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women will always pay attention until they feel comfortable to not pay attention to you - this happens when they feel they know you enough

play games with women right back. i'm telling you right now, when i'm not trying is when they get interested. just be outgoing and the life of the party and they'll take notice

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Originally posted by Floorfiller play games with women right back. when i'm not trying is when they get interested.

Shhhh ... don't let 'em onto us, haha

Wait, so most of you have this 'point' system where you give people certain scores based on how you observe them reacting to traps you put up for them? Fuck - it's no wonder so many of you can't hold on to a decent relationship. Love by numbers is never meant to last. I suppose it works good and well for sex (don't lie to yourselves ladies, you need it too) but the foundation of a good and meaningful relationship that transcends this lower-order of being could never be based on some retarded score-based system. It's like you're hosting applications for companionship - that sort of thing is never meant to last.

You'll soon run out of the passion in any relationship if all you do is keep track of how they're doing. It should be more focused on how WE'RE doing, as the ultimate goal (if there ever was to be one) should be for two people to become as one, forever.

Maybe I just have a far too romantic outlook on things, though ^^;

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Originally posted by -=M=- haha problem is: the guys that are intelligent, nice, and to some extent - funny (like me for example) are viewed too much as the "bigger brother" - meaning girlfriends are hard to come by

story of my life right there hehehe...being too nice is not good

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Originally posted by Floorfiller play games with women right back. i'm telling you right now, when i'm not trying is when they get interested. just be outgoing and the life of the party and they'll take notice

Spot on...this works like a charm..."chicks r like stamps spit on em and they will stick".

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Originally posted by Floorfiller play games with women right back. i'm telling you right now, when i'm not trying is when they get interested. just be outgoing and the life of the party and they'll take notice

Man I know EXACTLY what you mean, I started this new job about 3 months ago, this chick started at the same time, I didn't take any notice of her as I went into this job just for the job and to only concentrate on it, well over the next 2 months I talked to her now and then and joked around, but still didn't take much notice, then over the last month so, she is constantly coming over and acting different, like talking complete nonsence and about things that you really can't hold a conversation with, so I start something else up, then thats were her personality shines as she is funny and very smart, then when I kinda started to take notice of her, it seems like its come to a stand still, I hate getting headfucked like this, so I've gone back to how things were before and don't pay much attention, but she is in training at the moment so things are quiet around here right now and I don't see her much, anyway, I'm not wasting my time with these games, and just gonna let things go by themselves.

Halycon: yea I know, its fucked up to me to, but I'm also the Romantic type.

EDIT: as for the outgoing and party side of things, don't worry about that part, I'm always like that.

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Originally posted by DannyO Man I know EXACTLY what you mean, I started this new job about 3 months ago, this chick started at the same time, I didn't take any notice of her as I went into this job just for the job and to only concentrate on it, well over the next 2 months I talked to her now and then and joked around, but still didn't take much notice, then over the last month so, she is constantly coming over and acting different, like talking complete nonsence and about things that you really can't hold a conversation with, so I start something else up, then thats were her personality shines as she is funny and very smart, then when I kinda started to take notice of her, it seems like its come to a stand still, I hate getting headfucked like this, so I've gone back to how things were before and don't pay much attention, but she is in training at the moment so things are quiet around here right now and I don't see her much, anyway, I'm not wasting my time with these games, and just gonna let things go by themselves. Halycon: yea I know, its fucked up to me to, but I'm also the Romantic type. EDIT: as for the outgoing and party side of things, don't worry about that part, I'm always like that.

well there comes a point when you just need to go for it. i'm just saying that women can tell when you're out looking for some ass. just go out and be yourself and talk and have a good time and they'll take notice of that. you gotta let them know you're interested eventually though...

in your office at least you gotta be careful not to just be the office chum. maybe she was interested, but you didn't really give her any signs that you were interested too...its a delicate balance. eventually you just gotta say...hey...lets go get some food after work.

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Originally posted by -=M=- women will always pay attention until they feel comfortable to not pay attention to you - this happens when they feel they know you enough

tell you one thing that is a lot of fun - that's not playing the game at all, and i mean the interest game - not playing hard to get, i mean just showing a complete lack of interest.

its really rather fun and provides some funny results

eg - if you have the chance to sit on the couch with someone, make the first eye contact and then let it be at that. not playing the game at all can drive a girl nuts if she feels that you're not even looking at her

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Originally posted by DannyO she is constantly coming over and acting different, like talking complete nonsence and about things that you really can't hold a conversation with, so I start something else up, then thats were her personality shines as she is funny and very smart, then when I kinda started to take notice of her, it seems like its come to a stand still,...

sounds like ur on the friends ladder

It all depends on the girl. Try not to worry too much and you'll find they come to you. I am over going out and trying to mack on girls. If they wanna talk to me, they can. I'm not gonna worry about the games they play, that will probably not change (at least with women in their 20's and below, with few exceptions). Play them back for sure. If a girl wants to flirt to get you jealous, do the same. And if all else fails, get her drunk and things should take care of themselves, assuming she likes you. That's the best way to find out.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller well there comes a point when you just need to go for it. i'm just saying that women can tell when you're out looking for some ass. just go out and be yourself and talk and have a good time and they'll take notice of that. you gotta let them know you're interested eventually though... in your office at least you gotta be careful not to just be the office chum. maybe she was interested, but you didn't really give her any signs that you were interested too...its a delicate balance. eventually you just gotta say...hey...lets go get some food after work.

Yea, I know I'd have to make a move eventually, I kinda did the other day, but she was hammered and it didn't really get anywhere, mainly cos it was over MSN unfortunately, she came on, we talked and shit, but she had quite abit to drink, but I kinda feel like I'm being tested by her and theres some game going on, so I'm just gonna back away and let it all slide by, I really am sick of games, I ain't really bothered were this all leads, if I go out with her, great, if not, oh well, I hear what Igottaknow is saying, but I don't think its gone that way, theres to much to explain, and I can't be assed right now.

If a woman is testing you, then you just gotta not fall for it. for instance if she is acting like a bitch or doing shit that lowers your self esteem, then you have to not act like a bitch and take it like it's nothing or just play along with her and strike back with a bigger test. But i think most of the time, the thing that causes a woman to test you is because you did something that somehow proved to them that you might not be worth their time and you just have to not let their testing get to you.

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Originally posted by DannyO Yea, I know I'd have to make a move eventually, I kinda did the other day, but she was hammered and it didn't really get anywhere, mainly cos it was over MSN unfortunately, she came on, we talked and shit, but she had quite abit to drink, but I kinda feel like I'm being tested by her and theres some game going on, so I'm just gonna back away and let it all slide by, I really am sick of games, I ain't really bothered were this all leads, if I go out with her, great, if not, oh well, I hear what Igottaknow is saying, but I don't think its gone that way, theres to much to explain, and I can't be assed right now.

see drunkeness is different. first off, try and be drunk in person...that'll help hehe . second, when you're drunk you can be as straight forward as you want to be, it's that simple. if both of you are drunk, then you both are having a good time, looking to possibly hook up with people...just be straight forward and say she looks hot tonight or something.

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Originally posted by DannyO Yea, I know I'd have to make a move eventually, I kinda did the other day, but she was hammered and it didn't really get anywhere, mainly cos it was over MSN unfortunately, she came on, we talked and shit, but she had quite abit to drink, but I kinda feel like I'm being tested by her and theres some game going on, so I'm just gonna back away and let it all slide by, I really am sick of games, I ain't really bothered were this all leads, if I go out with her, great, if not, oh well, I hear what Igottaknow is saying, but I don't think its gone that way, theres to much to explain, and I can't be assed right now.

my bad, cause i don't have time to read through the whole thread, but what makes you think she's testing you? and you're talking through Msn? personally i dont take any shit from chatting seriously and i dont think anyone else should either...

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Originally posted by WeenZ Like this kinda pwned?

LOLL that picture gets the owned of the year medal!!

Best part is that it's a CSU student gettin the balls to the face!!!

every girl is different, but for me, it is really a turn off when a guy has that attitude like, �whatever, if she wants to get to know me, she can come to me�. I guess I�m old fashioned. Don't get me wrong though, I have no problem striking up a conversation with a guy and talking, and dropping hints that I'm interested (without throwing myself at him).

guys, it is a MAJORLY OBVIOUS sign if a girl initiates a conversation and is talkative with you and smiles a lot while talking...it�s like, �HELLO! ASK FOR MY NUMBER�! do we have to stamp it on our foreheads for you guys to feel confident enough to make a move?

I just feel like guys have less confidence these days when it comes to approaching girls...who knows, maybe it�s our fault (women) because we make it too easy for you. I just feel that men should take the initiative and ask for a girl�s phone number or ask for a date, at least the first time. Not always though, I�m just saying in general. I think overly assertive women who buy men drinks and ask them out for dinner are just setting themselves up for disappointment... I like a guy who takes charge, and has the restaurant/plans all picked out ahead of time, etc.. i can be that way too though, but that's usually only after the relationship is solid and monogamous...i love making plans and surprising my sweetie and having a whole romantic night planned out.

but as far as the first date, i think it's way better when the guy asks for the number and makes the move...

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer Best part is that it's a CSU student gettin the balls to the face!!!

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Originally posted by Theresa As for the hotness.... for me the hotness doesn't really change the way my point systems go. Sometimes I am harder on the hot guys because they are cocky, and I don't like that. If an ugly guy acts like a jackass, he will lose just as many points as the hot guy. However, the hot guy gains points right off the bat for being hot, but those can be easily and quickly revoked by poor personality. I find a mediocre looking guy with a fantastic personality to be way more attractive than a hot guy with a shitty personality.

LOL so you're saying a nice, ass kissing, normal guy is more attractive than a confident, cocky, and funny guy?

PLEASE....I've heard so many women say oooooh i want a nice sensitive guy (not saying there's anything wrong with nice guys), and it's funny how most women either still don't know what they really want from a man, or are just not being straight forward with they they really want.

Now i know every person has different tastes, but i am sure the majority of women would rather prefer the second choice than the first. Why? first choice will bore the shit out of a girl after a while. On the other hand, the 2nd choice will just be more attractive to women and i don't know why but from experiences i'm saying this.

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Originally posted by Trancer85 LOL so you're saying a nice, ass kissing, normal guy is more attractive than a confident, cocky, and funny guy? PLEASE....I've heard so many women say oooooh i want a nice sensitive guy (not saying there's anything wrong with nice guys), and it's funny how most women either still don't know what they really want from a man, or are just not being straight forward with they they really want. Now i know every person has different tastes, but i am sure the majority of women would rather prefer the second choice than the first. Why? first choice will bore the shit out of a girl after a while. On the other hand, the 2nd choice will just be more attractive to women and i don't know why but from experiences i'm saying this.

i would usually agree with you, but i'm proof that theresa likes nice guys hehehe...

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Originally posted by Slylee every girl is different, but for me, it is really a turn off when a guy has that attitude like, �whatever, if she wants to get to know me, she can come to me�. I guess I�m old fashioned. Don't get me wrong though, I have no problem striking up a conversation with a guy and talking, and dropping hints that I'm interested (without throwing myself at him). guys, it is a MAJORLY OBVIOUS sign if a girl initiates a conversation and is talkative with you and smiles a lot while talking...it�s like, �HELLO! ASK FOR MY NUMBER�! do we have to stamp it on our foreheads for you guys to feel confident enough to make a move? I just feel like guys have less confidence these days when it comes to approaching girls...who knows, maybe it�s our fault (women) because we make it too easy for you. I just feel that men should take the initiative and ask for a girl�s phone number or ask for a date, at least the first time. Not always though, I�m just saying in general. I think overly assertive women who buy men drinks and ask them out for dinner are just setting themselves up for disappointment... I like a guy who takes charge, and has the restaurant/plans all picked out ahead of time, etc.. i can be that way too though, but that's usually only after the relationship is solid and monogamous...i love making plans and surprising my sweetie and having a whole romantic night planned out. but as far as the first date, i think it's way better when the guy asks for the number and makes the move...

I agree with that, but if I try to talk to a girl and she doesn't pay much attention, I'll move on. Most times I'm at the club with friends anyway. I'd rather hang out than feel I have to be on the prowl all the time. I end up talking to enough women, and of course I ask for the number. I don't think anyone should be a wuss about it, but you don't necessarily have to make meeting women the number one priority. I find I do better when I don't stress over it, and let things come to me.

I understand the planned date thing too. My mom is like you in that sense. I think those are good, but I generally like doing things at the spur of the moment. But the first few dates should be arranged by the man. Taking charge is important, or you might bore the girl. It really depends on how you meet though. If you meet and hook up, it's different than if you have been friends for a while before, or have met several times. Every situation has a different strategy, I believe.

Also, the worst thing that can happen if you ask for a girls number is that she'll say no. I've only had that happen a couple of times, when I feel as though they are vibing with me. Once was a week and a half ago with a girl I've met a bunch of times. She flirts with me too, but I found out she's seeing someone. Even if she just didn't want to give it out, it's not a big deal. There are plenty of women out there you can meet and talk to. Have confidence, try to read their body language, and move on it.

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Originally posted by Slylee every girl is different, but for me, it is really a turn off when a guy has that attitude like, �whatever, if she wants to get to know me, she can come to me�. I guess I�m old fashioned. Don't get me wrong though, I have no problem striking up a conversation with a guy and talking, and dropping hints that I'm interested (without throwing myself at him). guys, it is a MAJORLY OBVIOUS sign if a girl initiates a conversation and is talkative with you and smiles a lot while talking...it�s like, �HELLO! ASK FOR MY NUMBER�! do we have to stamp it on our foreheads for you guys to feel confident enough to make a move? I just feel like guys have less confidence these days when it comes to approaching girls...who knows, maybe it�s our fault (women) because we make it too easy for you. I just feel that men should take the initiative and ask for a girl�s phone number or ask for a date, at least the first time. Not always though, I�m just saying in general. I think overly assertive women who buy men drinks and ask them out for dinner are just setting themselves up for disappointment... I like a guy who takes charge, and has the restaurant/plans all picked out ahead of time, etc.. i can be that way too though, but that's usually only after the relationship is solid and monogamous...i love making plans and surprising my sweetie and having a whole romantic night planned out. but as far as the first date, i think it's way better when the guy asks for the number and makes the move...

i kinda agree with you somehow, and that is for guys to get more confidence when talking to girls.

the part i don't agree is that girls should walk up to guys too, it's not like there's a rule where us men has to do all the work.

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer I understand the planned date thing too. My mom is like you in that sense. I think those are good, but I generally like doing things at the spur of the moment. But the first few dates should be arranged by the man. Taking charge is important, or you might bore the girl. It really depends on how you meet though. If you meet and hook up, it's different than if you have been friends for a while before, or have met several times. Every situation has a different strategy, I believe. Also, the worst thing that can happen if you ask for a girls number is that she'll say no. I've only had that happen a couple of times, when I feel as though they are vibing with me. Once was a week and a half ago with a girl I've met a bunch of times. She flirts with me too, but I found out she's seeing someone. Even if she just didn't want to give it out, it's not a big deal. There are plenty of women out there you can meet and talk to. Have confidence, try to read their body language, and move on it.

MOMMA'S BOY!!!!!

I have to agree with you though.

i agree with you nite-mer...about everything...it does depend on how you met and allt hat, but i did mean like the first couple of dates..it's very exciting (for me) when the night is like a surprise and it's like he's got something planned nice...makes you feel like a princess girls eat that shit up.

and like i said, i strike up convos all the time (when i'm single), and after talking a lot (good convo, good vibe, etc..) if he doesn't ask for my number before i leave then i'm like, "ok screw that". i'm not gonna make it THAT easy...i'll just take that as him not being interested enough to take it a step further....

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