on #vandit and in pictures with other TAs through the years. I've known of you since spectivedance.com with your interview with Sander and Second Sun. I've browsed through your many records sales on ebay. It is absolutely shocking to read all this because I didn't think you were that type of person. You're done more than cheat 5 people of their money. You've stole the confidence of fellow TA member towards each other. Even if you did repay everyone, you can never return that confidence. All this talk about how sorry you are, at the end, is just talk. Return the money as soon as possible and maybe someone will believe you truly are sorry.

Scott. Having known me all these years, you know that I havent always been like this. It was just this lapse in judgement, and I fucked up. You know how involved I am in the industry and the scene. You know the type of contacts I keep.

Ive said it before, ive said it a 100 times, and Ill say it one more time for you Scott. 1 person out of the 5 has been paid. The 2nd person should be receiving his money in the mail today. The third person will have his money mailed out by tomorrow at latest. The 4th person will have his money mailed by next Tuesday. The 5th person is the powerbook dude, and he I will try coming to some sort of agreement via AIM.

I apologize to you Scott. Just try not to label me as a criminal for the rest of my life. I know that wont happen until people see good things coming from me, but rest assured, these will be actions, not words.

so my post wasnt fair and constructive?

what aint fair is u ripped off these ppl.

^ Sim. I am starting to understand now why a couple years back on the TA chat, I asked if Simcut does TA radio anymore, and everyone started laughing and talking shit about you. They made you out to be some type of moron.

I always thought of you as a good person. I used to love listening to you on TA radio, and having yo playing my requests.

Frankly though, all you do is twist my words around. Just because I told one person his post was fair, doesnt mean I didnt think yours wasnt. You are like some kind of woman who you try to compliment by saying "Wow you look really beautiful today" and instead of saying thanks, you say "What? So I wasnt beautiful any other days?"

I do agree with you that it wasnt fair for me to rip them off. How many times have I condemned my own actions since posting this thread? Too many to count. Stop acting and posting as if I have no regrets for what I did, and that I believe I am right.

I am completely wrong in my actions that I took against these 5 innocent people. I am completely fucked up for doing this time them. However, I know that I still have a good heart. I know of all the the good things I have done in the past and what I plan to do in the future.

um that was 2 years ago, and I didnt do any stealing of 1000's of dollars like you have done, so dont you start giving me that stuff.

I think you'll find everyone will agree that I am nothing like the person I was, I am just annoyed with you because you have ripped people out of 1000's of dollars! disgusting that you try and give me shit now....

you have a bloody cheek to start giving me shite etc, I have done NOTHING wrong, you have done all the wrong here..! :\

Exactly. You are nothing like the person YOU WERE. I still think you are a good person at heart. You had your mistakes, and then you grew from them into the better person you are correct?

It might take me 2 years to get to be known as a good person again, but dont you think that 2 years ago, when people were giving you shit, it would have helped you become a better person if people positively reinforced your efforts instead of negatively?

I mean mate, I have nothing against you. I really did enjoy listening to you. Those were the good old days.

Just let me try moving on ok? You dont need to pass anymore judgement or try twisting my words around.

If anyone has the right to continue shitting on my head, its those 5 individuals who I screwed over.

You know what the irony is? Those 5 individuals have been the most civil out of all of you. Ive had private conversations with Thanh and Tegu, and both have earned my respect because they understood that I came to my senses, I am sorry, and that they will get their money back (In Thanhs case, he already got his). I used to think Tegu was this little kid who was just being fed threats from his parents mouths. Although Jthorn and I havent reached a payment agreement yet, I still repect him for talking to me like an adult. I may not agree with what he thinks about me, but he doesnt use immaturity to convey is thoughts.

After speaking to him last night after I confessed, I just have to say he is a good guy. This motivated me to persue even more aggressively to find ways to get his money back. Now he only has to wait till next Tuesday.

Basically, the more you all positively reinforce your comments and advice, the faster I will get better. The more negative reinforcement, the harder I fall down each time.

you know Spective, no matter how many times you apologize to everyone here... i dont think it really matters because there are always someone who will hate you and talk down on you.

Some will believe you and some won't... Its useless to respond to ppls comments on here.

I'm pretty sure you trying your best to right this wrong you made, so dont waste your time and stress over other ppls comments by explaining yourself. You know what needs to be done, so just do it.

and may this be a lesson for all(seller, buyer, and the people reading this), just be careful on purchases over the internet. If its too good of a deal, then it probably is! Hope everyone learned something valuable from this ordeal. I know i did!!!

Let us know how everything turns out... and the status of payment from everyone else.

Best wishes to the people who are still awaiting their refund!!!
(Tegu, d3020, jthorn, and scorpion)

Thanks Thanh. I really appreciate your tact in how you handled everything dring this ordeal. After that day you gave me a call, I knew I wanted to take care of your first and foremost.

I'll keep everyone updated.

D3020, please give us a post when your money arrives today.

Are there just 5? I remember seeing several auctions on eBay for the same kind of powerbook Jeremy paid for. Not to mention other auctions of electronic equipment out there just before your account was killed. What happened with those people?

Jeremy took care of warning any of the bidders on the other powerbooks I listed. Noone sent money. The only powerbook that was sent out was the only one I actually had, which went to Jeremy.

There are only 5 victims, because only 5 people actually sent me money.

omg... ive studied ALOT of scams over the net, since this whole ordeal kinda fascinates me... Even if you are sick or not, before you posted this whole thread, you could have gotten out and bought a bottle of pills (whatever it is) photoshopped a prozac label and threw in yur name on it... Im not saying yur not sick, cus u clearly is a SICK MOFO, but when con artists get trapped, they do whatever they can too get out... I know you didnt do this, cus nobody is stupid enough to put in their real adress on the label... This is just an example...

I think we should have every right to rip on you, since you ripped off theese people (no pun intended (rip on, rip off if u didnt get it :P))
You may not have ruined their whole lives, but you have made them unable to use money, and they may or may not have lost their trust to the For Sale forum, or ebay, or whatever that isnt done face-to-face..

SHAME ON YOU!!!!

And for ppl complaining about me not having anything to do with this, he tried to scam me aswell... I was smart enough to do some checking around first...

You are clearly dillusional and blind to think that my prozac bottle is al photoshopped.

Do you think I photoshopped those cut marks on my arms too ?

Get a fucking clue. You sound like a conspiracy theorist for the Bush administration. Did you write that one about the weapons of mass destruction too?

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Originally posted by Spective Jeremy took care of warning any of the bidders on the other powerbooks I listed. Noone sent money. The only powerbook that was sent out was the only one I actually had, which went to Jeremy. There are only 5 victims, because only 5 people actually sent me money.

Thanks, Spective. I was just curious. I came from the ebay side of things, and was never aware of this place until I read about it in Jeremy's blog. I am a friend of his, by the way... though I never felt any inclination to speak on his behalf. He does well enough for himself.

fuck you loser... i didnt say you did it... now you are the fucking woman twisting the words!!! fuck you fuck you fuck YOU!!
And those pictures could easily have been found anywhere on the net looser!!!!

hmmm, whats that on your forehead? oh its a big fucking

L

Oh yeah, because everyone knows that the name Shehryar Qamar is so common.

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you could have gotten out and bought a bottle of pills (whatever it is) photoshopped a prozac label and threw in yur name on it...

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uck you loser... i didnt say you did it... now you are the fucking woman twisting the words!!!

Look how stupid you just made yourself look.

You said yourself that it looks photoshopped. Who do you think did it? Oh, must have been Saddam Hussein huh?!

This should clear things up sherlock

oh your so fucking stupid!!!

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Even if you are sick or not, before you posted this whole thread, you could have gotten out and bought a bottle of pills (whatever it is) photoshopped a prozac label and threw in yur name on it... Im not saying yur not sick, cus u clearly is a SICK MOFO, but when con artists get trapped, they do whatever they can too get out... I know you didnt do this, cus nobody is stupid enough to put in their real adress on the label... This is just an example...

god damn you are one stupid mofo!!

Oh please. First you insinuate that I did do it, then you write "oh but I know you didnt do it"

So if you know I wouldnt do that, why even suggest it moron?

Oh and that is not my complete address. That is just the street addres of my apartment complex. Its not like I would put my exact address on the internet when I have just been caught for pulling a scam

i said it was an example fuckface!!!

you call ME a moron??? im not the wanker that tried to scam 3 grand!!

i fucking hope youll put a bullet in yur head loser... just be sure to put it to the temple and pointing it backwards, cus we dont want you to survive and waiste more of the taxpayers money! just be fucking sure to pay tegu and the others back first...

you fucked up twatfaced imbecile

Everyone,
I think one small thing that can end up preventing big scams like this from ever happening again, is for me to write a "how to complete a safe transaction on TA" thread. Then if people think its good enough, maybe it can be kept as a sticky.

This way you guys get to know advice from an ex-scammer, and know how to protect yourselves.

How to complete a safe transaction on TA
written by DJ Alfi

DONT DEAL WITH PEOPLE WHO IS NAMED SHERYAR!!

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