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I love the tutorial, but if you dont mind me asking, where did you get the kick in that tutorial?

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Originally posted by onceler I love the tutorial, but if you dont mind me asking, where did you get the kick in that tutorial?

It's a combination of about 3 different kicks.

How about doing a 'kick combining' tutorial? I can usually finally get a decent one with 2 kicks, but never as good as the sample

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Originally posted by RIPassion How about doing a 'kick combining' tutorial? I can usually finally get a decent one with 2 kicks, but never as good as the sample

I don't know, really - the main thing is to have good samples to begin with, I guess. Sometimes the same kick can sound very different in different tracks. I've used this same one in several productions and it's never really sounded quite the way it does in this particular track.

So true

I've been drumming a LONG >.< time and it took me a while to realize the huge amount of ways (almost all) and why dance music differs. There's tons of stuff involved. People may say dance percussion is all the same but they never get a chance to look past the simple patterns (sometimes not simple) and turn up the music and feel it thump

A cool thing that just worked (I just started working on something awesome tonight, I hope i can share with you guys eventually ): Build a drum beat (like first page of this thread, except with a lot more stuff (not dissing your first page stuff; it owns)) and build your lead around that and get going from there. If you make a thumping enough and awesome beat, you can both tune your track to it (if that makes sense) and build the rhythm specific to your drums. Really shows the musicality (+10 cool new word) of drums, even in dance music.

i'm rea;;y struggling to follow any of the links to this or even see the pics.......any idea whats up?

The tutorial is pretty old now, the links are probably down for good.
Maybe it's time for part 2?

When do we get to see part II ??????


oh ya, THANK YOU

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Originally posted by syk0 When do we get to see part II ?????? oh ya, THANK YOU

Jeez change your attitude

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Originally posted by syk0 When do we get to see part II ?????? oh ya, THANK YOU

When I finish my army service, maybe?

Jeez, don't be so lazy, I'm not the only one who can write tutorials here...

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Oh, btw - the links should be back up shortly, right after the payment of the server space has cleared (probably in the morning).

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Jeez, don't be so lazy, I'm not the only one who can write tutorials here...

Well said - if you have seen the threads recently there are a lot of people struggling with percussion at the moment (me included!) and more tutorials likeyours would be soooooo helpful.
Come on guys - this forum is all about helping people!!

MP

Right then...

If I was to make an another perc tips thread... what sort of stuff would you guys want in it? What kind of things do you need help with?

Now, I am not going to do any tutorials/tips on how to make the actual sounds and/or where to get the samples from but I'm more than willing to help with the patterns, breakbeats, how to make your drums sit in the track etc.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Right then... If What kind of things do you need help with? I'm more than willing to help with the patterns, breakbeats, how to make your drums sit in the track etc.

ALL OF THE ABOVE!!!

The one thing i found hard to follow was where your hats etc sit on the piano roll - the pictures on your tutorial were hard to understand - maybe its because I use Cubase though..?

Everyone has given me loads of advice about adjusting pitch etc but dont know how to go about it - thats something I'd like to learn please!

In fact... ANY more help you can give would be fantastic!!

MP

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Originally posted by MessiahProject ALL OF THE ABOVE!!! The one thing i found hard to follow was where your hats etc sit on the piano roll - the pictures on your tutorial were hard to understand - maybe its because I use Cubase though..?

It's not that complicated, really. Take this pic for example:



The pattern in question is 2 bars long (just like all the other samples in the tutorial) - from bar 310 to 312 as seen on top of the pic. It's then divided to 1/4th of a bar with the longer lines on the top and even further to 1/16th of a bar with the shorter lines. Very simple

I'd imagine all sequencers work more or less the same way.

In any case, I'll see if I can cook up a tutorial within the next couple of weeks. I'm not promising anything seeing how little spare time I have these days but I'll try.

I've been drumming a long time now and even if you don't know anything about drumming, it couldn't hurt to pick up a book of the 26 basic drumming rudiments and learning ways to alter them (or I'm sure you could look them all up online). For example, the hi hat pattern playing above is a triple paradiddle, and works well with the closed hat samples he posted. The drumming rudiments apply to sticking (left vs. right hand) as well as rhythm, but in the electronic producing realm, that can be applied to innumerable situations, one of them being mystery's

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery It's not that complicated, really. Take this pic for example: The pattern in question is 2 bars long (just like all the other samples in the tutorial) - from bar 310 to 312 as seen on top of the pic. It's then divided to 1/4th of a bar with the longer lines on the top and even further to 1/16th of a bar with the shorter lines. Very simple I'd imagine all sequencers work more or less the same way. In any case, I'll see if I can cook up a tutorial within the next couple of weeks. I'm not promising anything seeing how little spare time I have these days but I'll try.

Mate that wud be awesome, i know loadsa people would be well happy if u put up another tutorial, me especially. ur 1st 1 helped loads. Somethin with some breakz wud be wicked if u cud.

this is an excellent tutorial if i must say so myself, thanks for taking the time out mr mystery.

very good work look forward to more from you.

hmm, why the bad vibes? I was not being sarcastic when I said thank you. And if you name something "Part 1" people are going to expect a part two!

But we got some more discussion, and that was to goal!


PS - why would I ask a person to write a tutorial if I could write one myself?

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery It's not that complicated, really. Take this pic for example: The pattern in question is 2 bars long (just like all the other samples in the tutorial) - from bar 310 to 312 as seen on top of the pic. It's then divided to 1/4th of a bar with the longer lines on the top and even further to 1/16th of a bar with the shorter lines. Very simple I'd imagine all sequencers work more or less the same way. In any case, I'll see if I can cook up a tutorial within the next couple of weeks. I'm not promising anything seeing how little spare time I have these days but I'll try.

Do you have a .rns file on this tutorial?

So i sorta followed the tutorial...

...came up with this, see what u guys think.

RIGHT CLICK, SAVE AS...

Terry

Thanks guys for this super tutorial, it`s been the best by far and big up the guy who started it its really special.

Respect Man u are an instant winner in my books!!!
If I complete my 1st track trance track I will most defiantly add u to a list of people who deserve some reaction.

very nice tutorial mate. but as someone asked before could you post a .rns file if possible. thanks. but trying to work it out but it just doesnt sound like yours.

cheers!

Hey Mystery,

That was great!!!
Thats what i really needed,some help.....step by step.
Its perfect the way you put it together.Its great to hear everything separetly and then all together,to hear how it sounds.

Keep those tutorials coming.I also think the veterans should be helping more out....doing more tutorials etc.
you might just give some guy inspiration and one day he will make a killer track that youll love.After all we are on the same Transtastic team....right?
I also intend to post some stuff i learnt the other day that helped me tremendously.

By the way Mystery,do you have any tracks that you produced.That sample that you gave was outstanding!!!

Thanks again and i truly appreciate it.

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Originally posted by technoman By the way Mystery,do you have any tracks that you produced.That sample that you gave was outstanding!!!

Sure, there's a couple of links in my sig.

As for the rns file:
I'm not really sure I can give that out. Firstly, it's a remix of a track of friends of mine and I'm not sure they want me to put it up. I could also cut away everything but the percs but then there's the issue of all the ReFills used that I'd also need to put up as well as some samples I wouldn't really want to give away...

appreciate what your saying mate. even if you could label which are closed hats and open hats and which are shakers etc. in your tutorial i think it just says sample1, sample2 and so on. if your could let me know which percussion elements slot into each part of your tutorial that would be much appreciated.

thanks

Kane

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