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The reason why we don't have a military and why nobody will attack Canada is because it's too close to the US and the US will never allow it...if you think there's another reason you must be in denial...should I remind you the Cuban missle crisis...how they freaked out when Soviet Union started putting military bases and missles so close to them...what do you think will happen if anyone decided to take over Canada...

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Canada is US's major trading partner and vice versa...Canada is highly dependent on the US and we share the longest border in the world...the reason why we have such a small military is because we have the largest military underneath us for protection...

lol I would like to know which country is vowing to invade Canada.. Thats just it, we have a weak little foreign policy that won't ever offend anyone. We couldnt even take a strong stance against Iran over the Kazemi death.

That's true...BUT...if we went back to the cold war days for a minute...Soviets could have used Canada as a spring board to attack the US just as they did with CUBA and the US FREAKED OUT...of course nothing ever happened but regardless...

Right now that IS correct nbody wants to attack canada nor it needs to...but i'm just saying that we are protected by uncle Sam down south regardless, and for their own interest not ours by the way...

Actually, Canada is ranked 5th I believe as a "Christian target" to some fanatic groups out there.

1. America
2. Britain
3. Spain
4. Australia
5. Canada.

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Originally posted by cap Actually, Canada is ranked 5th I believe as a "Christian target" to some fanatic groups out there. 1. America 2. Britain 3. Spain 4. Australia 5. Canada.

yah know, I highly doubt Canada is even on the radar when it comes to a terrorists eyes. Why go after Canada when there are much greater targets? We're world renound as peace keepers and peace makers, I just wish our foreign policy was less bark and more bite.

the real solution to our military problem is to have a small highly trained, very equipped task force. 5-10,000 men that can be sent into SMALL yet highly volatile situations and BE EFFECTIVE. War as we use to know it such as WW2 is gone. From now on we will just see small isolated skirmishes that end in a matter of days/months. The latest Iraqi invasion is a testament to that.

I don't think you need to actually and physically "invade" Canada...just the fact that these islamic fundamentalists and terrorist guys (and girls) can easily enter the country, study here, plan, travel, get citizenships and etc is enough...I mean we let a family into our health care system that openly supports and cheers for terrorism, and we are saving their lives and helping them...?


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This ties in with the other thread (don't remember the name) where we said that all the spies have a Canadian passport because it's accepted everywhere same thing really...

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Originally posted by starsearcher I don't think you need to actually and physically "invade" Canada...just the fact that these islamic fundamentalists and terrorist guys (and girls) can easily enter the country, study here, plan, travel, get citizenships and etc is enough...I mean we let a family into our health care system that openly supports and cheers for terrorism, and we are saving their lives and helping them...?

I totally respect your point, however its difficult to weed out the good regular refuges who really are escaping a despotic regime and start a better life from those who are here to learn/travel/gain citizenship just so they can cause harm. I being one of those refugees who came to this country a long long time ago can attest to the level of success that immigrants can attain. The question is, where do we draw the line? Do we start having a hard line on all immigrants? We raise security yes, but security can only so much, there is no such as perfect security. So if we as a nation still survive as an immigrant attractive nation, we must be willing to accept a level of risk, and be TOLERANT of it.

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Originally posted by drgoodvibe I totally respect your point, however its difficult to weed out the good regular refuges who really are escaping a despotic regime and start a better life from those who are here to learn/travel/gain citizenship just so they can cause harm. I being one of those refugees who came to this country a long long time ago can attest to the level of success that immigrants can attain. The question is, where do we draw the line? Do we start having a hard line on all immigrants? We raise security yes, but security can only so much, there is no such as perfect security. So if we as a nation still survive as an immigrant attractive nation, we must be willing to accept a level of risk, and be TOLERANT of it.

That's true...so the question becomes where DO we draw the line??? How do we maintain the image of a free and acception nation however don't appear as a adoormat that you can easily walk over and whipe your feet on...We need to be a little more tough in some areas otherwise we'll continue to be used and abused.

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The problem is that our government isn't much better than US's...they lie, they are corrupt, they have their own agendas, and there's a lot of useless spending and paperwork pushing going on. I'm sure that everyone can agree with me on that. So the problem really is from within...

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Originally posted by starsearcher That's true...so the question becomes where DO we draw the line??? How do we maintain the image of a free and acception nation however don't appear as a adoormat that you can easily walk over and whipe your feet on...We need to be a little more tough in some areas otherwise we'll continue to be used and abused.

Definitely agree with that.. need to be much tougher, but one must mention that Immigration Canada as a whole is exceedingly tougher then it was in say the late 80's when they'd let just about anybody in, who wanted to come in.

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Originally posted by starsearcher The problem is that our government isn't much better than US's...they lie, they are corrupt, they have their own agendas, and there's a lot of useless spending and paperwork pushing going on. I'm sure that everyone can agree with me on that. So the problem really is from within...

you described every government. Government as a whole is not and can never be perfect. Think about it, take 300,000 people working for a company that services 30,000,000 people. And thats just for a small country like Canada. The task is ENORMOUS. It is so difficult to satisfy all peoples and interest groups that there is even a term for it now. Its called "satisficing". The only way to make all interest groups happy, is to have VERY SLOW INCREMENTAL CHANGE. Its like easily manuevering an oil tanker. Its slow and will take time to change directions.

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Originally posted by cap Actually, Canada is ranked 5th I believe as a "Christian target" to some fanatic groups out there. 1. America 2. Britain 3. Spain 4. Australia 5. Canada.

Yes and the only country that hasnt been attacked or had an attack attempted on it is Canada. Thats scary. We are pretty dumb and naive if we think we are safe.

USA - Sept 11
Britain - Shoe bomber (caught on a plane with a bomb)
Spain - Madrid train bombing
Australia - Bali Nightclub bombing... hundreds of australians dead
Canada - ???????

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Yes and the only country that hasnt been attacked or had an attack attempted on it is Canada. Thats scary. We are pretty dumb and naive if we think we are safe. USA - Sept 11 Britain - Shoe bomber (caught on a plane with a bomb) Spain - Madrid train bombing Australia - Bali Nightclub bombing... hundreds of australians dead Canada - ???????

I don't feel dumb or naive. All of those above countries you mentioned, contributed troops to the war in Iraq. We however, refused to join the US unless the UN went along with it. Why would they attack us? How are we lumped into the same pile as those above countries?

We were in the first gulf war and afghanistan. And afghanistan is where the terrorists were, NOT Iraq.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 We were in the first gulf war and afghanistan. And afghanistan is where the terrorists were, NOT Iraq.

Thanks for the update. But you don't see the terrorists threatening us do you? They're threatening Italy, Korea, Phillipines, guess what, they're all in Iraq right now, they're all taking part in it. You honestly think this has something to do with the Gulf War 10 years ago, and we're somehow next on the list?

No, but afghanistan yes. And in one of Osama's famous speeches he listed canada as a target. Target #5 in the same said list in fact.

So yes i do see terrorist threatening us. We are just too stupid to realize it. Ask any american on sept 10 2001 if it could ever happen there. I hope you now get my point.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 So yes i do see terrorist threatening us. We are just too stupid to realize it. Ask any american on sept 10 2001 if it could ever happen there. I hope you now get my point.

No I don't get your point, but please, spare me the explanation.

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Originally posted by cap ...I'm not saying the USA doesn't have a bad track record, and I'm definitely not saying that Bush is a saint, but everyone seems to base their opinion of America on a few bad leaders. The media emphasizes the evil doings of a few political figures - so everyone, in the safety net that is Canada - establishes a negative view of America. Well, political figures of the USA are about .00000001% of the population. America has it's good aspects and has helped the world in many ways...

I think there's confusion between those of us who dislike the Bush Administration and those who brand us as "hating America/Americans" in general as a result. There isn't even necessarily a connection between those two things.

Who actually hates "America/Americans" in general? I don't think many people do...I don't even hate them for voting in Bush...they have my sympathy though

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Originally posted by tw1tch I don't feel dumb or naive. All of those above countries you mentioned, contributed troops to the war in Iraq. We however, refused to join the US unless the UN went along with it. Why would they attack us? How are we lumped into the same pile as those above countries?

bali bombings were before the iraq war.... so were the "sho bomber"

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Originally posted by MarkT I think there's confusion between those of us who dislike the Bush Administration and those who brand us as "hating America/Americans" in general as a result. There isn't even necessarily a connection between those two things. Who actually hates "America/Americans" in general? I don't think many people do...I don't even hate them for voting in Bush...they have my sympathy though

Exactly... so many ppl are trailing off on that ppl hate America in general.. the beef is with the Bush admin, not the whole country.

And yes, Canada was listed as a target by the Terrorists, and I completely agree with Jayx1.. its a shame that some people wont feel that we mihgt be in danger until after something happens? Thankfully there are precautions being taken to hopefully avoid an attack.

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Originally posted by MarkT ^^^ no no...it's just that they can't tell us what the evidence is or from where they got it...you know, for security reasons...so we should just *trust* them. yeah, right

lol... actually, they did come out and say it... that were "misinformed"... but ur right, we never saw or knew about this evidence that they did have, and just had to "trust" them.

Well, theres another election, if Bush isn't out of office, i'd be VERY surprised

the only "terrorist thread" that i see for the USA(and the whole world) is that dumbass Bush being the president for another 4 years!!!!

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Originally posted by St_Andrew bali bombings were before the iraq war.... so were the "sho bomber"

The iraq war has NOTHING TO DO WITH TERRORISM!

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Originally posted by Jayx1 The iraq war has NOTHING TO DO WITH TERRORISM!

i agree that the iraq war from the beginning had nothing to do with terrorism... BUT now, it has, it has created a lot of it... anyway, i was just correcting his bad logic

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Originally posted by St_Andrew quote: Originally posted by tw1tch quote: Originally posted by Jayx1 Yes and the only country that hasnt been attacked or had an attack attempted on it is Canada. Thats scary. We are pretty dumb and naive if we think we are safe. USA - Sept 11 Britain - Shoe bomber (caught on a plane with a bomb) Spain - Madrid train bombing Australia - Bali Nightclub bombing... hundreds of australians dead Canada - ??????? I don't feel dumb or naive. All of those above countries you mentioned, contributed troops to the war in Iraq. We however, refused to join the US unless the UN went along with it. Why would they attack us? How are we lumped into the same pile as those above countries? bali bombings were before the iraq war.... so were the "sho bomber"

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