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i don't see how this is a discussion lol


g unit is teh suck

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Originally posted by Slylee ok you are just simply talking out of your ass...this is 100% opinion based, there is no right or wrong, so why don't you come back when you are able to grasp that concept. and for the record, i happen to like both G-Unit and Nas...so sue me.

REALLY, I mean, PLEASE, go back in time, WRITE, more tracks than I have, GAIN knowledge of that which you speak, become a B-BOY like I was in 1982, DEFEND hip hop as a whole like I have been for so many, many, MANY years, get into the very CULTURE itSELF, because my experience is FACT rather that opinion. When people speak of hip hop, they speak of ME. When "real heads" think hip hop, they think of individuals like myself. LEARN from other people, like myself what the foundation of rap was back in the day. I very seriously doubt you wore parachute pants and carried a cardboard to school like MYSELF. I was at the concerts, I wrote rhymes, I taught myself how to scratch, watched the 1st YO MTV Raps, learned from other MCs, etc etc etc.


Read what I wrote here and don'tever think I am talking out of my ass as far as a genre I grew up with, and help grow. I'm a living dictionar-Y of rap histor-Y.

As far as opinions go, sure, everybody has theirs. Your comparing the new jacks like LeBrown James to established champs like Air Jordan.

AKS yourself......

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new cd.... "1st infantry"

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For the record: I honestly don't give half a crap about Nas or G-Unit.

That being said, I just have a one comment:

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Originally posted by Remiks Nas is considered one of the top 5 all time rappers,

Who considers this? The media? Because out of all of the people listing "underground" stuff have made almost no mention of Nas. If the media is who considers him to be great, doesn't that make him commercial too?

he's not all that commercial IMO. he has released a bunch of singles and videos and they've never been good in the public eye. i mean, they never last on TRL, which defines mainstream shit....

also, i've taken wrong turns many a time and ended up in the ghetto more than once, lol, and you never hear guys rollin to fiddy, but you hear nas commin out of their speakers a lot.... not that that has anything to do with anything

There was a jam at the centre and the party was shakin', and the poppers was poppin' and the breakers was breakin', and it won't be long till everybody knows that B-BOYS ROCK THE DOCUMENT!

Keepin' it I-N-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-T... B-Boy Document '99. Soundbombing II, Rawkus Records.

but to say that nas is considered in the top 5 is a biased comment. that's all i was pointing out. Everyone has different tastes, and different fav. artists....

I can see the retort (from someone, no one in particular) "well, everyone who likes rap considers him to be one of the best." I like rap (not as much as I once did), and he might be in my top 20. Prolly not, TBH. *shrug*

I think the whole argument is useless. Some people just like different things. I accept that some people like Nas, even though I , personally, do not. I bet half the hip-hop heads don't like what I like, and I, frankly, don't give a crap.

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Originally posted by jennypie There was a jam at the centre and the party was shakin', and the poppers was poppin' and the breakers was breakin', and it won't be long till everybody knows that B-BOYS ROCK THE DOCUMENT!

=)

classic

mos def rocks in that one

The only point that I am trying to make here is that it bothers me when people trash certain songs just because it�s commercial, or just because maybe the lyrical content isn�t very deep w/ a lot of meaning, and ignore the actual music behind the lyrics. Music is an escape from reality, and for me, it doesn�t ALWAYS have to mean something or have these killer lyrics that I need a dictionary for to understand. I referred to that as �mindless hip hop� in another thread, and personally, I love that stuff just as much as I love the deeper, more underground style too, especially when I�m at a club and in the mood to dance. I agree, that the lyrics in hip hop get old, but I guess that is what defines hip hop these days. All these ghetto thugs made it off the streets and have nothing better to rap about but , �I�m hot, you�re not, I have money, you don�t� bla bla...yea, it does get old..but as much as I appreciate a great story and rhymes in a rap/hip hop song, I gotta be honest, it�s the beat and melody that grabs my attention. I agree with the thread starter about the Lloyd Banks, G-Unit, 50 cent stuff...I LOVE that kind of sound, it�s very raw, but at the same time, I also agree about 50�s whole image being a joke. it's just that the only thing that I was arguing is that Nas is guilty of the same image, and the same lyrical content, just maybe a bit more creative (according to most of you in here bc of your opinions). yea, Nas been in the game longer, so he deserves more respect, but I mean c�mon,THEY ALL rap about being bad asses and having money and basically it's just a big shit talking marathon (I�m talking about artists like Jay-Z, Nas, 50..etc.) but I still love their songs because of the sound...

hope I clarified things.

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Originally posted by Slylee The only point that I am trying to make here is that it bothers me when people trash certain songs just because it�s commercial, or just because maybe the lyrical content isn�t very deep w/ a lot of meaning, and ignore the actual music behind the lyrics. Music is an escape from reality, and for me, it doesn�t ALWAYS have to mean something or have these killer lyrics that I need a dictionary for to understand. I referred to that as �mindless hip hop� in another thread, and personally, I love that stuff just as much as I love the deeper, more underground style too, especially when I�m at a club and in the mood to dance. I agree, that the lyrics in hip hop get old, but I guess that is what defines hip hop these days. All these ghetto thugs made it off the streets and have nothing better to rap about but , �I�m hot, you�re not, I have money, you don�t� bla bla...yea, it does get old..but as much as I appreciate a great story and rhymes in a rap/hip hop song, I gotta be honest, it�s the beat and melody that grabs my attention. I agree with the thread starter about the Lloyd Banks, G-Unit, 50 cent stuff...I LOVE that kind of sound, it�s very raw, but at the same time, I also agree about 50�s whole image being a joke. it's just that the only thing that I was arguing is that Nas is guilty of the same image, and the same lyrical content, just maybe a bit more creative (according to most of you in here bc of your opinions). yea, Nas been in the game longer, so he deserves more respect, but I mean c�mon,THEY ALL rap about being bad asses and having money and basically it's just a big shit talking marathon (I�m talking about artists like Jay-Z, Nas, 50..etc.) but I still love their songs because of the sound... hope I clarified things.

i agree..if a tune is catchy and makes you wanna dance then so be it..the fact that it is mainstream and not underground doesnt make it less catchy or less danceable..i mean a tune like g-unit P.I.M.P is so catchy to me and always makes me wanna dance now whatever the fuck they r rhyming about doesnt make a difference as long as i am havin a good time...if i want something deep ill go read poetry.

actually nas doesnt rap at all abt bling bling just struggles of his which are fiction. you people have to realize one thing abt rappers..they all talk shit none of them are from the streets and theyre all midle class thug kids. theres only a handful that are truly gangster but they dont run the streets no more hell theyre making millions why would they have to.

not only that but most rappers, commerical rappers are biters and stealer of already marketed images. tho whole from rag to riches thing has already done by biggie smalls and 2 pac..hell they invented that whole image. cxommercial rappers today need to find new marketing schemes because some of the shit is truly getting old.

uhm

How about nitty - nasty girls

Lyrics :

Do it.
Whoo, Little nasty girl
(Yo man, see that, damn)
Damn!

Yo Yo Yo Yo
Hey girl I like your flava
Wish I could be your neighba
Must be coffee by the way you shakin your perk-u-later
I'm the smooth operator
Hot mommy motivator
What I really wanna do
Put that thing on you
Butter up yo hot potato
Gettin more dough then bakers
Rim's spinnin like I knew your break is
You got it all give me a call
I'm ballin like the Lakers
Hey ma now I won't chase ya
Sweetheart ignore them haters
Let's have some fun
Bittys' got me on the run
Come on girl get this paper

Well honey (Whatcha got Mr. Mans)
I got a lot of money (I don't see no keys in my hands)
Could you be my nasty girl
And let me do that dirty dance witchu (If you want just give me money)
Mommy (Ooo Whee Poppi)
Shake that sexy body (Do you like what you see?)
I just wanna nasty girl
Now tell me is that nasty girl you? (I can love you long time)

I'm in the Escalade, you in the Navigator
You talkin dirty wanna serve me in the elevator
Wanna give it to me now not later
Mommy's body was a dime, can't hate her
What a brother gonna do when the bitty rolls through
Who's lookin just like Jada
We hit the elevator
Of course there's always haters
But it didn't matter yo
We were puttin on a show
Free for all your spectators
Mommy threw it like a champ (Yo wait up)
Yo i didn't even know her name (What!?)
Bitty's opened up your eyes
Haters better recognize
That Nitty got this playa

Well honey (Whatcha got Mr. Mans)
I got a lot of money (I don't see no keys in my hands)
Could you be my nasty girl
And let me do that dirty dance witchu (If you want just give me money)
Mommy (Ooo Whee Poppi)
Shake that sexy body (Do you like what you see?)
I just wanna nasty girl
Now tell me is that nasty girl you? (I can love you long time)

I gotta pick my date up
To dinner I'ma take her
Last time we sexed I had her crawlin like an alligator
She just came from jamaica
The land of booty shaka's
Her names Candy
Give it to her nasty
Sometimes I even taste her
I'm here right now she's dressed up
Hourglass shape, long hair, makeup
Lookin downtown, she said right now "I want it now, I'm straight up"
We're standin face to face, uh
I knew right where to take her
That private room called the bathroom
Uh oh, here's comes the waiter

Well honey (Whatcha got Mr. Mans)
I got a lot of money (I don't see no keys in my hands)
Could you be my nasty girl
And let me do that dirty dance witchu (If you want just give me money)
Mommy (Ooo Whee Poppi)
Shake that sexy body (Do you like what you see?)
I just wanna nasty girl
Now tell me is that nasty girl you? (I can love you long time)

East coast
West coast
Worldwide
North side
South side
Let's ride
Let's party all night
Nasty girls come inside

Honey (Whatcha got Mr. Mans)
I got a lot of money (I don't see no keys in my hands)
Could you be my nasty girl
And let me do that dirty dance witchu (If you want just give me money)
Mommy (Ooo Whee Poppi)
Shake that sexy body (Do you like what you see?)
I just wanna nasty girl
Now tell me is that nasty girl you? (I can love you long time)

CAn't recommend any rap or hip hop songs, but can recommend some fans to avoid...




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Slylee, I think this is a sign of the Apocalypse. I actually agree with you.

All kidding aside, I don't listen to rap for the lyrics. It's just as relaxing to me as most EDM. Saying rap sucks because it's about bitches and money is like saying a lot of trance sucks cause it doesn't have words.

I don't like G-Unit as a whole, but Young Buck, 50 and Lloyd Banks are all awesome on their own. 213 is where it's at, though. How can you go wrong with Warren G, Nate Dogg and Snoop? Hell, Nate and Warren made one of the best rap songs ever (Regulate), but throw Snoop in there... man, how can you go wrong?

Can't argue with Wu-Tang or Jurassic 5, though. Concrete Jungle was a badass album.

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Originally posted by Pariah Cleric Saying rap sucks because it's about bitches and money is like saying a lot of trance sucks cause it doesn't have words.

exactly the point i was trying to make

About 10 years ago I used to listen to a lot of west coast gangsta rap and it definitely wasn't for the lyrics. Although they were somewhat amusing, they were of an offensive nature. I just liked all the hums and basslines.

E-40, Spice One, Celly Cel, Brotha Lynch, Snoop, Dre, Warren G, DFC, The Coup, and B-Legit were some of my favorites.

i was in love with tu-pac when i was in high school...i loved his emotion and how it changed with each song...i don't know what it was, but he just made me feel what he felt when he wrote his stuff...it was crazy. he was the man, i don't care what anyone says.

let's see, i was also big into Wu-Tang Clan...those guys crack me up with their lyrics and their sound was very unique like outkast...I love that song "M.G.M" on WuTang Forever album...also "Dog Shit"...lol that is the funniest song i've ever heard

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You're the type of bitch don't appreciate sheeeit Never had sheeeit, so you won't be sheeeeit That pussy there, couldn't satisfy a hair on my body, treat me like a lolli and slob me down *SLURP, SLURP* I'm Doo Doo Brown! Hehahahaha Tossed salad, oh you in some shit now Callin me a dog, well leave a dog alone Cause nothin can stop me from buryin my bones in the backyard, of someone else's house Ol Dirt Dog, but I'm not dog out Here comes Rover, sniffin at your ass But pardon me bitch, as I shit on your grass That means hoe, you been shit-ted on! I'm not the first dog that's shitted on your lawn

some other favs i liked in high school
Lil Kim
Lost Boyz "Renee"
Xzibit "Paparazzi"
Goodie Mobb
Ice Cube (Friday Soundtrack is awesome still!)
Cypress Hill


now i like more hip hop than hard core rap... i LOVE ludacris...funky southern style hip hop is my favorite... Petey Pablo is awesome, and i still love Jay-Z...old & new.

lately i've been out of the EDM loop because i just don't have time (or a computer at home) to check out the latest stuff, so i've been mainly listening to hip hop & some rock too...but my heart is still w/ edm.

Heh, good to see I'm not alone here. Me and some of my friends are into EDM, but also Hip-hop beats. Frankly, i could care less what the stupid guy is talking about, as long as there's a catchy, addictive beat. I also try my hand in producing beats.

Some reccomendations for producers (search them, find songs):

Scott Storch (Amazing strings)
Dr Dre
Eminem (as a producer, he did On Fire)
Timbaland

Check out "Macho Man" Randy Savage's new rap album "Be A Man". Itz off da hook g money. Only real men will be able to understand this album, OOOH YEAHH!

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