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Posted by trancebrat on Aug-16-2004 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy

ps amber get back on msn. im done my coldshower




I hope it was REALLY cold!


Posted by Orbax on Aug-16-2004 23:27:

If you falter in times of trouble, how small is your strength?

That sucks that when shit gets hard shes ready to ditch your ass in a second.

I know no worse feeling than that of being betrayed. I am sorry.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Aug-16-2004 23:29:

quote:
Originally posted by trancebrat
I hope it was REALLY cold!


trust me
plus i spanked it into the shampoo bottle..feel sorry for whoever is taking the next shower


Posted by WhooCares on Aug-16-2004 23:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
trust me
plus i spanked it into the shampoo bottle..feel sorry for whoever is taking the next shower

lol
...that is just sick!!


Posted by trancebrat on Aug-16-2004 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Did you ever stop to think for a second that the best thing for him might be to realize that, perhaps, the entire world doesn't revolve around his every whim and desire?

His wife thinks they aren't ready for a child and it seems to me like she's damn right. Have you read this thread, or do you just not realize that he's the father, not the baby?



Welcome to the wonderful world of COR. How is it any different than 1/2 of the other threads posted on COR? At least his involves something that makes people think/react. Some poor 15 year old asking how to make Miss Beautiful fall in love with him fails to stimulate my fingers enough to post a response.

I think he is just needing to vent and it is easier to vent to strangers than it is to talk to people that would be directly involved. Friends and family are biased. If you don't like reading about his personal life just move on to the next thread.


Posted by trancebrat on Aug-16-2004 23:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
trust me
plus i spanked it into the shampoo bottle..feel sorry for whoever is taking the next shower



Glad to hear that you relieved yourself of your situation!


Posted by ShadoWolf on Aug-16-2004 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
trust me
plus i spanked it into the shampoo bottle..feel sorry for whoever is taking the next shower



Posted by beats and beeps on Aug-16-2004 23:50:

Re: So my wife came home today . .

quote:
Originally posted by enferno
And tells me she doesn't want the baby.

I'm not against abortion, but if it's MY child, I am sure as hell fucking against it. Now she's saying that she can do whatever she wants, and is threatening to get an abortion . .

what the fuck do i do?


Woah...thats a fucking scary situation...


Posted by WhooCares on Aug-16-2004 23:53:

I bet your heart felt like that tomatoe beaats and beeps has on his sig....


Posted by Ian on Aug-17-2004 00:06:

beat up your best mate just incase the worst happened

or just take a big steaming shit on her face, women are scum nowadays, they may as well feel as shit as we have to cos of their actions, pardon the shit pun


Posted by Mr. Pink on Aug-17-2004 00:21:

Rasta

All i have to say is.....

you have the money

you have the wife that you love with your baby inside of her....

you have stability, and the maturity...



not ready?
when is someone ready?
even if they PLAN on having a first baby no one person is sure of how its going to turn out, of how its going to be.


dude- that kid of yours could be the best thing that has ever happened to the both of you


Posted by Vivid Boy on Aug-17-2004 00:24:

kidnap her..u must


Posted by whiskers on Aug-17-2004 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DiMethGuy
this really just pisses me off for some reason. a woman whom u love with all your heart and soul. you are doing the honorable thing. you have a good job, a house, and are married, then come to kids. how many people knock up chicks and leave. she should be grateful you are so committed and are doing everything right.

like amber said tho i don't see how you can recover. you just found out what kind of woman she really is. obvious not the one who you think you married.



unfortunately, dimethguy is right. i understand the reasons for not wanting to have the child and all, but it seems that enferno's wife wasn't ready for marriage in the first place, not just for having a baby and she's doesn't seem to be handling the situation maturely, at least from what enferno told us.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Aug-17-2004 00:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Pink
All i have to say is.....

you have the money

you have the wife that you love with your baby inside of her....

you have stability, and the maturity...



not ready?
when is someone ready?
even if they PLAN on having a first baby no one person is sure of how its going to turn out, of how its going to be.


dude- that kid of yours could be the best thing that has ever happened to the both of you


beautiful post.... seriously.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Aug-17-2004 00:30:

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
unfortunately, dimethguy is right. i understand the reasons for not wanting to have the child and all, but it seems that enferno's wife wasn't ready for marriage in the first place, not just for having a baby and she's doesn't seem to be handling the situation maturely, at least from what enferno told us.


I thought you were gone forever...


Posted by Arbiter on Aug-17-2004 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by trancebrat
Welcome to the wonderful world of COR. How is it any different than 1/2 of the other threads posted on COR? At least his involves something that makes people think/react. Some poor 15 year old asking how to make Miss Beautiful fall in love with him fails to stimulate my fingers enough to post a response.

I think he is just needing to vent and it is easier to vent to strangers than it is to talk to people that would be directly involved. Friends and family are biased. If you don't like reading about his personal life just move on to the next thread.


You're missing the point. It's not that it's a shit thread (it was interesting enough to read - better than usual for the COR), it's that his attitude towards the whole situation is so overwhelmingly egocentric that I can't really believe he's ready for parenthood.

He's free to vent about whatever problems he feels like he's experiencing here, but it's also an invitation to feedback. My opinion is that he's being a bit of an asshole to his wife and from what I can tell she's probably correct in her assessment anyway, so I made my feelings on the matter pretty clear. That's what you get when you throw your personal life onto the internet. Not everyone's going to agree with you. If he's 1/100th of the way to being mature enough to raise a child, then I don't think he'll have a problem handling that.


Posted by blazed it on Aug-17-2004 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by DiMethGuy
time for a paternal rights revolution. starting with the repeal of roe v. wade.


thats just idiotic, a male should have a say in whether or not there should be a baby, but to take away the right of the mother to legally have abortions is the wrong way to go about it.

I've known women who were impregnated because they had jealous boyfriends prick the condoms, which lead to the pregnancy. and by taking away a womans right to decide whether or not they want the baby is wrong, especially if she had taken precautions not to get pregnant in the first place.


Posted by trancebrat on Aug-17-2004 01:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
You're missing the point. It's not that it's a shit thread (it was interesting enough to read - better than usual for the COR), it's that his attitude towards the whole situation is so overwhelmingly egocentric that I can't really believe he's ready for parenthood.

He's free to vent about whatever problems he feels like he's experiencing here, but it's also an invitation to feedback. My opinion is that he's being a bit of an asshole to his wife and from what I can tell she's probably correct in her assessment anyway, so I made my feelings on the matter pretty clear. That's what you get when you throw your personal life onto the internet. Not everyone's going to agree with you. If he's 1/100th of the way to being mature enough to raise a child, then I don't think he'll have a problem handling that.



I do agree about the invitation for feedback. I don't think his attitude is that bad. He is hurt and upset. I've never been in his shoes (and never will be) so I have no idea how I would react. I know I wouldn't post it on the internet, but to each their own. I would say that almost everyone has done something without thinking and later regreted it.

No one was there when they talked so we don't know what transpired between them. Maybe he was an asshole to her. I would think if he was it would have been after she advised that she wanted to have an abortion. If she thought he was an asshole and didn't want to be with him I'm sure she could have saved them both the trouble of all of this by having already left him before she got pregnant.

Just because you vent to strangers doesn't mean those are the exact words and tone you would use with your spouse. It truly sounds like there is more going than maybe he is even aware of.


Posted by enferno on Aug-17-2004 01:19:

i have a friend that is a doctor, and had my wife go to him today. they got a dna test done on the fetus, and it is mine.

now she is really pissed at me for not believing her that it is my kid.

still lost as to why she would do this


Posted by Lira on Aug-17-2004 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by enferno
i have a friend that is a doctor, and had my wife go to him today. they got a dna test done on the fetus, and it is mine.

now she is really pissed at me for not believing her that it is my kid.

still lost as to why she would do this

Now this wasn't a good thing to do/happen at all.



By the way, I still think that, if it were for anyone here to chose, it should be the baby. Since (s)he's unable to answer, give the child the benefit of the doubt. Killing is wrong in most cases.


Posted by idoru on Aug-17-2004 01:38:

quote:
Originally posted by trancebrat
It isn't like he has the ultimate decision because obviously he doesn't. She could just leave him and go have an abortion. I am a woman and I still think that is fucked up. I have seen it happen to a male friend of mine. He was so devastated that he was never the same again. They too were married. He was so excited that they were going to have a baby. Yes he was scared, but he was excited. She decided she wasn't ready and went and had an abortion. Of course they are divorced now. He felt violated and rightfully so. It was like saying "I love you, but not enough to have a child with you". It doesn't matter how stupid that may sound to you...that is how he felt. If she didn't want to have children "right then" she should have taken the necessary precautions to prevent it. It shouldn't be something that you are thinking about after the fact. Enferno and his wife weren't two single people just fucking around. They are married. When you get married you have made a vow to that other person. Your lives have joined as one. He has just as much rights to have that baby. She isn't a child and she knew damn well what she was doing each time they had sex. I'm sorry but saying that now just isn't a good time just doesn't fly with me. I am not trying to take sides here, but if I had to I would definitely be on Enferno's side. Sorry to state the obvious, but how the hell does your relationship recover after something like this?


I agree.

Hope this works out for ya', Enferno.


Posted by Seakr on Aug-17-2004 04:08:

Love

this is your wife, the one woman you chose because you felt trust enough in her to stand by you through thick and thin. that in all situations you both could support one another to move on, find strength, and even overcome and feel joy in this crazy world.

there is no way around the subject of abortion. if she decides to do this she WILL be KILLING the child that is growing inside her womb at this moment, made of your flesh and her own. imagine the pure joy this child will bring you. ask her to ask her own parents what they feel about her. im sure they will say that not a day goes by where they dont feel blessed that she herself was born into their lives.

please be strong. i will pray for you. Our Lord is the Overcomer. The book of Isaiah says that "No weapon formed against me shall prosper". right now your home, and your child is under attack. the enemy is in her head. bro, i reach out to you, and i care. im gonna tell you the Lord loves you, and even if you dont believe that, believe that i love you. a complete stranger. i will pray for you. God bless your family.


Posted by Mr. Pink on Aug-17-2004 04:12:

Rasta

So I mentioned this situation to my girlfriend tonight...


and she said that when a woman finds out she is pregnant it's not only the fact that she's going to bring in a baby into the world, but also the idea that all of her dreams and goals (career wise + whatever else) are now changed forever.......


That could be why she wants the abortion- because she is afraid of this drastic change. But fear was never a reason to run- instead, and yes this is lame because its said all the time, you must face your fear...

if having a baby isn't scary, i dont know what is.

WHo invented the rule book for parenting, cuz i dont think there is one........its all done on a wim....and its all improvised. Sure there is a direction you want to follow, but the details are all a blur.

Your wife is caught in a place where she doesnt know what she wants- maybe you should show her that its not only what you or she wants- but what the 3 of you want...what your baby wants.


it's not a matter of you two anymore because you have a 3rd life to decide on. Is this baby such a burden that it has to be killed, can it not be put up for adoption....and if you would NEVER have your baby put up for adoption, why on earth would you have your baby killed?

fact is: this is a real world with real consequences. If you have a "second" kid.....you're going to wonder what that first kid would have been like...... you're going to always wonder who he/she would have become and what your baby could have learned from you....most importantly, what you could have learned from your baby.

In the end, all i can say is:
The right decision is not the selfish decision


Posted by Rodrico on Aug-17-2004 04:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Pink
So I mentioned this situation to my girlfriend tonight...


and she said that when a woman finds out she is pregnant it's not only the fact that she's going to bring in a baby into the world, but also the idea that all of her dreams and goals (career wise + whatever else) are now changed forever.......


That could be why she wants the abortion- because she is afraid of this drastic change. But fear was never a reason to run- instead, and yes this is lame because its said all the time, you must face your fear...

if having a baby isn't scary, i dont know what is.

WHo invented the rule book for parenting, cuz i dont think there is one........its all done on a wim....and its all improvised. Sure there is a direction you want to follow, but the details are all a blur.

Your wife is caught in a place where she doesnt know what she wants- maybe you should show her that its not only what you or she wants- but what the 3 of you want...what your baby wants.


it's not a matter of you two anymore because you have a 3rd life to decide on. Is this baby such a burden that it has to be killed, can it not be put up for adoption....and if you would NEVER have your baby put up for adoption, why on earth would you have your baby killed?

fact is: this is a real world with real consequences. If you have a "second" kid.....you're going to wonder what that first kid would have been like...... you're going to always wonder who he/she would have become and what your baby could have learned from you....most importantly, what you could have learned from your baby.

In the end, all i can say is:
The right decision is not the selfish decision


That was deep man...real deep.


Posted by trancebrat on Aug-17-2004 04:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Pink
So I mentioned this situation to my girlfriend tonight...


and she said that when a woman finds out she is pregnant it's not only the fact that she's going to bring in a baby into the world, but also the idea that all of her dreams and goals (career wise + whatever else) are now changed forever.......


That could be why she wants the abortion- because she is afraid of this drastic change. But fear was never a reason to run- instead, and yes this is lame because its said all the time, you must face your fear...

if having a baby isn't scary, i dont know what is.

WHo invented the rule book for parenting, cuz i dont think there is one........its all done on a wim....and its all improvised. Sure there is a direction you want to follow, but the details are all a blur.

Your wife is caught in a place where she doesnt know what she wants- maybe you should show her that its not only what you or she wants- but what the 3 of you want...what your baby wants.


it's not a matter of you two anymore because you have a 3rd life to decide on. Is this baby such a burden that it has to be killed, can it not be put up for adoption....and if you would NEVER have your baby put up for adoption, why on earth would you have your baby killed?

fact is: this is a real world with real consequences. If you have a "second" kid.....you're going to wonder what that first kid would have been like...... you're going to always wonder who he/she would have become and what your baby could have learned from you....most importantly, what you could have learned from your baby.

In the end, all i can say is:
The right decision is not the selfish decision



Much love for you Javi. Regardless of the content I still enjoyed reading that.



EDIT: Meaning regardless that it had to do with abortion.


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