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Posted by Q5echo on Sep-16-2004 03:18:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
and yes I do care about that country and I care for all the other countries that are suffering in the world.


if you truly believe that. then it is my opinion, that you must give peace a chance through occupation. why? because there is no alternative. i challenge you to give me one. because there are people in that country, right now, who have no problem vaporizing as many fellow Muslems as they feel necessary to bring back another totalitarian regime. they have the explosives and the will provided by the Quran to make it so. and the fact is that they are a small MINORITY. the fact is they do not speak for the majority.

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If this was a war based on solid facts and not about America making more money from the middle east


you mean taking money from the Middle East? because i'll tell ya that its a free market out there. The greater Middle East has plenty of cash. ask the Russians. ask the French. everyone does business with everybody. Egypt hasn't done too bad. we give billions to them. more than any other middle eastern country. Saudi Arabia isn't complaining. Lybia wants to become something more than it's history.
Iraq should be no different. hell, Iraq has the potential to be greater than all the Middle East. would you complain then?


Posted by hardcore trancer on Sep-16-2004 03:21:

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Originally posted by hooknife
That shit is dangerous over there if you have not noticed. Here is an idea.....If I dont want to die for your job maybe you should not go to Iraq right now to work. Oh yeah.....your mother land really fucking sucks and I know where you're REALLY from and it aint Canada. Go home terrorist and die for your piece of shit cause!


^^^ A classical example of a stupid trailer trash American.


Posted by TRANCEEEE on Sep-16-2004 03:25:

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Originally posted by Q5echo
lets be honest dude. you don't give a rats ass if that country stands up or falls on its face, do you?

you just want American soldiers to die. right?

listen, i really don't care what you think about the soldiers.
i just want you to be honest.



get out of iraq or DIE ... simple


Posted by Q5echo on Sep-16-2004 03:28:

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Originally posted by TRANCEEEE
get out of iraq or DIE ... simple

okay great we know your opinion on Iraq. thanks


Posted by TRANCEEEE on Sep-16-2004 03:31:

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Originally posted by Q5echo
okay great we know your opinion on Iraq. thanks


wowwww ... two posts and you finally understood a couple of words ... i'd say run for presidency, bush is a confused little fuck he needs help !


Posted by Q5echo on Sep-16-2004 03:39:

kthx


Posted by hardcore trancer on Sep-16-2004 03:40:

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Originally posted by Q5echo
if you truly believe that. then it is my opinion, that you must give peace a chance through occupation. why? because there is no alternative. i challenge you to give me one. because there are people in that country, right now, who have no problem vaporizing as many fellow Muslems as they feel necessary to bring back another totalitarian regime. they have the explosives and the will provided by the Quran to make it so. and the fact is that they are a small MINORITY. the fact is they do not speak for the majority.


lets think here,if the US didnt invade Iraq in the first place you wouldnt get all these so called terrorists blowing shit up,Saddam was a bad leader but he would've never let things like this happen in the country.
Iam sure Iraqi's love the idea of being occupied by the Amercican right?I mean who wouldnt want that?



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you mean taking money from the Middle East? because i'll tell ya that its a free market out there. The greater Middle East has plenty of cash. ask the Russians. ask the French. everyone does business with everybody. Egypt hasn't done too bad. we give billions to them. more than any other middle eastern country. Saudi Arabia isn't complaining. Lybia wants to become something more than it's history.
Iraq should be no different. hell, Iraq has the potential to be greater than all the Middle East. would you complain then?


Did the Iraqi people asked the US to come and invade them?no
Did they say they want and American type democracy in their country? no
What if Iraq doesnt want to be the greatest country in the middle east?is that a crime?
Bottom line here is that the people of the middle east are sick and tired of westen countries fuckin them over and over.


Posted by Q5echo on Sep-16-2004 03:59:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Iam sure Iraqi's love the idea of being occupied by the Amercican right?I mean who wouldnt want that?

no one wants that. at least not forever. and the last thing my president wants is to stay there. if you have to trust anything he has to say, you must at least trust that. but that was the past. a horrible, stagnant, corrupt past that many Iraqi are willing to forget.




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Did the Iraqi people asked the US to come and invade them?no
many did, but you said it yourself. waht were they supposed to say?
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Did they say they want and American type democracy in their country? no

of course not. and it isn't. its very similar to a Western European model. like yours for example.
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What if Iraq doesnt want to be the greatest country in the middle east?is that a crime?

then they don't have to. its called free will something they never had and they have to start somewhere.
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Bottom line here is that the people of the middle east are sick and tired of westen countries fuckin them over and over.

that may be your bottom line, but right now, the only bottom line they are interested in is peace.


Posted by smokeape on Sep-16-2004 04:09:

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I'll guess Hardcore Trancer flag is Spain because I just don't know which rag it is. Anyhow, didn't the terrorists blow up your trains and you guys turned tail and ran away from them in Iraq? I think that kinda summarizes your country's resolve. It's not the first time in history.




[[[smoke]]]


Posted by TRANCEEEE on Sep-16-2004 04:16:

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Originally posted by smokeape
I'll guess Hardcore Trancer flag is Spain because I just don't know which rag it is. Anyhow, didn't the terrorists blow up your trains and you guys turned tail and ran away from them in Iraq? I think that kinda summarizes your country's resolve. It's not the first time in history.




[[[smoke]]]


hahahahha spain LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL ... american equcation ... can't get better than this


Posted by smokeape on Sep-16-2004 04:20:

Yeah, and I laugh at your girly men playing football. Put 'em up against the Packers with NFL rules.


[[[smoke]]]


Posted by hardcore trancer on Sep-16-2004 04:40:

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Originally posted by smokeape
I'll guess Hardcore Trancer flag is Spain because I just don't know which rag it is. Anyhow, didn't the terrorists blow up your trains and you guys turned tail and ran away from them in Iraq? I think that kinda summarizes your country's resolve. It's not the first time in history.




I like it how you get all these infos out of your ass.


Posted by D-res on Sep-16-2004 05:50:

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Originally posted by Cyrus King
This was one of the most disturbing things i have seen.

This poor man was getting ready to shoot the violence in iraq.. and while the camera was rolling and preparing for the shot.. he was saying in Arabic "i am going to die.. watch...im going to die now"

And what do you know....a ****** piece of shit yankee blows up a truck on fire with innocent civilians around it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3652174.stm

The american miliatry needs to be slaughtered.. becuase tehy are slaughterers. They need to experience a horrible death like the ones their victims have suffered. They are the most violent terrorists on earth... DIE MOTHER******S.. ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!




*shakes head in dissapointment*

man, cyrus, i love your name (cyrus) and i love your ibiza documentary, but honestly, dont be such a puss cheddar. fact is, in war, innocent poeple die, and people fuck up. dont single out the US military, just cause you hate george bush, and assume us "yanks" dont give a fuck about innocent people. one bad (in some peoples opinion) president, and you assume every one of us 300 million poeple are assholes. you know what?

fuck you. i guess we are assholes. or maybe you're the asshole for not thinking about what you're posting, or getting the whole story, or letting your feelings get the best of you.



on a lighter note:


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Originally posted by smokeape
Put 'em up against the Packers with NFL rules.


[[[smoke]]]




YES!!!! POST OF THE MELLENIUM


PACKERS OWN


but im still a huge soccer fan...


Posted by matty on Sep-16-2004 07:34:

I'm not gonna comment on this topic. I go to school in the US and thats bad enough....so Hijack time



quote:
Originally posted by D-res

PACKERS OWN



You wish, Packers BLOW....bring on the Vikings!!!!!


Posted by Shakka on Sep-16-2004 13:26:

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Originally posted by che

You wish, Packers BLOW....bring on the Vikings!!!!!


Only if Randy Moss feels like bringing his A-game for a change.


Posted by Zombie0915 on Sep-16-2004 14:48:

Supposedly Saddam was murdering hordes of innocents to the amount that some people were calling it genocide. Someone finaly gets the balls to stand up to him and you come to the conclusion that the army is a bunch of terrorists? War is disgusting and terrible, but I beleive that sometimes it is needed to prevent something that is even worse. Supposedly Saddam surrounded himself with huge crowds of civilians to keep people from bombimg him, part of the enemie's strategy is to put innocents in harms way in order to discourage anyone with compassion from attacking.

But then later they will continue torturing and murdering and raping and building their palaces while the rest of their people suffer. At some point it gets so awful that the compassionate have to stand up despite them not wanting to let innocent people die.

The US Army are not terrorists, terrorists attack innocent people to get the things we want, as disgusting as that link is to look at, the American are actually trying to hunt the guilty, despite their talent for hiding among the innocent.



I'm not saying that USA isn't dirty and corrupt and full of its own problems. I hate that the admins care so much about oil and are in bed with the oil business. I think its retarded that they tried to link saddam with osama and the whole WMD bullshit. I very much agree with you that Americans make themselves out to be a lot more rightous than they really are. We take 70% of the world's resources and try to contorl the entire world and spread democracy to places that don't want it, and have no right to do so. I think lots of other countries are justified in their anger at America, and it is very understandable that they want to attack.

But it is not USA's fault that they cannot fight us honorably, at least give some sort of ultimatum, get your children out of the way so we can have it out at each other without senseless killing. We do that for them, but they care more about their own agenda's than they do about human life.


You can say all sorts of shit about our country but we aren't interested in killing innocent people. The people who are in the military figting are doing so because they beleive that what they are doing will prevent something much worse. I know they would love nothing more then to stop killing and go home and see their families again, the soldiers arent there to steal, even if the government is.

I have friends who have come back from the fighting and they aren't even the same people anymore. War fucked them up and they are always gonna be traumatized because of it, they very well could have seen that kind of shit every day in person, and your going crazy just watching something from your computer. These soldiers are all kids fresh out of highschool, who are there because they want to make people's lives better.

You may be have a lot dirt US government but you have no idea what is really going on with the people who actualy live here.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Sep-16-2004 14:57:

I see a lot of unfortunate conclusions in this thread - I can only hope that they are just people venting their rage for the deaths of so many innocents, and not truly their feelings on the matter.

It's easy to just say kill em' all -whether you're talking about the US military OR the middle eastern peoples- but that's just it, it's the easy way out. Nobody ever said that the right thing was always going to be easy. Peace is a fragile thing; as such, we've only had about 2 full years of true peace on Earth within the last 2000 years, and you can bet that those 2 years were occupied with sweeping up the charred battlefield. We must never forget that we are dealing with people here, not numbers.

Half of my life was spent being raised in a military family on Air Force bases throughout the world. If there is one thing I have noticed throughout all of my travels, it's that people are the same just about wherever you go - dumb, stupid, pushy, greedy, kind, considerate, generous and magnanimous. It doesn't matter if you're military or non-military; people are just people. We're all just trying to eek out a happy existence on this rock full of many different viewpoints, with many of the same goals and dreams being universal.

War is an inevitablity: always has been, always will be. It's just human nature... but that is just part of the story. Human nature, in it's totality, is making war and regretting it. We are not soulless machines bent on destruction all of the time; the mark of a true human is sympathy, empathy, the will to repair what has been lost in the midst of so much war. It's normal to be bloodthirsty at first, just don't let that part of your soul be consumed; realize your actions and actualize your potential for humanity. Have the will to create as well as destroy and all will be forgiven ^_^


Posted by elletek on Sep-16-2004 15:30:

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Originally posted by Cyrus King

Die US military... DIE!!!

Whatd u say?

I don't see you promoting world peace.....


Posted by TRANCEEEE on Sep-16-2004 16:04:

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Originally posted by elletek
Whatd u say?

I don't see you promoting world peace.....


PFFFFFFF .. thats all i gotta say ... LOL world peace LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


Posted by Shakka on Sep-16-2004 16:25:

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Originally posted by TRANCEEEE
PFFFFFFF .. thats all i gotta say ... LOL world peace LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


What would you say to whirled peas?




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