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Posted by torontobarfly on Nov-30-2004 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by djshan
its not about overcrowdness, its about how much space you have. and im sure that a club which is bigger than guv will sell more tikets than guv, and at the same time there would be enough room to move around. the guv needs to exapnd a bit more in order to provide extra space for the pupils, and also if they do that they can even sell more tiks than they do now.

bingo!

Posted by VERTiG0 on Nov-30-2004 23:15:

The room at The Docks for Halloween when Dumonde came on was PERFECT. Lots and lots of space, but lots of people too.

Posted by trancehed99 on Nov-30-2004 23:40:

Guv blows no matter who's in there... even if its Rank 1 vs Lange vs PVD vs AVB vs etc etc I wouldt step foot in that lame excuse for a party venue. No fung shway no fuckin way! - haha i just made that up.

KH rocks my world, and I'm there for any trance party.
I will be at tiesto however -

MO is an icon, but I cant stand the guv so I never see him.

Posted by monishb on Nov-30-2004 23:44:

Posted by lit-tle_carrie on Dec-01-2004 01:01:

this thread has some serious crap in it.

rabbitjoker are you serious? you think mark is MAKING anyone choose? the 11th his his last solo saturday to actually do the gift so i think its a great day...it just so happens that its the same day that one of the most over rated djs in the world is here.

how do you think that the docks will compensate for the money tiesto is taking from them at the door?

anyone whos going to teisto just so 'they can say they went'...you'll be disappointed.

classics night will be less packed, and way more fun because it brings nostalgia. that is way more excitment than what you will be feeling at the docks. you'll be so close to people you won't know if its you sweating or them.

mark all the way, regardless of what people think of the 'guvs' attitude, i go for a brilliant dj and good times. the attitude is what you make it.

Posted by LKD on Dec-01-2004 01:38:

quote:
Originally posted by lit-tle_carrie

anyone whos going to teisto just so they can say 'they went'...you'll be disappointed.

Posted by torontobarfly on Dec-01-2004 01:58:

quote:
Originally posted by lit-tle_carrie
this thread has some serious crap in it.

rabbitjoker are you serious? you think mark is MAKING anyone choose? the 11th his his last solo saturday to actually do the gift so i think its a great day...it just so happens that its the same day that one of the most over rated djs in the world is here.

how do you think that the docks will compensate for the money tiesto is taking from them at the door?

anyone whos going to teisto just so 'they can say they went'...you'll be disappointed.

classics night will be less packed, and way more fun because it brings nostalgia. that is way more excitment than what you will be feeling at the docks. you'll be so close to people you won't know if its you sweating or them.

mark all the way, regardless of what people think of the 'guvs' attitude, i go for a brilliant dj and good times. the attitude is what you make it.

i doubt many people are going just to say they were there...as to whether they'll be disappointed why not wait for the reviews...last time at docks he killed it, very few people were disappointed!

"you'll be so close to people you won't know if it's you sweating or them"??? are you serious? this coming from a guv supporter,lol...too funny... the docks has lots of room to escape the crowds, something guv can't claim...

Posted by BANDIT on Dec-01-2004 02:18:

I started my first party with TIESTO @ the DOCKS and I will continue my tradition, ahhh wintergalactic what memories (yahel - voyage) rings a bell

Posted by rabbitjoker on Dec-01-2004 03:08:

quote:
Originally posted by lit-tle_carrie
rabbitjoker are you serious? you think mark is MAKING anyone choose? the 11th his his last solo saturday to actually do the gift so i think its a great day...it just so happens that its the same day that one of the most over rated djs in the world is here.

I know that Mark is not -actually- making one choose. Nobody is making anybody choose.

I'm sure the day that what chosen for the gift has 1001 reasons (that I'm not aware of) for being chosen. Sorry if I offended anybody - that wasn't the objective.

You're talking to a person that usually shows up the minute the doors open @ Guv - just so I can stand by the stack and dance to the wonderful openers Mark plays.

I guess I'm just disappointed that I personally won't be able to share in one of Mark's most special performances of the year. the gift is just that.

Mark - rock it out on the 11th! Wish I could be there.

Posted by itikia on Dec-01-2004 03:23:

Found this in Chill Out...

quote:
Originally posted by lit-tle_carrie
I'm posting under Carrie's name cause the admin's havent signed me up yet so here we go...

OK...I've seen Tiesto 3 times in the last yr and a half...and he's not anything spcl...

AND I SAW HIM IN IBIZA!!!

look...

Mark promised that he would take us on and emotional journey of memories and fun on the 11th with the tracks that made it all happen....DEPENDING on the turnout...

He wants to know that it will be appreciated...And if the regulars ditch us for the frickin DOCKS!!!...then the loyal folk will get screwed...

Heres the deal...go on msg boards...tell him you want your Gift...

Come to Guv...the original superclub...and show your support...

Do not help this egomaniac get his prize..(did you know that Tiesto is NOT getting paid conventionally but is actually getting a HUGE chunk of the door)

Mark Oliver is 10 x's better and actually cares about his fans...He just wants to know that we all care just as much...

Support the Gift...

Support Mark Oliver...

Guvernment Dec 11th...

ALSO...the night of my bday...email me for guestlist and you'll get comped at the door as well as wristband access to the private stage...

Thats all I have to say about that...

Nick
www.luvtheguv.com
www.theguvernment.com

Posted by dallastar on Dec-01-2004 03:32:

my choice

well... i have told tonnes of people about Tiesto Party at the Docks and i can go see MO anytime (sorry Mark *~*) btu my choice is the Docks over any classics..

xx.those that know will go! xx

Posted by torontobarfly on Dec-01-2004 03:33:

lmao @ nick..... how classy of a promoter to come in and trash the competition while begging for people to show up to the guv in other threads....pretty lame

credibility = 0

Posted by VERTiG0 on Dec-01-2004 03:42:

quote:
Originally posted by lit-tle_carrie
insert a bunch of stuff here

So, do you work for/at The Guv or something?

Posted by torontobarfly on Dec-01-2004 03:50:

he promotes for them....

thats why he's trashing tiesto and the docks

Posted by VERTiG0 on Dec-01-2004 04:05:

quote:
Originally posted by torontobarfly
he promotes for them....

thats why he's trashing tiesto and the docks

Oh, well then everything he says is null and void.

Also mister guv promoter man, you may want to let your management know that with this excessive overcrowding they've been doing lately has been drawing away the desirable crowd, the people who go for the music.

Soon enough, it'll be just sketch heads who go.

Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Dec-01-2004 04:19:

i dont belive i'll say this:

tiesto!

even tho i fucking hate him, and even more i hate his music, my friend told me he's good, and i'll have to see it for myself + i'll never go to guv again, like i said it before FUCK THAT SHIT, never ever again + we have b-day to celebrate @ the docks.

but i'll bet my last buck that he'll suck like nobody has ever sucked before...

Posted by samhouse on Dec-01-2004 04:27:

ok
so we are always coming up with threads to support our locals...and heres a chance to do it...yet everyone seems to get on Nicks back when all hes doing is promoting one of the best djs this country has seen...So what if tiesto is playing at the docks..let him play..Nick did nothing wrong with that thread..

I started this thread to let people know what could happen if they were at guv on the 11th..anyone who thinks itll be rammed is sadly mistaken...that will be the docks...all Nick and myself have done is present a choice...it is upto you to make it...now some of you have..while others are blowing this bullshit way out of proportion...just like some of you usually do...

for fucks sake..go to tiesto..have a good time...
we will do the same at guv

peace

Posted by samhouse on Dec-01-2004 04:28:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Oh, well then everything he says is null and void.

Also mister guv promoter man, you may want to let your management know that with this excessive overcrowding they've been doing lately has been drawing away the desirable crowd, the people who go for the music.

Soon enough, it'll be just sketch heads who go.

i heard someone say that 2 years ago...
there will always be people who go there for the music..others will stop going...new "music" lovers will take their place

Posted by rabbitjoker on Dec-01-2004 04:36:

Lil' Nickie - way to go, uber-promoter....

Take a lesson from the other promoters on TOTA (the ones we actually support) - they get tremendous support, without BS trash-talk or confrontational attitudes.

Posted by Tully on Dec-01-2004 04:36:

Nobody ever said this was a competition that�s what some of you made it out to be. As Samhouse said - do what you want to do and go where you will have fun BUT for those who would rather be at guv that night (like myself) this is an option you have. I think that it has been presented like this because Mark would like to share his classic night with everyone, but if there are not enough people out to enjoy it maybe he will save it for another day.

Everybody has the right to their own opinion including you.....so why take shots at people who are just voicing their own thoughts on a subject?

Posted by torontobarfly on Dec-01-2004 04:37:

quote:
Originally posted by samhouse
Nick did nothing wrong with that thread..

it's common practice for a promoter to trash the competiton in order to sway people to come to his event? i've never seen any LIGIT promoter do this....

Posted by rabbitjoker on Dec-01-2004 04:40:

quote:
Originally posted by torontobarfly
i've never seen any LIGIT promoter do this....

Lil' Nickie clearly has shown his "professionalism" - and it speaks volumes about his character.

Posted by lit-tle_carrie on Dec-01-2004 04:41:

This is Nick again

1...I am not a promoter in the employed way...I co-run the Guv's fansite www.luvtheguv.com and we promote events there...

2...I am NOT slagging the Docks...It is a great Venue...

3...If you think that the Docks will not be rammed that night, well, I forsee a big surprise...

The only way Tiesto would come to the Docks that night is if they give him A HUGE piece of the door (rumour has it 75-85%...that # is a rumour)...This guy is going to prolly going to make 100 G's plus in 6 hrs.

And The Docks mngmt will try and recoup some of that money by selling ALOT of tix...

We'll have to see what happens...

Look...I'm just trying to get ppl to support a local DJ who everyone knows is 1st rate...Tiesto is WAY over-rated and even DJ Mag is regretting choosing him as #1 in the world (their opinion of him due to an "incident" to follow)

The choice is up to you folks...I'm just suggesting a better alternative...

And its my B-day so I want a good turnout...

Hell...Do both...The Guvernment is not raising prices at all that night...

Nick
www.luvtheguv.com
www.theguvernment.com

ps...who's going to Zone in the morning??? Don't forget ADDY...

Posted by rabbitjoker on Dec-01-2004 04:47:

Re: This is Nick again

quote:
Originally posted by lit-tle_carrie
1...I am not a promoter in the employed way...I co-run the Guv's fansite www.luvtheguv.com and we promote events there...

IMO - Nice site, not all that classy co-owner (based on how you've responded here, could be wrong though, actions speak louder than words).

quote:
Originally posted by lit-tle_carrie
The only way Tiesto would come to the Docks that night is if they give him A HUGE piece of the door (rumour has it 75-85%...that # is a rumour)

Speak facts, not in BS "i heard from a friend, from a friend from a friend" crap.

Further - WTF does it matter how much any DJ makes. Free market economics rules.

quote:
Originally posted by lit-tle_carrie
I'm just trying to get ppl to support a local DJ who everyone knows is 1st rate...

You sure pick a piss-poor way to do it. Frankly I believe you've done Mark Oliver more of a dis-service by using tactics like you have (mind you, I don't speak for Mark Oliver, just myself).

We all know that Mark O is a damn machine, a phenominal DJ and a gentleman. We all respect him and adore the work he does - I think he knows that too by the number of TOTAs that show up early to hear him, and stay late to close the club with him.

quote:
Originally posted by lit-tle_carrie
Tiesto is WAY over-rated

Fine, then don't go. Most wouldn't want someone with your confrontational attitude there anyway.

Posted by torontobarfly on Dec-01-2004 04:50:

lol, if you're promoting the event at the guv and offering list you're a promoter......and trashing tiesto becuase he may take some of your regulars away is low....

who gives a shit how much he's making...why does it bother you so much...people want to go hear him spin and if he gets rich off it good for him...i find it funny that you tell people to be prepared for the docks to be rammed and yet the biggest complaint week after week is that the guv is a sardine factory...

worry less about what the competition is doing and spend more effort promoting your own product

that advice is free

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