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Posted by nrjizer on Mar-14-2005 08:57:

Re: Grow Up

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Why do people tell others to "grow up?" To me, it's nothing but bad advice.

I can say pretty confidently that all of you have either been children, or still are. Sometimes, I think people forget how great it was to be a child as they grow older. As a young child, every day is an adventure, there are new places and activities to explore, new ways to test your limits, and new things to think, do, and imagine. Children don't spend their time worrying about how mature they appear, or where they're going to be in ten years, or the finer points of business etiquette, they spend their time laughing, playing, exploring, and enjoying life.

It seems to me like maturity is a contrived virtue. A virtue invented by rigid, sterile "grown-ups" who forgot how to enjoy their time on this planet years ago. They spend their time in grave concern over their responsibilities, passing meaningless judgments on those who live their lives free and unfettered by the stagnant shackles of maturity and propriety.

Many of us, myself included, are at a point in our lives where there is increasing social pressure to conform with this culture of "grown-up-ness," and if you find yourself in that position now or in the future, I hope you will give some consideration to my words. There are times where you will need to pretend to be "grown up" in order to be successful, but there are no times when you will need to be "grown up." It will take a little extra effort, and perhaps be slightly dishonest, but I believe it is a small sacrifice for the ability to retain the virtue of immaturity. It would be a waste of your life to heed the words of those who would tell you to "grow up."

I advise you: do not grow up. Instead, enjoy life fully.

I completely agree. It's funny how as we age, little stupid things are suddenly uncool and immature. My friend was arguing with his gf the other day, about how it was stupid and pointless to stay the night at someone elses house when you live right down the road... I honestly can't fathom how people can make a big deal over things like that.

Like a lot of people, as a younger teenager, I suddenly got stuck into this phase where I was always trying to look good, act cool, etc. As I grew older, and wiser, I realized that forcing yourself to try and act mature is actually immature. I realized it was far more important to be myself and make no apologies for it than to try and be cool and impress everyone. Life is short, there's no reason to apologize for being yourself.

Posted by nrjizer on Mar-14-2005 09:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
i think telling someone they need to grow up because they constantly drink and drive or they still get in bar fights every other weekend at the age of 30 (and they are married with kids) is pretty much justified. that kind of immturity really annoys me.

Well, that's just raw immaturity though. But the mature person will not only realize that doing that kind of shit is stupid, they will realize that there's no reason not to goof around and play video games and shit like that, no matter what their age. They will realize that it's not important to try and look badass cool, and to just be themselves.

Posted by AudioGuru on Mar-14-2005 09:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
i think telling someone they need to grow up because they constantly drink and drive or they still get in bar fights every other weekend at the age of 30 (and they are married with kids) is pretty much justified. that kind of immturity really annoys me.

but having a carefree attitude and having fun in life certainly doesn't qualify as being "immature". everyone is different though and everyone has different standards. you really can't judge...well you CAN, but it won't really make a difference.

Maturity, and responsibility are two different things.

Posted by taltul on Mar-14-2005 11:57:

Re: Grow Up

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Why do people tell others to "grow up?" To me, it's nothing but bad advice.

I can say pretty confidently that all of you have either been children, or still are. Sometimes, I think people forget how great it was to be a child as they grow older. As a young child, every day is an adventure, there are new places and activities to explore, new ways to test your limits, and new things to think, do, and imagine. Children don't spend their time worrying about how mature they appear, or where they're going to be in ten years, or the finer points of business etiquette, they spend their time laughing, playing, exploring, and enjoying life.

It seems to me like maturity is a contrived virtue. A virtue invented by rigid, sterile "grown-ups" who forgot how to enjoy their time on this planet years ago. They spend their time in grave concern over their responsibilities, passing meaningless judgments on those who live their lives free and unfettered by the stagnant shackles of maturity and propriety.

Many of us, myself included, are at a point in our lives where there is increasing social pressure to conform with this culture of "grown-up-ness," and if you find yourself in that position now or in the future, I hope you will give some consideration to my words. There are times where you will need to pretend to be "grown up" in order to be successful, but there are no times when you will need to be "grown up." It will take a little extra effort, and perhaps be slightly dishonest, but I believe it is a small sacrifice for the ability to retain the virtue of immaturity. It would be a waste of your life to heed the words of those who would tell you to "grow up."

I advise you: do not grow up. Instead, enjoy life fully.

+1

i hate ppl tellin me this shit...

i m 20.5 but i still as sentimental and kind as a child... im not naive [i hate naivete!] im just a child who wants to enjoy his life till hes young [ i mean actually i dislike all that stupid children who r about 15 and they think they know everthing and can conquer the world but i like to be the child in my soul while im already 20 years old...

i just dont understand those ppl who say to u "grow up!!! and look at u like u r some fukin asshole"

i mean whats wrong with them??? why its so "unsocial" to have fun in all ages like u had when u were young... i mean why ppl if tey r over 18 must think in some different way???

ones of that annoyin ppl who says to me "grow up already!" is my dad... thats why we dont get along for all of my life he always wants me to be "a man, grown-up man" "stop laugin and smilin evertime" [wtf - im not guilty i like my life and i enjoy it in most optimistic way!!!]... he says "u act like a child while u have to marry some chick soon [lol these words killin me - i learned not to pay attention to them coz its like a routine for ma]...

anyway i will never grow up i know it for sure and i dont think i must be ashame of myself coz of this fact... why its "fodbidden" to be sentimental, emotional and optimistic...ill always be a young person in my soul cos ITS FUKIN HUGE TO FEEL THAT WAY!!! i never hide it... its me in all my youth...

PS: another thing - ppl always connect the "grow up1!" with "come down from the sky - stop dreamin - be realistic" and stuff like that... this is also one of the points i never understood - i mean whats wrong with the society???
or its a new trend to be a grown-up snob???

explain me if i dont get it right???

Posted by muckluck on Mar-14-2005 12:15:

You're a Toys R Us kid?

Posted by Rodrico on Mar-14-2005 12:19:

Michael Jackson never wanted to "grow up", and it looks like he turned out fine.

Posted by Lira on Mar-14-2005 14:34:

Re: Grow Up

I don't fully disagree with you, Arbiter, as what you mentioned is important, but I'd rather say the focus is a bit far from the original meaning.

Why do people tell others to "grow up?".

Maturity is not to be confused with bitterness or "lack of childhood spirit". Indeed, an extremely serious adult (or child) is somone who probably doesn't really enjoy life, but rather takes it too seriously to notice what the good things are, and sooner or later develops a case of depression (the Capricorn stereotype). This would be an excellent way of hiding from one's emotions, a way of not ever getting hurt.

Unfortunately though, "labelling" is a quite popular social behaviour. When we see an "apple", we give it a name (apple), and we attribute characteristics ("round, red or green, sweet or sour"). Whenever we see a similar apple, our thinking was set in a way to believe that this apple will be the same way the other apple was. Naturally, it is not, as you never eat the same apple twice. This happens to people as well. That's where stereotypes come from and, unfortunately, they're far from being eliminated. That's why some people feel more confortable having a lawyer who wears a suit defend your case than someone who wears like a candy kid, even though the latter may be more responsible.

Therefore, "growing up" means to level yourself to the person's perspective of what's necessary. Regardless of how childish you could be in other cases.

Posted by taltul on Mar-14-2005 15:28:

quote:
Originally posted by muckluck
You're a Toys R Us kid?

what do u mean???

i f i play with the tiys or what??? of coz i dont... lol

i was just talkin about fact that most of the adults r so borin and pessimistic that they start depress me... ill never understand them - no matter in what age...

Posted by Boomer187 on Mar-14-2005 15:30:

zee n00b bumped teh old thread.

Posted by Ibizadreamer AG on Mar-14-2005 16:01:

I like mature women.

Posted by placebo on Mar-14-2005 17:00:

Heh..good point. However, people need to understand there is a time and place for maturity and a time and place for immaturity, e.g: c0r.

Posted by pyro264jb on Mar-14-2005 18:22:

Its just somthing that can not be forced. If you force it than you will never really feel it.

Posted by ProgressivePete on Mar-14-2005 22:32:

Re: Grow Up

Posted by smokeape on Mar-14-2005 22:52:

Re: Grow Up

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Why do people tell others to "grow up?" To me, it's nothing but bad advice.

Pics or STFU!!

[[[smoke]]]

Ilay and Beat C - I Saw (Yahel Mix)

Posted by Psy-T on Mar-15-2005 15:16:

Re: Re: Grow Up

quote:
Originally posted by smokeape
Pics or STFU!!

[[[smoke]]]

Ilay and Beat C - I Saw (Yahel Mix)

Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Mar-15-2005 15:22:

Re: Re: Re: Grow Up

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T

Posted by Streakfury on Mar-15-2005 15:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
As a young child, every day is an adventure, there are new places and activities to explore, new ways to test your limits, and new things to think, do, and imagine. Children don't spend their time worrying about how mature they appear, or where they're going to be in ten years, or the finer points of business etiquette, they spend their time laughing, playing, exploring, and enjoying life.

Some good points in your post, but I dont think that becoming more 'mature' means that you stop enjoying yourself, or knowing how to laugh and have fun. Being mature just means that you know when to have fun, and when to be serious and deal with things responsibly.

Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Mar-15-2005 15:52:

exactly.. and who says its not fun to be mature?

you can definatley coordinate your fun better with a mature attitude instead of just pure randomness (which can be fun), but at times too overly chaotic