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Posted by *InVeRs3* on Aug-04-2004 06:10:

I play Tiesto's Nyana CD1 on speakers at school. Some girl says "uch, let's listen to some real music!!"

The irony is she played Lil' John. As most of us know, Lil John uses fruity loops to make his music and has an education of a perverted 7th grader who's watched too much porn last night.

I'm not hating on hip hop, i love it. I'm hating on hip-pop.

Techno, I can understand that people say it's repetitive.

Trance however.........It's damn technical. It isn't repetitive, it isn't a 3 second loop. It's more complex, deep, emotional than all genres. If you listen to today's rock/rap/pop music, it loops on forever with no changes. How people can say Trance is repetitive boggles my mind.


Posted by Radagast on Aug-04-2004 06:18:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Some Classics

quote:
Originally posted by CJ Slater
Most likely standard synthesizer presets...


No.


Posted by spec on Aug-04-2004 07:33:

Re: Techno and Trance are gay and repetitive

quote:
Suggestions anyone???


Apart from suicide, I'd also recommend getting some new friends because it quite obvious that your yobbo bogan friends, which you probably recently were also, don't understand EDM.

Don't try to paint Australia as some non-dance music country, because it clearly is not, unless you live in the country.


Posted by A.J. on Aug-04-2004 08:23:

If you are in Sydney, listen to nova969 on saturday nights 11-2am to hear the trance show RUSH, hosted by our very own TA Cameron O'Shea (waXology)....it's good.


Posted by Abhay on Aug-04-2004 13:56:

Pirate Radio

U Know...

In high school, my parents practically had me by the nuts...

ALl I coudl do was sit on my desk and STUDY STUDY STUDY. Luckily, someone bought me a small portable radio/light set. Problem is, this thing was only able to pick up FM waves from 85 somthign Hz, to 103.3 Hz....

So I started scanning.... every single station was shit, and never played anything good.... But there was one station, where I just gave up, and left the radio on,... headphones in my ear.... The music sucked....

I kept listenign for 2 hours, this station had the worst reception (if i moved the radio, I lost the reception)... It had no host, just continuous music, looped every 2.5 hours (music changed every 2-4 weeks). I got sick of studying (which I probably wasn't even focussing on anyway), and started focussing on the music.... I heard two tracks which changed my life... One of them is on Tiesto's Magik 6, and the Signum Remix of Oakie's GAmemaster. I stayed up till 4am, not studying.

I found that other than my Hi-Fi, there was nothing out there that I was aware of that could pick up that station.... This was in Grade 9... In Grade 10... that station was gone....

It hit me a few years later, that obviously, that station was dead illegal. SOme prick had probably told the authorities about it, and whoever was managing it is probably looking at the sun through a set of bars now... Which is bullshit, because he wasn't making any money out of the station... THe law in US and AUS is, that if u make entertainment, for profit or non profit, u gotta pay money to the government.... They don't give a fuck how many peopel u entertain throuh ur own pockets.

I wish that station had gone big. I wish whoever had started it had the resources, and backing from sponsors to play the underground trance it did. If it had all that, Trance would've been at a very differnt stage here in Brissi...

I'm still searching for some of the music on that station, it was that good. NOTHING on Radio represents trance. Other than Darude, and DJ Sammy (long gone), nothing on Radio resembles trance.

Hmm..... 102.9FM


Posted by Abhay on Aug-04-2004 14:10:

Re: Re: Techno and Trance are gay and repetitive

quote:
Originally posted by spec
Apart from suicide, I'd also recommend getting some new friends because it quite obvious that your yobbo bogan friends, which you probably recently were also, don't understand EDM.

Don't try to paint Australia as some non-dance music country, because it clearly is not, unless you live in the country.


Australia.... a good dance country... hmmmm .........there are a fair bit of clubs, and people dancing to EDM.... Even I do it... but seriosuly... name one good AUssie DJ, that people on TA will know....

Fuch that.... ask anyone in TA, for a famous musician that they love, that is AUssie.. U should get atleast SOME response then.


Posted by TweeK on Aug-04-2004 16:04:

Funny story Abhay,seem like you had it alot worse than us


Posted by Delay Llama on Aug-04-2004 16:31:

Re: Re: Re: Techno and Trance are gay and repetitive

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
ask anyone in TA, for a famous musician that they love, that is AUssie.. U should get atleast SOME response then.

Adam Freeland?


Posted by NiteMer on Aug-04-2004 16:43:

Re: Re: Re: Techno and Trance are gay and repetitive

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
Australia.... a good dance country... hmmmm .........there are a fair bit of clubs, and people dancing to EDM.... Even I do it... but seriosuly... name one good AUssie DJ, that people on TA will know....

Fuch that.... ask anyone in TA, for a famous musician that they love, that is AUssie.. U should get atleast SOME response then.


Natalie Imbruglia, but that ain't EDM. Kylie Minogue is Aussie too, isn't she? But I didn't know Freeland was, and honestly I can't think of any good dj's/producers from there that are well known. Sample Gee in New Zealand is decent.

"Hey I live in Chicago and its the same SAD story. All I hear on the radio is hip hop and GHETTO House Music. No one in chicago knows of Progressive House, Trance , or ANY EDM!! The clubs play cheesy dance msuic unless they bring in some BIG DJ and charge you $100 to see him/her. The States are horriable musically and artistically!! I think I am going to move to Europe"

As far as that goes, it is because you live in Chicago and all they really like there is gay ass house (Ego case Bad Boy Bill and his cast and crew of jackasses. That assclown wouldn't play here at a huge event at Red Rocks Ampitheatre last year because Paul Van Dyk was gonna be the headliner). Denver actually has a pretty good scene for spectators, it's just a bitch being a dj here, because of the politics. I saw Sander K in Chicago the one time I was there, but I know it is few and far between for good trance and proggy. Miami and LA have good scenes for these genres and I think New York is pretty good. Phoenix is pretty good too. I have heard Austin, TX, of all places, is decent too. So it isn't fair to dismiss all of the American scene. I understand your frustation in Chicago, though, as I have been there, and other than Sander, all the music was shittier than used depends.


Posted by Radagast on Aug-04-2004 16:54:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Techno and Trance are gay and repetitive

quote:
Originally posted by Nite-Mer
(Ego case Bad Boy Bill and his cast and crew of jackasses. That assclown wouldn't play here at a huge event at Red Rocks Ampitheatre last year because Paul Van Dyk was gonna be the headliner).


Wow now I like him even more. He's smarter than I thought.


Posted by NiteMer on Aug-04-2004 17:02:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Techno and Trance are gay and repetitive

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Wow now I like him even more. He's smarter than I thought.


To each his own. I know he is a good dj, but I have no tolerance for ego case dj's. We are all just people that enjoy music and play it for the crowds enjoyment. And when you are gonna get paid $25,000 and you bail because you aren't the headliner. Please. PVD may suck ass sometimes, but he is a way bigger name that BBB.


Posted by AntronVee on Aug-04-2004 17:19:

bad boy bill wouldnt play just cuz pvd was headlining?? lol, no matter how bad pvd is on his worst day bad boy bill can't compare...


Posted by NiteMer on Aug-04-2004 17:36:

quote:
Originally posted by AntronVee
bad boy bill wouldnt play just cuz pvd was headlining?? lol, no matter how bad pvd is on his worst day bad boy bill can't compare...


Agreed. It was for Global Dance last year. And the irony is that he would have headlined anyway, because PVD got that stomach flu and was in the hospital.


Posted by Abhay on Aug-05-2004 09:29:

quote:
Originally posted by TweeK
Funny story Abhay,seem like you had it alot worse than us


Hey... If any of u freaks have seen me in a club, or in a car playing loud music with shitty 4'' speakers don't fucking go telling ppl. My old people will kick me out, and I don't have a license.


Posted by Torley Wong on Aug-05-2004 09:54:

Aussies?

Easy... Luke Chable, Infusion, Nubreed. There's a trifecta right there.

Adam Freeland is popular in the land Down Under but he ain't an Aussie though... he's an Englishman.


Posted by A.J. on Aug-05-2004 10:49:

Anthony Pappa
The Avalanches


There's more aussie dance artists than you realise.

P.S. In case you didn't read my other post, if you live in Sydney (or have a decent internet connection), you can hear RUSH every Saturday on Nova969 playing the latest and greatest in trance. It's hosted by waXology (Cameron O'Shea).


Posted by Abhay on Aug-05-2004 12:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Vigilante
Anthony Pappa
The Avalanches


There's more aussie dance artists than you realise.

P.S. In case you didn't read my other post, if you live in Sydney (or have a decent internet connection), you can hear RUSH every Saturday on Nova969 playing the latest and greatest in trance. It's hosted by waXology (Cameron O'Shea).


Hmmm... u guys do both come from AUstralia... (presumption) I"m talking about people who aren't from AUs. Either way... u gotta admit, trance isn't big here... It may exist, but not like in Europe or overseas, to many of the places I've seen and witnessed myself...

I have a good internet connection, how do I listen in?


Posted by ToF on Aug-05-2004 13:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
Either way... u gotta admit, trance isn't big here... It may exist, but not like in Europe or overseas, to many of the places I've seen and witnessed myself...

its true, trance is not known down here in aust

im about to turn 18 soon so ill prolly wanna be going to some trance clubs but all of my mates have no clue what trance is... all they know is "techno" and they listen to all this cheezy garbage like nick skitz and mos's hard nrgs so they can look cool (especially in their cars). all they want is bass (too look like they are hardcore), they don't like trance because im assuming they think it sounds "girly" or "weak"

thats basically the problem down here, everyone is trying to look cool, they don't really care if the song is shit or if they don't like the music they r listening to, just as long as they look cool.

i really hate this, just wondering if any of the australian TAs ever meet up at clubs or whatever as none of my mates like trance?


Posted by Radagast on Aug-05-2004 14:17:

Bad Boy Bill has more skills than Paul Van Dyk, or any trance DJ for that matter, will ever have.


Posted by Abhay on Aug-05-2004 14:34:

quote:
Originally posted by ToF
its true, trance is not known down here in aust

im about to turn 18 soon so ill prolly wanna be going to some trance clubs but all of my mates have no clue what trance is... all they know is "techno" and they listen to all this cheezy garbage like nick skitz and mos's hard nrgs so they can look cool (especially in their cars). all they want is bass (too look like they are hardcore), they don't like trance because im assuming they think it sounds "girly" or "weak"

thats basically the problem down here, everyone is trying to look cool, they don't really care if the song is shit or if they don't like the music they r listening to, just as long as they look cool.

i really hate this, just wondering if any of the australian TAs ever meet up at clubs or whatever as none of my mates like trance?


I share ur pain.... ... I share ur pain ...


hmmm... read the previous parts of this thread.... THere's an Aussie Thread in TA, and also an Australian trance site...

It's fucking true, all these ******s at school wanted me to burn me some of my music to give them..... I only have them REAL TRANCE. ANd not some of the softer stuff I have, from my Dream Dance CDs (Dreamdance is actually very good, most of the tracks are rare). THe didn't like much of it at all... Hopefully they'll keep listening to it and change, instead of turnign their cars inot something made to look cool....

It's a big problem in aus... trying to look cool, people try to kopy the shit in the American movies they see, and then criticese and hate americans, because they think the US is like in themovies. When I wen to the US, I found that it was less worried about being cool than AUs, where people are desparate to wear lables like FUBU (even thouh they're white), and pay almost twice as much as americans for them.

The reason for all this is simple... AUstralia doesn't have a culture of it's own (c'mon, it's a toddler compared to other nations).... so we copy waht we c on TV.

If u live in Brissi, we could meet up bro... I can sneak out from my concentration camp.... But if u live in another state, I'll see what we can arrange...

It'll be AWESOME if we can get ALL Aussie TAs to meet up.... Maybe pay some mad assed DJ to rock up........ Now THAT would be fucking MAD. basically ANYONE in AUS, who loves trance, can see either high energy uplifitin, yet not too-popular (George Acosta), or deep Hard Proggy (sasha, Digweed)...... That would be fucking mad... DJs prob hate coming here because trance is so small here ....


Posted by TweeK on Aug-05-2004 14:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
I can sneak out from my concentration camp....



LMAO!!!

OMG I DIE!!!!!!!


Posted by NiteMer on Aug-05-2004 15:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Bad Boy Bill has more skills than Paul Van Dyk, or any trance DJ for that matter, will ever have.


That may be. But on the other hand. House house music music is repetitive repetitive. "Bad boy, bad boy bill, bad boy, bad boy bill..."


Posted by AntronVee on Aug-05-2004 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Bad Boy Bill has more skills than Paul Van Dyk, or any trance DJ for that matter, will ever have.


halliwell spins trance and bad boy bill definitely doesn't have anywhere near as much skill as halliwell...


Posted by Torley Wong on Aug-06-2004 00:39:

It's like trying to catch smoke in your hand after puffing it out of a peace pipe.


Posted by Abhay on Aug-06-2004 01:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Nite-Mer
That may be. But on the other hand. House house music music is repetitive repetitive. "Bad boy, bad boy bill, bad boy, bad boy bill..."


BBB was AMerica's most favourite DJ at some stage. BUt he was very unheard of in Europe etc.

He does house? I haven't heard much of his music to be honest.... TEll me a really well-known BBB song.


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