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Posted by NiteMer on Sep-10-2004 22:56:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Amidst all the Tijs-bashing, which I still feel needs to end, I do have to say... Well-said!

I'm done bashing. It's really not supposed to be bashing, but I know that's the way I presented it. I will make an effort to cut that shit out. I understand the annoyment. I just get so frustrated with the ego these guys have, when they should appreciate what they have and the opportunities they get. I think I express my frustration wrong sometimes.

Posted by sensorium on Sep-10-2004 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
Yes but Dido never became a crap singer or put a half effort in, she could sell any CD she wanted really.

Agree with you on that. But that has nothing to do with the topic here.

Posted by idoru on Sep-10-2004 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Nite-Mer
I'm done bashing. It's really not supposed to be bashing, but I know that's the way I presented it. I will make an effort to cut that shit out. I understand the annoyment. I just get so frustrated with the ego these guys have, when they should appreciate what they have and the opportunities they get. I think I express my frustration wrong sometimes.

I understand where you're coming from, and I have no problem with that. What I said wasn't directed at just you, but rather a lot of people here. Anyways...

I don't think that most artists get a big ego when they get ranked high on the DJ Mag list. I've heard a ton of reports about Tijs being really humble in person lately. I can count on one hand the amount of negative reports I've heard about his interaction with fans over the course of five-years. I also think that people expect way too much of DJs when they become number one on a silly contest.

In my opinion, Tiësto is doing what he's always done. Now, I'm a total Tijs-whore, but I respect the opinions of you all, and am the first to say that his mixing has slipped a bit in the past year. But that's beside the point.

What I'm trying to say is that when a DJ hits number one, everybody expects him to keep throwing out "OMG CHOON" or "OMG SWEET MIX" night-after-night, song-after-song. Yet when the DJs simply continue to do what they've always done, and not push the bar, they get insulted.

And don't tell me that, "Oh, he's number one, he should always be producing quality stuff." When you're number one, you're expected to tour more often, do more publicity stunts, etc., and you don't have any time for being able to sit down and relax.

What people need to do is say "Fuck DJ Mag, all it is is a big popularity contest."

/My two-cents.

Posted by NiteMer on Sep-10-2004 23:18:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
I understand where you're coming from, and I have no problem with that. What I said wasn't directed at just you, but rather a lot of people here. Anyways...

I don't think that most artists get a big ego when they get ranked high on the DJ Mag list. I've heard a ton of reports about Tijs being really humble in person lately. I can count on one hand the amount of negative reports I've heard about his interaction with fans over the course of five-years. I also think that people expect way too much of DJs when they become number one on a silly contest.

In my opinion, Tiësto is doing what he's always done. Now, I'm a total Tijs-whore, but I respect the opinions of you all, and am the first to say that his mixing has slipped a bit in the past year. But that's beside the point.

What I'm trying to say is that when a DJ hits number one, everybody expects him to keep throwing out "OMG CHOON" or "OMG SWEET MIX" night-after-night, song-after-song. Yet when the DJs simply continue to do what they've always done, and not push the bar, they get insulted.

And don't tell me that, "Oh, he's number one, he should always be producing quality stuff." When you're number one, you're expected to tour more often, do more publicity stunts, etc., and you don't have any time for being able to sit down and relax.

What people need to do is say "Fuck DJ Mag, all it is is a big popularity contest."

/My two-cents.

I agree. As my co-worker would say, "When you're number one, someone's always trying to take you down." There's a lot of pressure, and there is no way to gauge who the best dj is, that comes down to opinion. There are a lot of quality dj's from a lot of different genres. Those polls are more "popularity contests" as you said, which really don't mean shit. I just want dj's to give their all every time. I understand mistakes, we all make them. It just seems like some of the bigger guys get lazy about it. Oakie is a prime example. He really is the forefather of Trance, IMO. He always brings good tracks, but he started to not care as much (get too fucked up, lazy, whatever). It annoys me, because they don't respect what they have. Were I to ever get big, which is doubtful due to the politics of this industry and my unwillingness to kiss ass, I would hope that I would appreciate it and continue to try and bring my best to every crowd that watches me.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-11-2004 08:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DiMethGuy
yeah dude your a tard if u think this a bandwagon thing. I have every Tiesto CD...mad signed shit...Tiesto Shirts...on and on. Maybe people miss the old tiesto who was humble and cared about his music, not his ego. He's fucking making Oakenfold look like a zit faced 8th grader when it comes to ego complex.

the bandwagon is the ppl like u who think this shit looks good and think all that tiesto touches is gold. kettle officially called black, Mr. Poopsicle

Maybe, just maybe, if you actually read what I've said on this thread you just might understand where I'm trying to get at. But no, it's more fun to fling around false accusations and first grader "insults".

Well played.

Posted by Torley Wong on Sep-12-2004 02:21:

I don't think there's a need to make inflammatory comments or otherwise personal attacks on people who like Tiesto, or people who dislike Tiesto. Both ways. It's downright stupid and doesn't add to the worth of a thread in increasing the level of friendly, helpful discussion to those who are interested.

It's fine to reason out one's opinions for like or dislike politely while realizing that since we are different people, we listen to different music in different ways. It is a very simple and fundamental thing. Doesn't this sound ridiculous:

A: "WHAT'S UR FAVORITE COLOR?"
B: "BLUE OF COURSE? WHAT'S YOURS?"
A: "RED!"
B: "WTF?!? OMG U SUX0R BLUE IS A L3MUR COLOR, U SUCK!!!"

People eat different food, drive different automobiles -- or don't drive at all and choose to bike -- and while we're all human, each of us makes choices that are right for "me". Not for someone else, but for you. You're entitled to that as long as it doesn't infringe or oppose or ruin someone else's quality to enjoy... uh... a DJ?!?

Instead of repetitively bashing Tiesto like a badly-programmed character in a computer game having a spazzy polygon collision with the "wall", consider this: would it not be better for one to speak well of the artists he or she DOES like? One may have already mentioned he hates Tiesto once, twice, thrice... whatever. Redundant.

Besides, by saying "i hate TIESTO TIESTO TIESTO he sucks", all you're doing is being a virtually ambulatory adboard for him and racking up Google hits for him... for FREE! You've become the very thing you claim to hate. You really wanna do that? The very mention of his name can get those people not familiar with him (yet) curious. Oh lookee, you've just helped Tiesto win a few more fans! Imploding psychology.

Such REDUNDANCY is disappointing. We all make mistakes, but we've got to learn. Why make more problems for the human race? This is music.

You listen to what you like to listen to.

Posted by sweetcandy girl on Sep-12-2004 02:31:

WHOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOO!!!

I can not wait untill this CD comes to the US!!

YAY!!!

Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-12-2004 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Torley Wong
I don't think there's a need to make inflammatory comments or otherwise personal attacks on people who like Tiesto, or people who dislike Tiesto. Both ways. It's downright stupid and doesn't add to the worth of a thread in increasing the level of friendly, helpful discussion to those who are interested.

It's fine to reason out one's opinions for like or dislike politely while realizing that since we are different people, we listen to different music in different ways. It is a very simple and fundamental thing. Doesn't this sound ridiculous:

A: "WHAT'S UR FAVORITE COLOR?"
B: "BLUE OF COURSE? WHAT'S YOURS?"
A: "RED!"
B: "WTF?!? OMG U SUX0R BLUE IS A L3MUR COLOR, U SUCK!!!"

People eat different food, drive different automobiles -- or don't drive at all and choose to bike -- and while we're all human, each of us makes choices that are right for "me". Not for someone else, but for you. You're entitled to that as long as it doesn't infringe or oppose or ruin someone else's quality to enjoy... uh... a DJ?!?

Instead of repetitively bashing Tiesto like a badly-programmed character in a computer game having a spazzy polygon collision with the "wall", consider this: would it not be better for one to speak well of the artists he or she DOES like? One may have already mentioned he hates Tiesto once, twice, thrice... whatever. Redundant.

Besides, by saying "i hate TIESTO TIESTO TIESTO he sucks", all you're doing is being a virtually ambulatory adboard for him and racking up Google hits for him... for FREE! You've become the very thing you claim to hate. You really wanna do that? The very mention of his name can get those people not familiar with him (yet) curious. Oh lookee, you've just helped Tiesto win a few more fans! Imploding psychology.

Such REDUNDANCY is disappointing. We all make mistakes, but we've got to learn. Why make more problems for the human race? This is music.

You listen to what you like to listen to.

LOL POST OF THE YEAR!!!....CLASSIC...LOL

Posted by [ groovypants ] on Sep-12-2004 05:55:

Fucking good post Torley!

I'd have to agree... hehe post of the year

Posted by beats and beeps on Sep-12-2004 06:10:

quote:
Originally posted by [ groovypants ]
Fucking good post Torley!

I'd have to agree... hehe post of the year

haha, post of the year is like a daily thing for him.

Posted by Dave Piazza on Sep-12-2004 07:02:

Posted by Torley Wong on Sep-12-2004 07:36:

Thank you graciously, I am pleased to be of service.

Life is short, "be fun".

Dave Piazza: Thanks for letting me know. Commentary is a very spontaneous -- and volatile -- thing for me that comes forth when I least expect it. A compulsion that I have only moderate control over, otherwise the trains in my head don't run on time; so I must apologize in advance and hope for your understanding. That being said, I will see if I can tune in.

Posted by sandstorm03 on Sep-12-2004 07:55:

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-12-2004 14:35:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03

tiesto must be stoped!

You must be stopped too. Repeating old jokes (that you didn't even make up yourself) isn't funny.

Posted by Minhaj on Sep-12-2004 15:45:

cant wait to get this CD

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