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Originally posted by fr0st dont forget the windows operating system was heavly influenced by the mac OS. Notice the start menu and the apple share some similarities. I dont think either company could be where its at without the other..

Are you an idiot? Windows is just a cheap SHIT ripoff of Mac OS, fuck, do your fucking research and then post facts. The only reason why windows is where its at is cuz apple made a deal with M$ so that they could use some features of Mac OS in trade for every mac coming with internet exploDer.

That being said:

Im gonna agree with CynepMeH about consumer puppets. IPODS ARE FOR TRENDWHORES who dont know a good product even if it slapped them in the face *cough*sonyHD3orriokarmaoririver*cough*

Im an apple user, and i love my mac, but this apple pwns all shit is JUST FUCKING LAME.

Give me a fucking BREAK!

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Originally posted by kamil Are you an idiot? Windows is just a cheap SHIT ripoff of Mac OS, fuck, do your fucking research and then post facts. The only reason why windows is where its at is cuz apple made a deal with M$ so that they could use some features of Mac OS in trade for every mac coming with internet exploDer. That being said: Im gonna agree with CynepMeH about consumer puppets. IPODS ARE FOR TRENDWHORES who dont know a good product even if it slapped them in the face *cough*sonyHD3orriokarmaoririver*cough* Im an apple user, and i love my mac, but this apple pwns all shit is JUST FUCKING LAME. Give me a fucking BREAK!

For one thing i was trying to make a quick mac windows correlation, that even a person with the most minimal mac experience would reconize. And without microsofts brilliant marketing the windowed operating system would have taking a much longer time to grab the vast majority of consumers of the time. Do not attack me with hostility and make your self look like a idiot...

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Originally posted by kamil Are you an idiot? Windows is just a cheap SHIT ripoff of Mac OS, fuck, do your fucking research and then post facts. The only reason why windows is where its at is cuz apple made a deal with M$ so that they could use some features of Mac OS in trade for every mac coming with internet exploDer. That being said: Im gonna agree with CynepMeH about consumer puppets. IPODS ARE FOR TRENDWHORES who dont know a good product even if it slapped them in the face *cough*sonyHD3orriokarmaoririver*cough* Im an apple user, and i love my mac, but this apple pwns all shit is JUST FUCKING LAME. Give me a fucking BREAK!

Eh??? Hey, dufus, do your research - the GUI/Mouse concept was developed by... drum roll please.... XEROX! Stealing from a thief, now that's a laugh!

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Originally posted by getfoul Bill gates wouldnt exist if it werent for apple,

Please enlighten me - how???

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Originally posted by getfoul and he only put 150 mil in non voting shares of stock.

I stand corrected - 'tis is true.

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Originally posted by CynepMeH I stand corrected - 'tis is true.

you'll stand corrected once more:

you meant to say 'tis true.

Everyone's getting so hostile about computers... Relax guys I'm sure all your internet dicks are very large.

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Originally posted by CynepMeH Please enlighten me - how??? I stand corrected - 'tis is true.

Bill gates was a genius when it came to getting his business working, but he did work for apple for a short period of time. From this he got most of his ideas for windows, at least how to impliment them. If i remember my history correct.

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Originally posted by getfoul Bill gates was a genius when it came to getting his business working, but he did work for apple for a short period of time. From this he got most of his ideas for windows, at least how to impliment them. If i remember my history correct.

http://www.apple-history.com/frames...llery&model=gui

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Graphical User Interface (GUI) The GUI had its roots in the 1950s but was not developed until the 1970s when a group at the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center (PARC) developed the Alto, a GUI-based computer. The Alto was the size of a large desk, and Xerox believed it unmarketable. Jobs took a tour of PARC in 1979, and saw the future of personal computing in the Alto. Although much of the Interface of both the Lisa and the Mac was based (at least intellectually) heavily on the work done at PARC, and many of the engineers there later left to join Apple, much of the Mac OS was written before Job's visit to PARC. When Jobs accused Bill Gates of Microsoft of stealing the GUI from Apple and using it in Windows 1.0, Gates fired back: No, Steve, I think its more like we both have a rich neighbor named Xerox, and you broke in to steal the TV set, and you found out I'd been there first, and you said. "Hey that's no fair! I wanted to steal the TV set! The fact that both Apple and Microsoft had gotten the idea of the GUI from Xerox put a major dent in Apple's lawsuit against Microsoft over the GUI several years later. Although much of The Mac OS is original, it was similar enough to the old Alto GUI to make a "look and feel" suit against Microsoft dubious.

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Originally posted by kamil Im gonna agree with CynepMeH about consumer puppets. IPODS ARE FOR TRENDWHORES who dont know a good product even if it slapped them in the face *cough*sonyHD3orriokarmaoririver*cough*

Hah! The fact that you put that in your arguement loses all credibility. Sony makes the worst fucking mp3 players on the market, they are all shit. Iriver is genius, and Rio isnt half bad, but god why the fuck did you mention sony?

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Originally posted by Siang Hah! The fact that you put that in your arguement loses all credibility. Sony makes the worst fucking mp3 players on the market, they are all shit. Iriver is genius, and Rio isnt half bad, but god why the fuck did you mention sony?

Sony has shit products? Okay, well then look at this:

CLICK HERE YOU, SHEEP

Its WAY smaller than the iPod, and if I had the money, this would be the HD-MP3 to get....only problem is, Sonys marketing sucks, so noone knows about it. But thats also good, because if i ever go back to HD-mp3, i wont be a trendwhore loser.

30 HOURS OF PLAYBACK

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Originally posted by kamil Sony has shit products? Okay, well then look at this: CLICK HERE YOU, SHEEP Its WAY smaller than the iPod, and if I had the money, this would be the HD-MP3 to get....only problem is, Sonys marketing sucks, so noone knows about it. But thats also good, because if i ever go back to HD-mp3, i wont be a trendwhore loser. 30 HOURS OF PLAYBACK

Wow, I have never seen that one!(thats sarcasm btw)

Their marketing is fine, their products suck, thusly they go NO WHERE. It could have 100 hours of playback and be the size of a quarter, and id give a fuck less. Sony hasnt grasped the idea of making a good DAP yet, like it or not. Though they sure are trying hard.

Get off your fucking highhorse also, your too insecure with yourself to use a goddamn ipod, its sad. RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE GUY!

I will agree that they are overpriced, and could use more features. But many many music enthusiasts swear by their ipod, even after trying other mp3 players. The click wheel is really nice, the interface is nice, the file system is nice, and its all very cleanly done. I personally dont use an Ipod, or a mac for that reason, but Im not ignorant like some of you guys who just dismiss it because its Apple branded, or because a lot of people use it as a status symbol. Archos is my weapon of choice, because of the drag and drop and the search by filename file browsing, something the ipod doesnt use.

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Originally posted by Siang Wow, I have never seen that one!(thats sarcasm btw) Their marketing is fine, their products suck, thusly they go NO WHERE. It could have 100 hours of playback and be the size of a quarter, and id give a fuck less. Sony hasnt grasped the idea of making a good DAP yet, like it or not. Though they sure are trying hard. Get off your fucking highhorse also, your too insecure with yourself to use a goddamn ipod, its sad.

I HAVE AN IPOD AND ITS BATTERY AND EQ IS SHIT.

And you dont make a very good arguement as to why Sony portables suck. My Sony Minidissc may not have great capacity, but it will TROUNCE anything in every other feature (sound, recording, downloading, live recording, battery life = 100+ hours, etc etc)

Do your research, and stop being a fucking SHEEP. You just cant admit your ass got pwned along with your pathetic comments with a Sony product.

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Originally posted by kamil And you dont make a very good arguement as to why Sony portables suck. My Sony Minidissc may not have great capacity, but it will TROUNCE anything in every other feature (sound, recording, downloading, live recording, battery life = 100+ hours, etc etc)

Uh, the Software SUCKS. I returned my minidisc because i couldn't get the stupid software to work correctly. NOTHING would work, the stupid program would keep crashing etc.

^that i will agree with, but there are alternatives.

but, you dont need to convert to atrac before you send it to the HD3, its got complete MP3 support, so that other guys complaint is completely invalid. That being said, iPods also use software in order to transfer music onto it. I dont know how it runs on PC, but iTunes however does a great job on Mac. (y)

I said sony DAP's, pay fucking attention please. Minidisc isnt in that catergory, so take your ball and go home.

sheep, hahahahahaha, did you seriously just fucking say that thinking it was smoething witty and cool?

get
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thanks

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Originally posted by Siang get out of the thread

Ladies and gentlemen, THIS, is witty and cool.

Wasnt supposed to be witty, I just wanted you to stop fagging up the thread. :-( I see I failed at that.

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Originally posted by Siang I said sony DAP's, pay fucking attention please.

Not up for a comparison i see.......tool.

Id love to see you on the street tho, with ure stock apple headphones. Id point and laugh at you. Sheep.

Your ability to read the thread amazes me. Did you miss the part where I dont have an ipod? lol, keep it up man, I really dont mind you making a complete ass of yourself

I said "I would love to"

God, your from texas, right? Voted for bush?

"I would love to" implys something thats possible, which you seeing me with stock headphones, let alone apple ones, isnt.

And my location is right under my username, check again.

*golf clap*

kamil, stick to arguments that are not emotion filled and have facts to back it up. You look like a fool. CynepMeH presented what he had to say and appears smarter because of it.

With sony's hd player you have to convert EVERY song to their playback format which is what really kills it. A lot of people dont want to go through the hassle of that. It could have all the playback in the world, but it is not smooth using. The thing looks great but it's usability is horrible and that's what matters.

The iPod, take it or leave it, is the most user friendly and straight forward player on the market. 400+ accessories on the market for it as well, so to say the features are not there is wrong also. Sure it doesnt come with a recorder or FM tuner or all the other gadgetry but that doesnt mean it is not there for it.

It all comes down to personal preference. If you don't like the iPod, ok, but don't go on a holy rampage against Apple and it's products because you think it is trendy. I've seen this from you on other sites too so... calm down, take a breath and just accept that some people are happy with their product. You can make assumptions, but don't over generalize.


my $.02 and I'm done with this. And thank you to CynepMeH for backing up what you say.

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Originally posted by getfoul kamil, stick to arguments that are not emotion filled and have facts to back it up. You look like a fool. CynepMeH presented what he had to say and appears smarter because of it. With sony's hd player you have to convert EVERY song to their playback format which is what really kills it. A lot of people dont want to go through the hassle of that. It could have all the playback in the world, but it is not smooth using. The thing looks great but it's usability is horrible and that's what matters. The iPod, take it or leave it, is the most user friendly and straight forward player on the market. 400+ accessories on the market for it as well, so to say the features are not there is wrong also. Sure it doesnt come with a recorder or FM tuner or all the other gadgetry but that doesnt mean it is not there for it. It all comes down to personal preference. If you don't like the iPod, ok, but don't go on a holy rampage against Apple and it's products because you think it is trendy. I've seen this from you on other sites too so... calm down, take a breath and just accept that some people are happy with their product. You can make assumptions, but don't over generalize. my $.02 and I'm done with this. And thank you to CynepMeH for backing up what you say.

I CLEARLY STATED YOU DO NOT NEED TO CONVERT TO ATRAC WITH THE NEW SONY HD3!!!!

And you want facts? Here are some more that i wrote on e-pinions cuz apple praising shit has got to stop:

My Review:

Battery now lasts 15 minutes. I payed 450 dollars to buy it, and 100 dollars for an additional year of warranty to cover the replacement of the battery. Fair? No. If I were to replace it myself, I'd lose my warranty, so technically, i have to buy the warranty. What a brilliant scam to have the battery die after 18 months.

Apple = THIEVES.

The biggest flaw with the iPod is this:
Anytime you connect it to your computer via firewire, or powersource, it charges. My response: NO! I want to control the charge, and I want to control when to charge! This means that even if the iPod is 90% charged, it still charges! Why?!?! Are Apple engineers lazy or just stupid? Sony Minidiscs charge when the unit is connected to a power source only when you press the "stop" button! Clever, because this saves a lot of battery life in the long run. I take graphic design at school, and I connect my iPod to a mac everyday, and for it to recharge everytime is unnacceptable.

Another flaw is thats its always in standby mode. Even when you press "sleep" its in standby. This means, after a few days or a week (depending how your battery is doing) it will die and need to be recharged even though it hasnt been used at all.

If your given 10Gb or more of space to use on a portable device, should you technically be able to listen to at least 5% of what youve got? I never went through that many songs before the battery died, and trust me, it dies everyday on me.
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Ive had numerous complications with mine:

-Battery problems galore
-unit disconnects for no reason when its plugged in via firewire
-it tells me my battery is low when ive just recharged it!
-it switched back to an older version of firmwire on its own, somehow???
-crashes sometimes

General faults and weak-points:

-using a preset equalizer setting drains the battery more so
-non-removable battery. why cant apple just not follow everyone else's trend and allow users to use an external li-ion battery? The fact is,
-Impedance: 32 ohms = useless. most people, if not, 80% of eveyrone will use low grade, nonstudio headphones. a lower impedence will also significantly increase the battery life. Unless you have 200 dollar sony DJ headphones or something comparable, then you dont need this.
-headphones suck, they fall out of my ears.
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Oh yeah, iTunes has customized EQ settings, why cant ipod have them? Or at least the ability to import a custom EQ from iTunes?

Okay, so now the good stuff:

Well, the scroll wheel. Apple has done a really good job of making navigation extremely fast. Scrolling through allbums and artists is a breeze, since the user defines the speed of which his/her fingers slides around the touch-wheel.

True scrolling within a song is my favourite feature, and this alone is worth 100 dollars. Im into trance music, so a lot of my music is a live recording, uncut, 60+ minutes. Going from the first minute to the 50th minute is immediate. This is simply brilliant.

Extra features are nice, like alarm clock, becuase i actually do use it to wake me up.

Instant play from track to track, theres no 2 second pause when selecting a track to play, the unit is able to pickup a track very quickly. This is also a drain on the battery, if apple slowed down the speed of it, it would gain some life!

Illuminated display is nice, but not a necessity. But works very well.

Contrast settings are very good. Going outside or indoors allows you to set it up easily.

Great sound, great volume. Lots of extra's in the unit, but not a functional portable device. It just wont last.

Look elsewhere.

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Update:

Okay, so after a little over a year, my struggle with this worthless peice of junk have come to an end.
After having the ipod connected to my mac via firewire, i let it charge overnight. The next day i go out for work (30 minute walk) and i try and get the damnn thing to work. What do i get? A caution picture. I reset it, nothing. I gave up. After work i try once more, and still no luck.

The next day i called apple and they said i should be getting it replaced with a new unit, and all of my data from it will not be recovered. I spent 450 dollars, and an extra 100 dollars on warranty, so i could lose 2 months worth of school projects for graphic design?!!?!?

UNACCEPTABLE!!!!

The dispatch for my ipod was supposed to come in on a monday, it came in 4 days later, GEE THANKS APPLE FOR MAKING ME WAIT LONGER WHEN I NEED IT FIXED ASAP, MORONS.

So, now Im playing the waiting game, if i get a new unit (which i damn well deserve one after all the redundant trouble ive had to endure with this expensive crap) im selling it IMMEDIATELY.

It still has warranty until August 2005.

*Second Edit:

I just got my iPod back from service on January 11th, after sending it in on October 25th.








Ive posted these FACTS before getfoul, looks like some people looooove to troll.

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