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Posted by NiteMer on Sep-13-2004 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
No, my beliefs are based on observation, experience, and logic. Religious beliefs, in contrast, are based on the baseless acceptance of religious dogma.

In my case, the belief is derived from empirical data and valid induction or deduction - by definition it is not "blind" because it is derived from observation. When it comes to religion, no such empirical evidence exists and the associated logic is invariably invalid.

If you feel my reasoning is wrong then why don't you raise a logically valid objection to it instead of throwing around pointless non sequiturs like usual?

Do you know what the odds of life on Earth are? If you don't believe that something is out there that you cannot understand (A supernatural force or God, you choose), you are foolish. The odds of this all to exist the way it does by chance is infinitesmily small.

Posted by DJ_Bod on Sep-13-2004 15:31:

Name that Tune (plus it's content is appropriate for this topic):

"Sex is natural
Sex is good
Not Everybody does it
But everybody should.

Sex is natural
Sex is fun
Sex is best when it's one on one."

Posted by Slylee on Sep-13-2004 15:35:

i'm ashamed that i know it's george michael...

Posted by UWM on Sep-13-2004 15:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
that's assuming you can get laid...

Posted by DJ_Bod on Sep-13-2004 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
i'm ashamed that i know it's george michael...

How do you think I felt writing it (errrr.... typing it)

Posted by TOR on Sep-13-2004 15:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Nite-Mer
odds

that's the key word in your post. you're basing your views on a possibility, but there is no way to be absolutely certain there is indeed something/-one out there.

if anyone is foolish, it's you for believing in the existence of a supernatural entity with "odds" as the only thing to back up that belief.

as for having premarital sex, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever not to.

Posted by NiteMer on Sep-13-2004 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by TOR
that's the key word in your post. you're basing your views on a possibility, but there is no way to be absolutely certain there is indeed something/-one out there.

if anyone is foolish, it's you for believing in the existence of a supernatural entity with "odds" as the only thing to back up that belief.

as for having premarital sex, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever not to.

There are several reasons, and I really don't want to get into a two hour debate about it. I respect everyone's views, regardless. You believe what you believe, and I'll do the same. Neither of us will know for sure until we die. And if you're right, we won't know, cause it'll just end.

Posted by voodoochild on Sep-13-2004 16:21:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Bod
Name that Tune (plus it's content is appropriate for this topic):

"Sex is natural
Sex is good
Not Everybody does it
But everybody should.

Sex is natural
Sex is fun
Sex is best when it's one on one."

Damn it!!!! It is finally clear to me why I couldn't let go of the George Michael tapes I have carried around on 4 moves..... he sure is profound !!!

hmmmm..... George Michael RULES and as of this very moment, I vow to do it as often as I want....Doh! I meant as often as I can....

Posted by UWM on Sep-13-2004 16:27:

I fully support the concept of premarital sex.

Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-13-2004 16:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
that's assuming you can get laid...

ouch hahaha...

but seriously...nothing wrong with fuckin'

Posted by Slylee on Sep-13-2004 16:38:

This thread is really just about religion. If you are a serious Christian/religious person then it�s a given that you are against it. But if you aren�t religious at all and/or just �spiritual�, I don�t see anything wrong with engaging in premarital sex, just as long as you don�t screw anything that walks, or hurt people while doing it (emotionally). As long as it�s in a loving relationship, I think it�s fine. It all just boils down to whether or not you have morals I guess.

Posted by igottaknow on Sep-13-2004 16:38:

If you don't plan on getting married how can the sex be "premarital"?

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
that's assuming you can get laid...

Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-13-2004 16:39:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
If you don't plan on getting married how can the sex be "premarital"?

Posted by Slylee on Sep-13-2004 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
If you don't plan on getting married how can the sex be "premarital"?

hey not all of us plan on having relationships with our right hands for the rest of our lives...

Posted by UWM on Sep-13-2004 16:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
hey not all of us plan on having relationships with our right hands for the rest of our lives...

Yeah, I remember you telling me about how you were cheating with lefty ...

Posted by cviper on Sep-13-2004 16:50:

I'll just quote an advertisment we've got here in sweden (translated):

"Sex is good for your health. Have more."

That pretty much sums it up.

Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-13-2004 16:53:

quote:
Originally posted by cviper
I'll just quote an advertisment we've got here in sweden (translated):

"Sex is good for your health. Have more."

That pretty much sums it up.

i love sweden...gorgeous women...and they know sex is good for them!! it's what dr. floorfiller ordered

Posted by Slylee on Sep-13-2004 16:55:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Yeah, I remember you telling me about how you were cheating with lefty ...

doo doom TSHHHH!

what is this, one liner day?

Posted by UWM on Sep-13-2004 16:56:

No need to mask your love for me with sarcastic remarks.

Posted by TOR on Sep-13-2004 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
hey not all of us plan on having relationships with our right hands for the rest of our lives...

so now getting married is a requirement if you want to be with someone for the rest of your life?

Posted by igottaknow on Sep-13-2004 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by TOR
so now getting married is a requirement if you want to be with someone for the rest of your life?

i was thinking the same thing. what gives "lefty"?

Posted by UWM on Sep-13-2004 17:06:

quote:
Originally posted by TOR
so now getting married is a requirement if you want to be with someone for the rest of your life?

Well, it isn't a requirement per s�, but it makes sense for several reasons.

Posted by TOR on Sep-13-2004 17:10:

yeah, i can think of several reasons too, but her post makes it seem as though getting married is the only logical thing to do when you love someone.

Posted by Slylee on Sep-13-2004 17:16:

no, you don't have to get married at all. i'm pretty mixed about it myself. even though it�s romantic to think about a beautiful wedding, I think that once the big day came around, I would be freaking out thinking, �oh my god, this is it...you�re DONE�!

Posted by NiteMer on Sep-13-2004 18:05:

Going lefty's not nearly as good as righty. I've tried. I know.

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