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Posted by Dave Piazza on Dec-03-2004 02:59:

Underrated:


AlphaStarred illegal MP3 mixes


* don't be an asshole, buy the records/MP3 of the artists you spin.

and next time don't be so obvious in the illegal shit you do.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Dec-03-2004 03:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Piazza
under-rated:


AlphaStarred illegal MP3 mixes


* don't be an asshole, buy the records/MP3 of the artists you spin.

and next time don't be so obvious in the illegal shit you do.


wtf? am i mixing mp3s in a club? fuckin tit
i buy digital d/ls and cd-rs as well you baffoon...and its as though im the only one who mixes cds.. LoL

buy me tts and i'll gladly buy rekkids


Posted by Dave Piazza on Dec-03-2004 03:06:

quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
wtf? am i mixing mp3s in a club? fuckin tit


Whats the name of the club?


Posted by Furor Aquila on Dec-03-2004 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
WTF, this thread comes up once a month.

BTW, Oakie.


Not anymore. Most TAs agree that he sucks at DJing although he probably placed high in the top 100 poll.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Dec-03-2004 03:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Piazza
Whats the name of the club?



????


Posted by Dave Piazza on Dec-03-2004 03:28:

quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
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I just think its bullshit that a DJ would distributes a mix to the public with illegal tracks he got. Its unfair to the producer and unfair for dance music.

If your going to share a mix with the world atleast pay for the rights to do so.


Posted by tribu on Dec-03-2004 03:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Piazza
I just think its bullshit that a DJ would distributes a mix to the public with illegal tracks he got. Its unfair to the producer and unfair for dance music.

If your going to share a mix with the world atleast pay for the rights to do so.


I somewhat agree. Youre making a name for yourself, or establishing yourself as someone who gets tracks before theyre released. Thats fine and good if youre receiving promos, but if you dont have the artists permission, youre generating recognizability without paying for the right to do so.

To say that youre not the only one isnt an excuse.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Dec-03-2004 03:47:

quote:
Originally posted by tribu
I somewhat agree. Youre making a name for yourself, or establishing yourself as someone who gets tracks before theyre released. Thats fine and good if youre receiving promos, but if you dont have the artists permission, youre generating recognizability without paying for the right to do so.

To say that youre not the only one isnt an excuse.


from my mixes i haven't used a single track that wasn't yet released. and i'm not formulating any excuses...if you've something against my mixing mp3s cd-rs digital d/ls whatever the fuck you want to call them...don't listen to my mixes!

and like i aforementioned...if Dave Pizza wants to buy me tts i'll gladly buy all the records i employed as mp3s in my mixes heretofore...which are ALL released on vinyl.


Posted by tribu on Dec-03-2004 03:50:

quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
from my mixes i haven't used a single track that wasn't yet released. and i'm not formulating any excuses...if you've something against my mixing mp3s cd-rs digital d/ls whatever the fuck you want to call them...don't listen to my mixes!


Sorry, I think I misunderstood the situation. I have no problems with mixing cds, I used to have CD decks as well, till someone stole them from me. If youre using tracks you have some sort of permission (either through purchasing or the artist's consent) to use, then i have no problem with you distributing mixes. I took Dave Piazza's post to mean that you were downloading mp3s and playing them in your sets before the songs were released. This is not cool with me. So, if I misunderstood what is going on, I apologize.


Posted by Dave Piazza on Dec-03-2004 03:54:

quote:
Originally posted by tribu
I somewhat agree. Youre making a name for yourself, or establishing yourself as someone who gets tracks before theyre released. Thats fine and good if youre receiving promos, but if you dont have the artists permission, youre generating recognizability without paying for the right to do so.

To say that youre not the only one isnt an excuse.


this is exactly my point.


These assholes download illegal shit for free and pretend they are getting exclusinve promos while we 'real' dj's are like WTF this isnt in the store yet.


how is a real dj going to compete with someone who just downloads tracks for free when we have to pay $15 for a single track.


I hope when these assholes start to sell mix cds or release production work people just download their shit for free and piss on them.


Posted by trancebrat on Dec-03-2004 04:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Piazza
I just think its bullshit that a DJ would distributes a mix to the public with illegal tracks he got. Its unfair to the producer and unfair for dance music.

If your going to share a mix with the world atleast pay for the rights to do so.



Damn right


I am so over this mentality of "well I got it from blahdy blah and since it is in my possession I can do whatever I please with it...including putting it up for download so that other people can rip it as well". An unreleased track is an unreleased track. I'm not impressed with any idiot on here that obtains a track from any peer to peer group like Soul Seek or even from a promo if they use it in an attempt to make themselves look cool by putting it up for DL. Very uncool. All it does is make you look lame and pisses off the artists involved.


Posted by Shemeck on Dec-03-2004 04:35:

quote:
Originally posted by che
You can't be serious?


There is a huge difference in thinking that a DJ is overrated because you don't enjoy the music he spins and thinking that he's not a good DJ. Technically the DJs that the dude a few posts up posted (i.e. Zabiela, Sasha, Holden, JOOF, etc) are amazing. You can't say they are overrated simply because you don't enjoy their music.......IMO


zabiela does nothing special with his scratching.
90% of hip-hop djs can do it easily...

according to Markus. For me Markus has different sound than others, you can easily recognize his tracks, and thats what is all about, I've never met him, but from what I've seen (live) hes not full of himself, he enjoys what he is doing, not like PVD who seems that he is bored.


Posted by tribu on Dec-03-2004 04:37:

quote:
Originally posted by yogi bear
zabiela does nothing special with his scratching.
90% of hip-hop djs can do it easily...

according to Markus. For me Markus has different sound than others, you can easily recognize his tracks, and thats what is all about, I've never met him, but from I've seen (live) hes not full of himself, he enjoys what he is doing, not like PVD who seems that he is bored.


100% of hip hop Djs could not scratch with Zabielas record/cd-r collection.

45% of bderoom djs could beatmatch/mix just as well or better with Markus' cd-r/vinyl collection.

I like them both, though one more than the other.

From what I gather, Markus is rather full of his extremely rapid rise to popularity. But this is unrelated to his skills as a dj.


Posted by Danny Ocean on Dec-03-2004 07:29:

quote:
Originally posted by yogi bear
zabiela does nothing special with his scratching.
90% of hip-hop djs can do it easily...


ide like to see them try, and hes not just scratching, hes doing other shit with the sampler and the EFX at the same time while scratching, switching hands etc. If you think its nothing special you have obviously never heard him.


Posted by Screen on Dec-03-2004 07:35:

hmm

Gabriel & Dresden
Tiesto
Ferry Corsten
Nu Nrg


Posted by AlphaStarred on Dec-03-2004 08:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Piazza
this is exactly my point.


These assholes download illegal shit for free and pretend they are getting exclusinve promos while we 'real' dj's are like WTF this isnt in the store yet.


hey shitface...like i said, all the tracks i mixed are NOT EXCLUSIVE AND ARE AND HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE IN RECORD STORES. what more do i need to say to get my message across...you ignorant bastard

just coz you never heard any of the tracks on my set DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE EXCLUSIVE...just means you're a n00b like lots of people here and know nothing besides ASOT trance. and if i do at some point spin "exclusive" tracks...i don't illegally download them as mp3s but rather get them from m8s of mine that know the producers.
bon voyage, flibbirtigibbet.


Posted by Laushinameee on Dec-03-2004 08:32:

overrated

tiesto - obviously
armin - obviously
markus schulz, kind of, as the only people that rate him generally are stupid americans like TigerClaw.
above & beyond - why are they even rated? who knows.
j00f - is not sasha, is not goa, he plays wank trance
zabiela - omg he scratches, amazing, shame he can barely stick 2 records together half the time.
way out west (career = over) yet people on TA have just discovered them


Posted by wolverine16 on Dec-03-2004 08:48:

If something sounds good to me I will listen to it and probably buy a copy because I like it and want to hear it more. If I hear a really good song and then find out later it was somehow by Britney Spears, I wouldn't change my opinion that I liked it because of the politics behind it. Being the "#1 DJ in the world" is like being a Led Zepplin cover band: no matter how well you perfectly play their songs, the best review you'll get is: "yeah, they sounded like they're supposed to." Just listen to and go see who you like and if it's not as popular as something you can't understand people liking, enjoy paying a cheaper cover charge when you go to see them.


Posted by ieko on Dec-03-2004 09:45:

Over rated:
Markus Schulz - I used to like him, but he really kind of bores me.. to me his sets lack energy..

Tiesto - I personally feel he can do much better, but has really just declined in this last year more than any of the others

Paul Van Dyk - Don't get me wrong, I do like him, he's one of the guys that got me loving the music, but I think right now he's over rated, he's just too inconsistant

as far as under rated:
Perry O' Neil - He may be a progressive DJ, and that may not be your cup of tea, but I think unlike Markus, he has some energy with his music.. I think he deserves a bit more credit, especially because he hasn't been doing this for very long

anyways, that's my two cents.. cheers


Posted by GT357 on Dec-03-2004 09:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Cue 17 pages of bitching and self-delusion.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.


Posted by nwopper on Dec-03-2004 10:12:

Tiesto is overrated
Armin is overrated


Posted by Laushinameee on Dec-03-2004 10:23:

quote:
Originally posted by ieko
Perry O' Neil - He may be a progressive DJ


no, hes not.


Posted by R.j. on Dec-03-2004 11:24:

all you just stfu already.

quote:
Overated on TA:

Zabiela
Sasha
Holden
John00Flemming
Way Out West

Underated:


wtF!!!???


Posted by EverZ on Dec-03-2004 11:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Piazza
Ok seriously, even if I didn't have my issues with Markus I would still think he's over-rated. A DJ that plays the same types of tunes over and over is boring. Progressive music is much more than bleeps and beaps over a trancy bassline. Maybe with time you will understand where I'm coming from. I once thought Armin & Markus were good but than as I started to listen to more and more music, I than realized they were shit.


Agreed, but i still like Armin though it bothers me that he plays more and more "bleeps and beaps over a trancy bassline". Last year he played alot of tunes i liked, but now his selection is changing and mine too, so i'm starting to enjoy ASOT less.


Posted by Gholy Host on Dec-03-2004 14:54:

IMO

Tiesto
Armin
Gabriel & Dresden: Don't get me wrong, I still love them for their earlier productions, but recently it seems they've just been riding the wave with a bunch of nondescript stuff.


IMO Not Overrated

PVD
Markus


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