9/11 Tribute Thread Closed WHY!!!!!

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Posted by rainbow_marble on Sep-12-2004 19:31:

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
No need to dishonour their memory, right? Why don't you let them rest in peace?

The problem with your "tribute"-thread is that is draws forth some lives as more important than others, and that is why you are probably going to have a hard time drumming up enthusiasm.
Why didn't you make a thread on the anniversary of the invasion of Afghanistan? Or Iraq? Didn't the loads of people killed in those places warrant a mention from you?
I have a very negative impression of you, so maybe I am wrong on this one, but so far you seem to be very much a person who values US lives (and even comfort) much higher than the well-being of people in the rest of the world. I am (of course) ready to be corrected by a clear-cut link.
But if I am right, then please go away.

ROFL

Posted by JM on Sep-12-2004 22:47:

you know that you can start your own thread, then close it so nobody can post in it. i did that about a week ago, with the "4 More Years" Thread that way all the libs couldn't bash it, and i got a quick point accross.

>JM<

Posted by JM on Sep-12-2004 22:51:

i congratulate you. i did the same thing with a thread ::: read^^

>JM<

quote:
Originally posted by policerobots
Wow I was only gone for a day and this there has been much flame about the thread.

So now I will answer the question.

Who closed the thread? I did. I made it and closed it within minutes. Because the other day in the library, I was reading something about 9/11, when this guy came up to me, and said "you guys deserved it" I hit him in the face and left.

Made me pissed for the next few hours, and looking at how simple threads on these boards can turn into hellholes where people goatfuck each others comments, i closed it so no crap like "you deserved it", "its bushs fault" comes up. it was just a simple thing for someone to view and reflect on throughout the day.

so there, answers your questions.
Meanwhile, someone coulda just made another one anyways!

(im still somewhat troubled as how I can close it but can reopen it. ????)

Posted by torontotrance on Sep-12-2004 22:53:

I don't see why it has be involving the American government, politics is politics and if it applies here then so be it. I feel that the 9.11 thread applies to this forum, not just because of the American Gov't, if affected a lot of governments and influenced politics in a lot of countries. Politics was behind Bin Laden's decision, not just hate. I'm not asking for the danish guy to love America, I never said that, I'm saying let the Americans mourn the lost of their disasters. In Canada, we still mark the anniversary of Marc Lepine's rampage of killing at the Polytechnical school in Montreal, so should we forget that because it happened many years ago? should we stop talking about it? I still think it applies to politics and that's the forum's title and point. That crime continues to have people going against my government to toughen some laws, that's politics.

Posted by BadBadNeil on Sep-13-2004 00:48:

even though the thread poster closed his own topic, I still think it doesn't invalidate the discussions that were had in this thread. We saw the points of views that everyone had on the situation and where everyone stands along with the reasons for their choosing.

Posted by sensorium on Sep-13-2004 01:00:

Psshf, what a waste of posts. This just goes to show how sensitive some people are.

Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-13-2004 01:12:

quote:
Originally posted by ierxium
Psshf, what a waste of posts. This just goes to show how sensitive some people are.

Ya well maybe if you lost friends that day (like i did).or maybe if you saw with your own eyes planes attacking your city and then buildings crumbling to the floor running for your life thinking you are going to die and there is no other way out, watching grown men weep, people jumping from the 90th floor of buildings to their death like i did and not on television you would have a tad more compassion...but you didnt..while you were sleeping on the west coast this is what i personally experinced...

Posted by sensorium on Sep-13-2004 01:26:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
Ya well maybe if you lost friends that day (like i did).or maybe if you saw with your own eyes planes attacking your city and then buildings crumbling to the floor running for your life thinking you are going to die and there is no other way out, watching grown men weep, people jumping from the 90th floor of buildings to their death like i did and not on television you would have a tad more compassion...but you didnt..while you were sleeping on the west coast this is what i personally experinced...

(1) Buildings can be replaced.
(2) People shouldn't be afraid to die.
(3) A weep every now and then is good for the soul, if you happen to have one.
(4) Who said I didn't have compassion for those who decided to throw themselves from high above and end their lives because there was no other choice?
(5) I wasn't sleeping when the attacks happened.
(6) It was your city, tomorrow it might be mines.
(7) Nothing wrong with the west coast.
(8) You're not the only person that lost friends that day.
(9) My condolences a day late.
(10) I was talking about how some people started making unnecessary comments about the closing of the thread.
(11) Don't take it personal.

Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-13-2004 01:29:

quote:
Originally posted by ierxium
(1) Buildings can be replaced
(2) People shouldn't be afraid to die.
(3) A weep every now and then is good for the soul, if you happen to have one.
(4) Who said I did have compassion for those who decided to throw themselves from high above?
(5) I wasn't sleeping when the attacks happened.
(6) It was your city, tomorrow it might be mines.
(7) Nothing wrong with the west coast.
(8) You're not the only person that lost friends that day.
(9) My condolences a day late.
(10) I was talking about how some people started making unnecessary comments about the closing of the thread.
(11) Don't take it personal.

OK fair enough...hey next time you come to New York City you should give me a call...i would love to take you clubbing or something...you seem really cool...so MAKE SURE you contact me if you are ever close to NYC....i think we would really hit it off!!!!

Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-13-2004 01:36:

quote:
Originally posted by ierxium
(1) Buildings can be replaced.

Not the WTC...you don't live in NYC so you wont know.

quote:
Originally posted by ierxium
(2) People shouldn't be afraid to die..

Really?...OK let me put a nickel plated tech 9 to your temple and see how brave you are!...Matter fact i know some guys in the South Bronx that would help you change your views on that...

quote:
Originally posted by ierxium
(6) It was your city, tomorrow it might be mines..

Ha...let me tell you something...New Yorkers are known for their attitudes..but i assure you with your comments on 9.11 people would fuck you up and down 7th Avenue.

Posted by sensorium on Sep-13-2004 02:57:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
Not the WTC...you don't live in NYC so you wont know.

Really?...OK let me put a nickel plated tech 9 to your temple and see how brave you are!...Matter fact i know some guys in the South Bronx that would help you change your views on that...

Ha...let me tell you something...New Yorkers are known for their attitudes..but i assure you with your comments on 9.11 people would fuck you up and down 7th Avenue.

Again with the numbers:
(1) I was trying to say that buildings are of little importance and can be replaced. Other things needed more attention, like the lives for example.
(2) It's not a matter of been brave but knowing that you will not live forever and that ANY day you might die by any cause. Here is where one should be thankful for living each day.
(3) Trust me, California has some cities similar to the South Brox.
(4) they might fuck me up in New York? and your inviting me? I'm starting to suspect something here.
(5) I've seen people fight against each other firsthand because of race, people getting jumped to join a gang, guys stabbing each other not noticing any type of authority. I have had some taste of that and more. I do go out every now and then.
(6) You should know that scaring a person is not a good way to change the way of thinking.

Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-13-2004 03:09:

quote:
Originally posted by ierxium
Again with the numbers:
(1) I was trying to say that buildings are of little importance and can be replaced. Other things needed more attention, like the lives for example.
(2) It's not a matter of been brave but knowing that you will not live forever and that ANY day you might die by any cause. Here is where one should be thankful for living each day.
(3) Trust me, California has some cities similar to the South Brox.
(4) they might fuck me up in New York? and your inviting me? I'm starting to suspect something here.
(5) I've seen people fight against each other firsthand because of race, people getting jumped to join a gang, guys stabbing each other not noticing any type of authority. I have had some taste of that and more. I do go out every now and then.
(6) You should know that scaring a person is not a good way to change the way of thinking.

Ya whatever...your double talking now....gimme a call when you come to NYC surfer boy.

Posted by sensorium on Sep-13-2004 03:24:

Haha, I don't doubletalk. Never. Where'd you get that from? You should know I can't surf or swim.

Posted by Massive84 on Sep-13-2004 04:35:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
Not the WTC...you don't live in NYC so you wont know.

isn't America already replacing?

Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-13-2004 05:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
isn't America already replacing?

No...they are not rebuilding the Twin Towers aka World Trade Center. Instead they are building a half ass memorial building they are calling the Freedom Tower, which is taller.

NYC should rebuild the Twin Towers as they were and then plant the United Nations on the top floor...and then see how much shit they talk.

Posted by trancaholic on Sep-13-2004 05:57:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
I don't see why it has be involving the American government, politics is politics and if it applies here then so be it. I feel that the 9.11 thread applies to this forum, not just because of the American Gov't, if affected a lot of governments and influenced politics in a lot of countries. Politics was behind Bin Laden's decision, not just hate.
...
I still think it applies to politics and that's the forum's title and point. That crime continues to have people going against my government to toughen some laws, that's politics.

Agree, now if only the thread had been "How did the attacks on Spetember 11th change politics around the world", then you would have a point. As it stood that was not the point of the thread though.

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
I'm not asking for the danish guy to love America, I never said that, I'm saying let the Americans mourn the lost of their disasters.

Danish guy replies: I do like the US and its citizens. I would react in the same manner had the attack been on any other country in the world (including Denmark).

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
In Canada, we still mark...

Wtf? How does that go along:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
You just don't get it because no one attacked your country...

You can understand, despite not being an US citizen, but not me?

Anyway, back on track:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
...the anniversary of Marc Lepine's rampage of killing at the Polytechnical school in Montreal, so should we forget that because it happened many years ago? should we stop talking about it?

I don't know if you're only skimming my posts hastily, but if you read them in full, you would notice that I am not asking anyone to forget anything. I'm saying that having a "tribute"-thread IMO is a mockery and it cheapens the events. Forgetting implies no tribute. No tribute does not imply forgetting. Basic logics.
Neither am I advocating that Americans should stop talking about their feelings on this topic. But there is no point in discussing them on an international web board. And when that web board even provides local forums, the decision to post it here seems dubious.

Posted by ogvh5150 on Sep-13-2004 11:10:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
No...they are not rebuilding the Twin Towers aka World Trade Center. Instead they are building a half ass memorial building they are calling the Freedom Tower, which is taller.

NYC should rebuild the Twin Towers as they were and then plant the United Nations on the top floor...and then see how much shit they talk.

It should be noted that the House of Rockefeller had a hand in selecting the future home of the WTC. They also helped select the future home of the United Nations.

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