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imo guys in pink are hot!

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf I totally agree with Floorfiller on this one. I don't own a pink shirt, but I do own a lavender button-up shirt.

well of course you do...you got great taste hehehehe

I say we give women 100% exclusive rights to pink.

Look at it this way. Do you really want the right to wear a dress? I don't, does that make me a homophobe because I think that style of clothing is exclusively suited to women? Dresses are a style of clothing that flatters the female form, and looks horrible on guys.

Pastel coloured clothing came and went with Miami Vice... good riddance I say

I think its cool to wear pink, but dont over do it.

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Originally posted by Radagast ...and as we all know, the color of the clothes someone wears is comparable to racism in many ways.

Not in a literal sense, of course.

But from a lot of the comments on this thread, it seems as though some people would be afraid to talk to a guy wearing a pink shirt. Hell, I knew kids in High School who were so homophobic, they were afraid to talk to my math teacher because all he wore was pink and lime T-shirts. I was pointing out the parallels with wearing certain-colored clothing and racism to illustrate that the perception of color is a myth in many senses - most of them having to do with false pretenses stemming from illogical prejudices involving traditional gender roles.

My reaction to such judgement was similar to my reaction when people are afraid of skin color, to such a degree, that they have set up certain barriers in their mind limiting their judgement based on looks, alone.

I swear, people are like peacocks - only basing things on the color and breadth of each others' plumage.

It would be nice if humans could move past all of it, but until then...

some guys can pull off pink, and some can't.

I'm into lime green at the moment.

Pink seems to be in fashion in many parts, and I wore a bit until I went out for a drink with a girl and she said that she absolutely hates pink shirts on guys, sure it may only be one girl, but I moved my preferences on a little.

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Originally posted by Vlad I think its cool to wear pink, but dont over do it.

i don't like that shirt...it's ugly

WHAAAT are you all on about?? Gay? What?

My boyfriend's pink button down with blue stripes makes me wanna jump him every time... now if you think THAT'S gay, congratulations!

Holy shit... can't think of anything hotter, except maybe a nice crisp white button down.

Hot pink shirts: www.abercrombie.com

My bf's:

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On It would be nice if humans could move past all of it, but until then... some guys can pull off pink, and some can't.

Why not wear a dress then? Can't all of your arguments about free access to colour be applied to clothing styles? Shouldn't society move past the limitations that says dresses are only for women? Women can wear suits, so why not men wear dresses?

Imagine going to a wedding in 100 years and half the guys are wearing frilly dresses because we've "lost our predjudice against cuts of cloth that the barbarians of the 21st century had!"

Men and Women are different (thank god). Why the need to homogenize everything?

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Originally posted by Subey Why not wear a dress then? Can't all of your arguments about free access to colour be applied to clothing styles? Shouldn't society move past the limitations that says dresses are only for women? Women can wear suits, so why not men wear dresses? Imagine going to a wedding in 100 years and half the guys are wearing frilly dresses because we've "lost our predjudice against cuts of cloth that the barbarians of the 21st century had!" Men and Women are different (thank god). Why the need to homogenize everything?

It all comes down to what is socially acceptable.

Quite often the differences between genders can squeeze in a little during periods of gender imbalance and equality.

Some hazard theories that females have had many years of moving from being severely socially disadvantaged to being closer to equal treatment, and athough there are still many areas such as careers in business and politics where women are still prejudiced, in social situations not many people would disagree that women are the dominant players.

The trend toward men being metrosexual and wearing clothes that would normally be the domain of women provides evidence of males are becoming a little more empowered.

Or, pink just looks good on some guys.

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Originally posted by t�bias It all comes down to what is socially acceptable. Quite often the differences between genders can squeeze in a little during periods of gender imbalance and equality. Some hazard theories that females have had many years of moving from being severely socially disadvantaged to being closer to equal treatment, and athough there are still many areas such as careers in business and politics where women are still prejudiced, in social situations not many people would disagree that women are the dominant players. The trend toward men being metrosexual and wearing clothes that would normally be the domain of women provides evidence of males are becoming a little more empowered. Or, pink just looks good on some guys.

You're not credible on this topic as evidenced by your Italian football thread.

I have a pink dress shirt that I wear all the time. And the girls love it, trust me on that

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i don't like that shirt...it's ugly

I was already on their site, it was an example...

Abercrombie has plenty of nice shirts.

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Originally posted by Subey Why not wear a dress then? Can't all of your arguments about free access to colour be applied to clothing styles? Shouldn't society move past the limitations that says dresses are only for women? Women can wear suits, so why not men wear dresses? Imagine going to a wedding in 100 years and half the guys are wearing frilly dresses because we've "lost our predjudice against cuts of cloth that the barbarians of the 21st century had!" Men and Women are different (thank god). Why the need to homogenize everything?

I don't wear dresses because most of them look quite uncomfortable. When clothing is too loose, it tends to get caught on things, which would cut down on a lot of effeciency if I needed to get somewhere quickly. I don't attend formal events often, either - so there's truly no real reason as to why I would need to don loose, flowing clothing as an aesthetic statement.

Don't try to scare me with thoughts of what the future might be if men wore dresses, either - it's not that frightening of a thought when you think of humans as individuals and not as just a homogenized culture or gender. I will admit that men and women are different - there's no contesting that, but let that be decided by the person, not what they wear or necessarily what they look like.

Perhaps I have been a catalyst in heightening this discussion to levels by which it wasn't intended though. I'll be real about things - I don't wear clothes designed for women, as it would be a tougher existence trying to live past the labels placed on me, and I don't get off on transvestiteism either - it sorta makes things harder to be sexually aroused by wearing the "opposite" gender's clothing when you truly pay the concept little heed. What I am talking about though is, as usual, ideals. We don't live in an ideal world, but ideals have steered the human race into doing both great and horrible deeds in the past - what other recourse do we have? Perhaps I am living in a fantasy land where there are no barriers between souls though - am I ahead or behind? For I honestly do not know...

All I know is, these things such as clothing and skin color and genetics - they're all "sticky" things. We are so much more than that, yet we, as a species, dwell on them regardless. Part of me wants to move past it so badly; it pains me to see you people talk about them and it pains me to see people hurt in this world because of such materialistic ideas of the self. Move past it.

In a socio-ideal sense though (one that is, by the very nature therof, ephemeral) males should not wear pink. It's for women because, on a primal level, much like red, it is utilized by mammals to signify the readiness of its bearer because of its correlation to the color of the nubile human female vagina.

gay people dont even wear pink...

pink yellow, i got it all.

only two pink shirts i own.. the T is hilarious

EDIT:::: i'd just like to add that i never wear the T though

i got the first one.

No posts from the infamous Mr. Pink in this thread...

....kind of a shame

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Originally posted by tribu No posts from the infamous Mr. Pink in this thread... ....kind of a shame

speaking of Mr. Pink, i havent seen him post in a really long time

Re: Pink is cool for guys?

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Originally posted by DemonicAardvark i remember a previous ta post on guys wearing pink and during the past couple of days i've seen several asian guys wearing pink. No not a pink dress shirt thats not that fukt up. But theres this asian guy in one of my classes that wears a nike shoe with a pink nike logo and pink laces..... then today i went shopping and i saw this other asian guy with a pink baseball cap wtf is that and his friend had pink streaks in his hair. wtf . Where do they get their idea of wearing pink is cool? like they are a rebel or something. might as well wear a dress to be big rebel. or maybe pantyhose to be real hardcore.

What's the big deal? Pink is a colour like any other. I like the fact that it's being liked more now within some male communities (Korea & Japan?), as it balances things out.

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Originally posted by Subey I say we give women 100% exclusive rights to pink. Look at it this way. Do you really want the right to wear a dress? I don't, does that make me a homophobe because I think that style of clothing is exclusively suited to women? Dresses are a style of clothing that flatters the female form, and looks horrible on guys. Pastel coloured clothing came and went with Miami Vice... good riddance I say

This whole paragraph is sexism and is very insulting. Why not give everyone a choice? So what if you or other might not like a colour or design -- IT'S NOT YOU WEARING IT! I'm sick of people doing things like this just in the name of the rest of society. Can't anyone think of how _they alone_ feel anymore?

My cousin just two days ago was over and four out of six people in a room told her that she had to fix her hair (only because they thought it didn't look nice) when it turns out that my cousin likes it like that and I told her that's ALL THAT MATTERS. She thanked me and gave me a hug. The end. Full stop.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On All I know is, these things such as clothing and skin color and genetics - they're all "sticky" things. We are so much more than that, yet we, as a species, dwell on them regardless. Part of me wants to move past it so badly; it pains me to see you people talk about them and it pains me to see people hurt in this world because of such materialistic ideas of the self. Move past it. In a socio-ideal sense though (one that is, by the very nature therof, ephemeral) males should not wear pink. It's for women because, on a primal level, much like red, it is utilized by mammals to signify the readiness of its bearer because of its correlation to the color of the nubile human female vagina.

You live in two extremes. You want to reduce things to pure animalistic symbolism, or try to extrapolate with a human mind what life might be like at higher levels of consciousness.

1)We aren't animals, so looking for too many answers there is problematic and reduces us to purely pavlovian mechanistic robots. We have transcended the animal state, and in that transition all previous symbols are transformed. Reducing all women who wear red into women on the prowl demeans both them, and the colour. If you want to pereceive yourself as being limited in that way, that is your choice, but know it will warp all your pereceptions.
2)You don't have an "ultimate" consciousness. Your a human. Trying to imagine what such a thing would be like is very problematic. Any attempt to do so will be just as warped. Thinking you have the mental abilities to conceive of such is just as foolish.

Its fun to think about consciousness in both directions, but rememeber at the end of the day your perspective will always be limited to that of a human male, and that's a bias you can't get rid of.

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Originally posted by ali92 This whole paragraph is sexism and is very insulting. Why not give everyone a choice? So what if you or other might not like a colour or design -- IT'S NOT YOU WEARING IT! I'm sick of people doing things like this just in the name of the rest of society. Can't anyone think of how _they alone_ feel anymore?

Alright, say I show up at your wedding in a Bright Pink tuxedo. Guess what, the only memory people are going to take home of your big night is me and my garrish outfit, and you'll have to defend me because I was wearing it to demonstrate my personality.

Society isn't a cage whose sole purpose is to limit your freedom of expression. It's goal is to facilitate social interaction. In a universe of ONE you wouldn't need society... thankfully we need it.

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Originally posted by ali92 My cousin just two days ago was over and four out of six people in a room told her that she had to fix her hair (only because they thought it didn't look nice) when it turns out that my cousin likes it like that and I told her that's ALL THAT MATTERS. She thanked me and gave me a hug. The end. Full stop.

If that happened to me, i'd say "really? I kinda like it, what's wrong with it? is it dated? Does it not suit my face?", I wouldn't look at this group as a bunch of people who want to make me feel bad, I'd hope they were a group that wanted me to look my best.

The point of shows like Queer Eye for the Straight guy is to say that sometimes we are clueless about the way we communicate through clothing and appearance, and that outside advice should be seen as a helping hand.

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Originally posted by Subey You live in two extremes. You want to reduce things to pure animalistic symbolism, or try to extrapolate with a human mind what life might be like at higher levels of consciousness. 1)We aren't animals, so looking for too many answers there is problematic and reduces us to purely pavlovian mechanistic robots. We have transcended the animal state, and in that transition all previous symbols are transformed. Reducing all women who wear red into women on the prowl demeans both them, and the colour. If you want to pereceive yourself as being limited in that way, that is your choice, but know it will warp all your pereceptions. 2)You don't have an "ultimate" consciousness. Your a human. Trying to imagine what such a thing would be like is very problematic. Any attempt to do so will be just as warped. Thinking you have the mental abilities to conceive of such is just as foolish. Its fun to think about consciousness in both directions, but rememeber at the end of the day your perspective will always be limited to that of a human male, and that's a bias you can't get rid of.

Yes, I agree with you, but I think my last paragraph was misinterpreted. As I pointed out, we are primal on a very socio-idealistic sense, not necessarily the one by which I choose to view the world. As a being possessing at least some consciousness, I was merely recognizing the opposite of my thinking.

Humans don't consciously abide by color-patterns anymore, as it's really more of an instinctual thing. The human in me recognizes this as a trait for a homo-sapien; a rather degraded characterization of humanity, don't you think? They are one and the same, yes, but certain considerations differentiate the two - mainly conscious and sub-conscious sentience, for I believe that we possess both the potential and the prerogative for both. Consideration is a strange and debatable thing, but I don't believe we should just give up on it, acknowledging the existence of human limitation - that, in itself, is a limitation; a mental-placebo for prejudice, if you will.

Plus, that last paragraph was really more of a red-herring than anything.

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