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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle thats a bit over the top mate. if u dont like it, dont post, simple as that

maybe jezper could close this thread to stop anything slightly critical said about him being read.....

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle thats a bit over the top mate. if u dont like it, dont post, simple as that

How is it over the top? Did you even read what I said?

god damn.. WHO GIVES A SHIT...

you people need to stop being such post whores/forum monkeys..

The mod decided to keep the thread open, FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.. there's a reason why HE IS THE MOD AND YOU AREN'T

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery It's like pissing on your fans' shoes when trying to thank them.

thats the bit that i think is over the top. i think u need to chill out a bit about it man thats all

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Originally posted by alanzo god damn.. WHO GIVES A SHIT... you people need to stop being such post whores/forum monkeys.. The mod decided to keep the thread open, FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.. there's a reason why HE IS THE MOD AND YOU AREN'T

Well said! Now, anyone want a slice of shut the hell up cake? i got plenty to go around

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle thats a bit over the top mate. if u dont like it, dont post, simple as that

I'd have to agree with Nik here, while it's understandable that Jezper doesn't want his tracks to get out, he could either sample it, tweak it a lot or offer something even closer like 96kbps which isn't perfect but would be understood since the track might be signed. The problem here is that there are lots of people who are as good as Jezper who are not uptight about posting better quality samples, as said before, guys like Haak, MK-S, Santiago Nino, George Hales, Luke, Echano, Nik and many others are happy doing so, so I can totally understand their frustrations here. I know you haven't been here as long as some, but believe me there is so much talent willing to offer better quality samples, it could be construed as a kick in the teeth to people who offer better quality. At the end of the day too, if Jezper or yourself or anyone else cannot take constructive criticisms to either the quality of sample or indeed what is in it, then there is little part being a part of a forum, would you rather everyone praised everything you did when nothing is perfect ?

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Originally posted by alanzo god damn.. WHO GIVES A SHIT... you people need to stop being such post whores/forum monkeys.. The mod decided to keep the thread open, FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.. there's a reason why HE IS THE MOD AND YOU AREN'T

the mod is a cock tho

i post high quality samples, but thats just because i want to so that i can get more accurate feedback. all im doing is defending those who dont want to because i dont think that its fair for people to kick up such a fuss about something that has absolutely no effect on them. you could say its a kick in the teeth of those who post better samples.. but to think of it like that is quite childish.

I say... get over it already!

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle thats the bit that i think is over the top. i think u need to chill out a bit about it man thats all

Chilling out isn't going to change my opinion.

Just think about it. Would you post a 32kbps track up here and actually expect people to praise you for that? I mean it just isn't listenable.

ok so let him post a 32 kbs sample and if no one praises him for it so be it. i have seen some constructive points raised about the track allready,so hes getting something out of posting it here. all im saying is if you dont like it then leave it. it doesnt matter. if people want to post on it they will. not as many ppl will, but so be it, does it matter to you that not many ppl will post?

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Chilling out isn't going to change my opinion. Just think about it. Would you post a 32kbps track up here and actually expect people to praise you for that? I mean it just isn't listenable.

and what happens if anyone who's ever been signed decides to post only 32kbps from now on, would this be allowed, or would they not get the same lenience. I respect what Luke's said here, but I honestly think that making too many exceptions could cause harm

let it be.

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle ok so let him post a 32 kbs sample and if no one praises him for it so be it. i have seen some constructive points raised about the track allready,so hes getting something out of posting it here. all im saying is if you dont like it then leave it. it doesnt matter. if people want to post on it they will. not as many ppl will, but so be it, does it matter to you that not many ppl will post?

Ehh, forget it. It's like talking to a brick wall.

lol oiy im not a brick wall. i just dont think the quality of someone elses track in someone elses thread has anything to do with you.

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle lol oiy im not a brick wall. i just dont think the quality of someone elses track in someone elses thread has anything to do with you.

Erm... I'm the listener, of course it has something to do with me.

Nice one!!

CS-Jay told me that you've were making Genie II

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Erm... I'm the listener, of course it has something to do with me.

your not the listener. u said yourself 32kbs isnt listenable, SO DONT LISTEN.

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle your not the listener. u said yourself 32kbs isnt listenable, SO DONT LISTEN.

Right, you're not even trying to get what I'm trying to say here. Please don't respond to any more of my posts before you actually understand the content.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Right, you're not even trying to get what I'm trying to say here. Please don't respond to any more of my posts before you actually understand the content.

I do understand the content, but i still think your wrong

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle I do understand the content, but i still think you're wrong

Your previous post clearly shows otherwise. But that's all I'm going to say to you since you're just repeating the same lines over and over again.

what? ok.. well now that you know its not your problem im sure you wont bring it up again.

anyway no hard feelings i just disagree with u

I havent read up on the whole thread yet, but let me just say one thing.
As I didnt know of the rule, I just assumed that it was more liked by visitors to hear a full track in lofi than a 2 min clip in hifi. If someone asked me if i wanted to see 20 min of a dvd movie instead of the whole movie in telesync, id definately would choose the telesync. Nothing is more pointless than engaging yourself in incomplete stuff. With full version tracks in lofi, you get an idea of how the full track sounds. A 2 min clip wont tell you about intro, break, buildup, climax, bridges, verses, chorus or outro. Im very satisfied with my track, so I wouldnt be able to choose 2 min from it to put out as a sample, as i believe its missing the total point of being trance music. There is a reason for trance beeing 7min long or around there than 3 min. Its about trance, building up a sort of emotion. Making a 2 min really hifi sample just makes you people concentrate on the mastering and production, the two least important things of music in general.

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Originally posted by Airbase Making a 2 min really hifi sample just makes you people concentrate on the mastering and production, the two least important things of music in general.

Well for the most producers, and then I say at least 95 % the mastering and production is THE issue to receive comments on and to pay attention to. But I agree now there is a great distinction between the most tracks posted here and yours, I guess. And that is that your tracks don't need any more attention to the mastering (or do they?), while the most other tracks (e.g. my tracks) do. Could be the case, wouldn't be a surprise.

So there will be a whole different listen than most people here usually do. So if people are listening to your track (which sounds aweful due to the low bitrate but thats just my opinion), people should "read" the buildup and emotion etc., which is actually what it's about in trance.

But then again it takes quite something to make yourself listen to this horrible 32kbps sample! (imo)

Which brings me to the following:

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WHY

would someone post a 32 kbps sample in stead of a 96 kbps which is completely useless for djs/rippers/listeners to steal, while at the same time it attracts more listeners, more comments, more accurate reviews, happier reviewers, avoids these conversations, ... ??

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Please help me out.

Well, Im not posting to get comments on mastering or equalizing, and i find it hard to believe that thats the first thing that people wants comment on also.

I posted 64 kbps demos earlier, and i've had DJs playing them out on clubs. Thats why.

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Originally posted by Airbase Well, Im not posting to get comments on mastering or equalizing, and i find it hard to believe that thats the first thing that people wants comment on also.

welcome to the club

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