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"counterfact"

god american english is full of bull shit euphemisms...
what the hell is a counterfact? something that proves a fact wrong? wtf. a fact by definition is a FACT and is true

i have to agree with Crazy Serb here...
what's all this non sense about micheal moore being the most biased man in the planet.. everyone is biased.. if you have a point of view on something, that's bias too.. i guess this is the rights lame attempt at trying to argue against moore's point of view, they know he's right for the most part so they're just gonna launch personal attacks and pull some lame shit like that.. the oldest lamest trick in the book.. "shit we can't find any valid counter argument, so we're just gonna attack him"

...you do realize there are like thousands upon thousands of information against michael moore. i mean they could most likely liquidate him for treason if they felt like it, but all this country needs is another media struggle. The Rights, God Bless and Perserve them!

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z "counterfact" god american english is full of bull shit euphemisms... what the hell is a counterfact? something that proves a fact wrong? wtf. a fact by definition is a FACT and is true

he doesnt lie, he just leave out some facts, ie bias... couterfacts (the word probably made up by me? ) are the facts that shows what he left out.

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Originally posted by Crazy Serb no, you shouldn't, and don't automatically assume that my opinion expressed above is based ONLY on the Moore's material...

well, your first post was certainly implying that

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Originally posted by Crazy Serb btw, it would be nice to see in 2005 Al Qaeda actually do something instead of just sending out tapes... like blow up a few oil wells here and there, fuck up that deal for the pipeline bringing in all that oil to the States... I'm just curious how would that affect the big players in this business.

Well, that oil also goes to Canada and other Western nations. So you hope that people get killed and that oil prices go even higher throwing another wrench in the world economy.

Remember Allah kills and Jesus saves! (Let the backlash begin!)

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z i have to agree with Crazy Serb here... what's all this non sense about micheal moore being the most biased man in the planet.. everyone is biased.. if you have a point of view on something, that's bias too.. i guess this is the rights lame attempt at trying to argue against moore's point of view, they know he's right for the most part so they're just gonna launch personal attacks and pull some lame shit like that.. the oldest lamest trick in the book.. "shit we can't find any valid counter argument, so we're just gonna attack him"

59 Decits in Farenheit 9/11

This website outlines the lies, spin and ignored facts of his film. It is also available to download in Czech, French, Italian and Swedish, for all of you international folks.

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This essay comes from the Independence Institute, a think-tank in Colorado which is founded on the principles of the Declaration of Independence (www.independenceinstitute. org). The author, Dave Kopel, is a life-long Democrat who endorsed and voted for Ralph Nader in 2000. He supports some but not all aspects of the current war on terror.

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Originally posted by Reverend_Trance This essay comes from the Independence Institute, a think-tank in Colorado which is founded on the principles of the Declaration of Independence (www.independenceinstitute. org). The author, Dave Kopel, is a life-long Democrat who endorsed and voted for Ralph Nader in 2000. He supports some but not all aspects of the current war on terror.

Need I say more about the validity, subjectivity and bias of his "essay"?

And yeah, saying "Yeah, Moore is wrong because he's a fat pig" is really smart... still doesn't change my opinion of the facts he brings up, and any other source of news for that matter. Anyone seen "Control Room"?


Actually, fuck it... forget about Moore, forget about all these Newspapers, independent or not, international or not, whatever source of info, forget about it. Just look at the hard facts that all of those sources would agree on: Bush family, their involvemenet with Saudis (and not just any Saudis, but Bin Laden family!), the corporations they own, what those corporations are offering/selling, who might have an interest in what... then throw in the picture the Bush's response to the attacks (spending those 27 minutes with children while the planes were hitting NY), people that he is surrounded with and people that he appoints to certain spots in his gov't or embassies around the world. Hell, just look at him while he's answering the reporters' questions, making speeches, etc. Any 5 year old kid would be able to connect the dots and figure out there's much more than the public is being fed, and that Bush is hiding a whole lot. Example - trying to stop the inquiry on 9/11 attacks. And then later not co-operating with the people leading the inquiry (I actually read a couple of pages on that in TIME mag).

Just think for a minute with your own head... let go of any previous beliefs for a minute, and look at it from a neutral perspective. At least that's how the rest of the world views Bush and the facts surrounding him and his family.

:goes to Micky D's ...sees Michael Moore stuffing his face cursing out Corporate America: ...hmmm

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