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Posted by DiaMoNDStuD on Jan-05-2005 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Not when youre in the boondocks.


And what Diamond says is what Im doing right now... I suggested her go to Bklyn Coll. and get her feet wet first, and than if she wants she can transfer to a better school. But she is worried about the credits not being transferable... and Im pretty sure that credits from Brooklyn College or any of the 4 year CUNY's is transferable (for the most part) to any school in NY.


This is funny cuz when she checks this thread out and sees 5 pages now and prob 6 when she logs on she is gonna think we are all nutz.. hahaha..

Yes.. get ur feet wet first and then well take it from there..


Posted by verndogs on Jan-05-2005 20:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Not when youre in the boondocks.



I disagree with that idea for the most part.

Many college that are outside of major metropolitan areas are at the very least within college towns. And since there are businesses within these towns, many of these town employees, plus the faculty and staff of these colleges live in the area. Therefore, off campus housing should definitely not be a problem for the majority of these colleges.

However, being bored to death in these college towns....now that is a different story


Posted by phoenixBEBE on Jan-05-2005 20:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DiaMoNDStuD
This is funny cuz when she checks this thread out and sees 5 pages now and prob 6 when she logs on she is gonna think we are all nutz.. hahaha..

Yes.. get ur feet wet first and then well take it from there..


u should really ask because some of my friends ran into problems where credits from some 2 and 4 yr CUNYs were NOT transferable and thats because some CUNYs make u take basic classes which would not be offered at a regular 4 yr institution. but within the four largest 4 yr CUNY institutions, mebbe.


Posted by phoenixBEBE on Jan-05-2005 20:46:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
I disagree with that idea for the most part.

Many college that are outside of major metropolitan areas are at the very least within college towns. And since there are businesses within these towns, many of these town employees, plus the faculty and staff of these colleges live in the area. Therefore, off campus housing should definitely not be a problem for the majority of these colleges.

However, being bored to death in these college towns....now that is a different story


actually housing in the boondocks esp around college towns is madd easy to come by, cuz u'll have families eager to help out as well as cash in on all the commuter students, u will always see rooms and/or houses for rent and whatnot...like around SUNY Albany it was full of students livign around campus...

but yeah a life on the other hand is a different story lol


Posted by verndogs on Jan-05-2005 20:51:

quote:
Originally posted by bubbleravegirl
actually housing in the boondocks esp around college towns is madd easy to come by, cuz u'll have families eager to help out as well as cash in on all the commuter students, u will always see rooms and/or houses for rent and whatnot...like around SUNY Albany it was full of students livign around campus...

but yeah a life on the other hand is a different story lol


it's also generally cheaper than campus housing too


Posted by Vlad on Jan-05-2005 20:52:

quote:
Originally posted by verndogs
it's also generally cheaper than campus housing too


Thats why she doesnt want to live on campus.


Posted by Konijn on Jan-05-2005 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by bubbleravegirl
u should really ask because some of my friends ran into problems where credits from some 2 and 4 yr CUNYs were NOT transferable and thats because some CUNYs make u take basic classes which would not be offered at a regular 4 yr institution. but within the four largest 4 yr CUNY institutions, mebbe.


nyu took 90% of my baruch credits when i was accepted as a transfer during my sophomore year (they also gave me a pittance in financial aid which is one of the reasons i stuck with cuny...)


Posted by Vlad on Jan-05-2005 20:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Konijn
nyu took 90% of my baruch credits when i was accepted as a transfer during my sophomore year (they also gave me a pittance in financial aid which is one of the reasons i stuck with cuny...)


NYU is known to be crappy with financial aid.


Posted by verndogs on Jan-05-2005 21:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
NYU is known to be crappy with financial aid.


Yeah, they were really damn stingy with financial aid. That plus the fact that I grew up next to NYU's campus, along with my grammar school and my HS being near NYU were the reasons why I didn't want to go there


Posted by klingklang77 on Jan-05-2005 21:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Bliss
Binghamton, Stony Brook, etc. <--- are middle of nowhere


they are in the middle of nowhere, but stony brook isnt that bad. i just graduated from stony brook, but the school really annoyed me, but the programmes are good. the dorming situation can really suck there, so i have heard, and finding off campus accomadation shouldnt be that hard. i always saw tons of ads for people renting rooms.

if you are looking to be close to the city, then these 2 schools are not the best choice. stonybrook is closer w/ a 2 hour train ride.

good luck!


Posted by verndogs on Jan-05-2005 21:17:

If you don't mind being 2 hours away and want to be in a metropolitan area, you should also consider Philly schools. You'll be in a city, and NYC is only 1 two hour chinatown bus ride away


Posted by verndogs on Jan-05-2005 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Konijn
since the OP is an out of state resident, attending a SUNY/CUNY will cost her approximately the same amount as a second and third-tier private university like fordham, st johns, pace, hoftra etc.

to the OP:
if you have outstanding grades and loads of money to spend look at Columbia and Barnard -- and NYU which is a notch or two below them.

all other schools in the area are substantially less prestigious but depending on what your needs are can offer some good values.

In Manhattan:
Pace University has solid computer science and business programs while everything else skews average but you get to live in lower manhattan (city hall area).

-- Fordham has a campus in Manhattan but most classes and activites take place in its pristine Bronx Campus. A step up from its peers st johns and pace.

--CUNYs will cost you less in tuition but you will most likely have to secure your own housing and the academics can sometimes be iffy.
CUNY-Baruch has pretty good business program and is the largest business school in the country but is lacking in almost every other sector (located in Gramercy Park area - 23rd St)
CUNY-Hunter is pretty good overall with a solid program in social work/social services and is the only CUNY with dorms (located in Upper East Side 68th St)
CUNY-City College has a good engineering program but is average in everything else (located at 137th St Harlem)

In Queens:
CUNYs in Queens are garbage with the exception of Queens College.
-- You also have so-so St. Johns -- about a 30-40 min train ride into manhattan and they built new dorms a few years ago:

In Brooklyn:
CUNY-Brooklyn College average in all respects but has the nicest cuny campus. has a pre-med program that is tough to get into.

Long Island:
--Hofstra -- mediocre private school; much drinking
--Adelphi -- more mediocrity;
--Dowling -- more mediocrity and you can actually see your money being flushed down the toilet
--SUNY Stonybrook -- good value for your money; academics can be above average if you seek them out and work hard but also easy to fall into the party trap; 420 friendly


don't forget about Manhattan college too (it's actually in the bronx, lol)


Posted by phuzzyfish12 on Jan-05-2005 21:29:

Okay okay okay....done it all so I'll try and help. I attended a Community College for my first year in NJ, took 36 credits, 27 transfered to East Carolina Univsity (making me an out of student at a state school) this still kept me at freshman status, since I needed 32 credits per year, but it wasn't that big of a deal. I lived 2 years on campus, and then 2 years off. If you live in a "college town" housing is all over the place and cheap also. So if your looking for housing live as close to campus as possible, if it is a school with no on-campus housing then there should be tons of housing around to accomidate all the students. I paid out of state tuition all four years in NC. If she wants to pay in-state for NY you have to be a resident here for a year, including living here and working here. Now in NC you could get back your money for out of state if you could prove that you had lived and worked in the state for over a year. So I could have gotten money back if I had lived AND worked in the state but I never worked in the state. Also for the private schools, they have more options to give money out for, it is not based on grades so much as income, major, etc. Also (I am out of control)she could go to a Community College for a year to keep cost down, you'll only be taking general classes so those should all transfer and then she can build up a GPA, get finacial aid, and figure out what she wants to do. Never let the cost of college stop you, just do it. Hope this way to long post helps


Posted by Vlad on Jan-05-2005 21:36:

Merd thats exactly what I tried explaining to her to do. She could go to Bklyn, which is a very good school, its the cheapest good school in NY, take all the core classes (English, Math, Social Sciences, Electives) than move on to something bigger and better.


Posted by DJ_Lord on Jan-05-2005 21:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Stassi
who are we helping here? you get laid or her go to school???


INDEED.


Posted by verndogs on Jan-05-2005 21:47:

quote:
Originally posted by phuzzyfish12
Never let the cost of college stop you, just do it.


+1


Posted by DJ_Lord on Jan-05-2005 21:57:

Vlad I've never seen you want someone to go to Brooklyn so bad..


Posted by Miss Bliss on Jan-05-2005 22:05:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
Vlad I've never seen you want someone to go to Brooklyn so bad..


It really makes sense though, and Brooklyn is a good choice it seems to me. Sometimes I wish I'd gone cheap for 2 yrs too instead of going to NYU right away. But I love NYU anyway! Columbia sux!


Posted by verndogs on Jan-05-2005 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Bliss
It really makes sense though, and Brooklyn is a good choice it seems to me. Sometimes I wish I'd gone cheap for 2 yrs too instead of going to NYU right away. But I love NYU anyway! Columbia sux!


I hate the fact that NYU took over my neighborhood


Posted by phuzzyfish12 on Jan-05-2005 22:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Merd thats exactly what I tried explaining to her to do. She could go to Bklyn, which is a very good school, its the cheapest good school in NY, take all the core classes (English, Math, Social Sciences, Electives) than move on to something bigger and better.




Great minds think alike


Posted by amit on Jan-06-2005 02:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Bliss
It really makes sense though, and Brooklyn is a good choice it seems to me. Sometimes I wish I'd gone cheap for 2 yrs too instead of going to NYU right away. But I love NYU anyway! Columbia sux!


Columbia owns NYU. Everybody knows that!


Posted by verndogs on Jan-06-2005 02:56:

quote:
Originally posted by amit
Columbia owns NYU. Everybody knows that!




On a side note about Columbia, glad to see their new athletic director actually cares about winning


Posted by trancintaiwan on Jan-06-2005 06:18:

quote:
Originally posted by amit
Columbia owns NYU. Everybody knows that!


maybe for academics, but u guys are just damn jealous of our location.

but anyways, NYU isn't that bad for financial aid. in fact, nearly all of my friends receive some sort of financial aid from them. if its worth it to u later, doesn't matter too much about the cost of the school. u can always pay back loans later... if they can accept a dumbass like, me then anyone's got a chance

also, i'm surprised no one has mentioned Rutgers at all. true its in new jersey, but its a 40 minute train ride away and its a pretty damn good state school. or if u go to rutgers newark thats even closer (personally i wouldn't go to ru newark... hehe)

another thing, not trying to sound negative or anything, but don't u think its kinda late to be applying to the colleges u want to get into? if u were seriously trying to get into a college. wouldn't u have already applied early, or sent out your applications by now? when i was applying to schools, i didn't even apply early anywhere but my apps. were done by mid. november. all i'm saying is, better get urs done quick!!


Posted by trunks1022 on Jan-06-2005 06:23:

hahaha... i would've been screwed if penn didn't accept me early. i hadn't touched my other apps as of mid december 1998


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