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Originally posted by PVD_S11DJ Im definitely voting for Bush. I cant stand John Kerry and his United Nations-centric view of the world.

Kerry.

My main reasoning is that, considering the shit bush pulled in his first term, I'm really afraid what he may do in four years where he is not worrying about re-election.

That, and oh yeah no WMD anywhere to be found.

There are too many issues to list where these candidates differ, and I really don't feel that Kerry is "the right man for the job", but I think he is a much better one than bush is.

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Originally posted by PVD_S11DJ Im definitely voting for Bush. I cant stand John Kerry and his United Nations-centric view of the world.

so its okay for the united states to police and terrorize the world with its own free will and without the consent any other country? you conservatives amaze me with your ignorance and stupidity

John Kerry

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Originally posted by kid nyce the fact of the matter is would you want the war here on our soil or there on their soil? For me personally, confining them on their soil makes our environment much less rough.

I agree with you 100%, and I was and still am a supporter of our effort in Afghanistan, however I'm also going to have to agree with Ms. Rice on this one:


"Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with the actual attacks on America."

-- Dr. Condoleezza Rice
Pittsburgh, PA
October 22 2004

This is too funny

http://www.liegirls.com/

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Originally posted by PVD_S11DJ Im definitely voting for Bush. I cant stand John Kerry and his United Nations-centric view of the world.

What kind of a view do you think Bush takes? NATO-centric, most likely. Or I prefer to call it arrogant and obnoxious.

Whoever isn't with us, is against us. Whoever is with us, better show some force to help us.

Four more years! Four more years!!!!!

Yes...I'm voting for Bush! Sue me. I cannot bring myself to trust Kerry...much less vote for him.

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Originally posted by PVD_S11DJ Im definitely voting for Bush. I cant stand John Kerry and his United Nations-centric view of the world.

The U.N. has lost credibility and cannot be trusted. It is corrupt and nothing more than a defense league for terrorists and dictators.

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Originally posted by trancinchink if by preserving life you mean killing over 10,000 innocent iraqi's then he has done a wonderful job of doing just that. hrmm... people who attacked our right to live... last time i remember iraq didn't attack us, nor threaten us in any way (except maybe to limit the amount of oil exports), it was al qaeda.

Saddam's forces constantly fired on American and British jet fighters enforcing the U.N. no-fly zone in Iraq during the 90s. Not exactly what I consider harmless acts. It's a miracle no American or British planes were brought down.

And another thing to remember...Saddam Hussein had provided funding, training, and safe haven to terrorists for years, including al Qaeda.

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Originally posted by Wheel of Steel the only reason i can think of to vote for bush if if you're making over 200 grand a year which i doubt many here are, but besides that even if you were there are other things more important in my book, like safety. I CAN'T SEE HOW BUSH CAMPAIGNS ON A PLATFORM OF NATIONAL SECURITY WHEN THE TERRORIST ATTACK 9/11 WAS ENTIRELY HIS FAULT, I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THIS, THE FIRST TIME WE WERE ATTACKED SINCE 1812 ON OUR SOIL AND OUR PRESIDENT POINTS FINGERS......BE A MAN BUSH, STOP TRYING TO COVER IT UP, YOU FUCKED UP. BE A MAN. HE HASN'T DONE ONE POSTIVE THING FOR US, ALL HE'S DONE OS FUCK UP, AND YES HE CAN'T EVEN TALK RIGHT.

It's not entirely his fault. Clinton is also at fault since he had many chances to get Osama during his two-term presidency.

bush... no question

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Originally posted by das_Mario The U.N. has lost credibility and cannot be trusted. It is corrupt and nothing more than a defense league for terrorists and dictators.

this is a prime example of an ignorant and uninformed post.

yes, the UN security counctil may be rather useless right now. ut the un is not just the security council. have you any idea how much the un does in terms of humanitarian aid, refugee management decolonization and the like?

I'm so sick of people like you ranting on and on about how the un is so pointless when in fact you have NO IDEA what the un is or does.

grow up.

And to all of you who really think that the us is going to be safer if bush stays in office for four more years...you're all kidding yourselves.

if bush can't even go after the REALLY IMPORTANT people like Kim Jong Il, and that other guy...OSAMA BIN LADEN, then how much safer do you really think the country will be in 2008?

Here are the latest odds according to the World Sports Exchange on the election:

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Originally posted by Bloodflower wow im scared what they all did to your heads that still such alot of you vote for bush...

me too... Kerry for President!!

Many great points from everyone. To me, they both suck and either way, our country is going to be deprived once again of a good commander-in-chief. The sad part and probably the scariest part of the whole thing is that you have to pick one of them!! It sucks to be placed in our position. It's like we have to pick the best of the worst. How oxy-moronic is that? Pretty Sad.

I would vote Bush because I don't agree with changing Presidents during a time of war. Regardless if you agree or disagree with the war doesn't change the fact that we are engaged in it. To change such a position as President would be detrimental and leave the USA in a vulnerable position. I don't agree with Bush & I think Keery is a liar. Let's just hope we can have someone good run in 2008. The way I look at it, that's our only saving grace.

One comment on this whole 9/11 thing. Let's not forget that we were bombed on our homeland and our actions in regard to Afghanastan after were in self defense/retalliation. I still see no valid explanation for being in Iraq, other than to remove Sadam Hussein out of office. Whether right or wrong, what did you expect us to do? Did you think we were just gonna sit back and not do anything. If you did, you're in a dreamland. War is def. not the answer, but sometimes you have no other choice.

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Originally posted by DR86 yes, the UN security counctil may be rather useless right now. ut the un is not just the security council. have you any idea how much the un does in terms of humanitarian aid, refugee management decolonization and the like? I'm so sick of people like you ranting on and on about how the un is so pointless when in fact you have NO IDEA what the un is or does. grow up.

The U.N. Oil-For-Food scandal is a prime example of how far the U.N. has fallen. It's absolutely disgusting!

BTW...just because some people do not believe liberal propaganda does not make them immature and ignorant.

And one more thing...check your spelling before you post!

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Originally posted by das_Mario Have you heard of the U.N. Oil For Food scandal?

oh my, a dictator engaged in some (comparatively) minor profiteering -- let's scrap the entire organization

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Originally posted by Konijn Island oh my, a dictator engaged in some (comparatively) minor profiteering -- let's scrap the entire organization

Saddam stealing $2 billion dollars? No...that is not small change!

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Originally posted by das_Mario Saddam stealing $2 billion dollars? No...that is not small change!

i said comparatively mate: compared to my salary, it's a quite a lot; compared to how much bechtel and halliburton have snatched through sealed, no-bid contracts, not so much

incidentally, your links to fox news are oozing credibility

back to kerry/bush now...

ok.. so how many of you are acctually gonna vote. i know a lot of people our age (18- mid 20's) say they would vote for someone but never really do. my vote goes to kerry. and lets seriously get out there and vote.

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Originally posted by das_Mario The U.N. Oil-For-Food scandal is a prime example of how far the U.N. has fallen. It's absolutely disgusting! BTW...just because some people do not believe liberal propaganda does not make them immature and ignorant. And one more thing...check your spelling before you post!

yeah, God forbid i spell council wrong once..

and how exactly are the workings of the UN liberal propaganda? did i not say in my previous post that the security council isn't really effective?

c'mon man...stop with this left-wing conspiracy bullshit.

if it were up to me, the US would remove itself from the UN and we would force them to move their headquarters to a different country ~~ mabye France would be appropriate. Its filled with third world countries who are our adversaries.

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Originally posted by PVD_S11DJ if it were up to me, the US would remove itself from the UN and we would force them to move their headquarters to a different country ~~ mabye France would be appropriate. Its filled with third world countries who are our adversaries.

aim bitch

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