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Posted by Ian on Jan-13-2005 17:57:

1. Circulation- Turquoise (Different Gear remix) (Hooj)
2. Saeed & Palash- Losing Control (Anodyne)
3. Accadia- Into the dawn (James Holden remix) (Lost Language)
4. Art of Trance- Kilimanjaro (Silvio Ecomo remix) (Platipus)
5. DJ Cyber- Marco Antonio (Cyber promo)
6. Unknown- Ibeatza (promo)
7. Graham Fee- System Overload (Remedy remix)
8. DJ Moss- Bogota Experiences
9. Fire & Ice- Souvenir de Chine (Bonzai promo)

1. Drax & Scott Mac- Sublime (Darkstar remix) (Spot on)
2. Orion- See me Here (Incentive)
3. Praha presents Kian- Pachinko Part two (Platipus)
4. Rising Star - Clear Blue Moon (Acetate)
5. Ralphie B.- Massive (Blackhole promo)
6. Members of Mayday (Paul van Dijk mix) (Promo)
7. Rank1- Such is Life (Free for All-promo)
8. S.O.L.I.S.- Dolphins (Classified Project remix) (Alien Promo)
9. Armin- Blue Fear (Cyber Records)

Compare these 2 Episodes from the first 6 months of the show to the tripe he's putting out today and then you'll see that we're not elitists, we just have standards which used to be met but now are not due to mainly him plugging everything from his label and playing amateur shit each week which is not in anyway comparable to 2-3 years ago in quality, variation nor originality. If having standards makes us elitists then sue me


Posted by Az on Jan-13-2005 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
thats because they know you well enough know that if they dont like the same music as you you will spaz out and murder something.


my new aim in life is to get you to start producing something good


Posted by Ian on Jan-13-2005 18:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
thats because they know you well enough know that if they dont like the same music as you you will spaz out and murder something.



it makes me laugh mike how you complain about the standard of some posts in this forum, then go even lower yourself. Pot, Kettle, black ?


Posted by Ian on Jan-13-2005 18:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Az

my new aim in life is to get you to start producing something good


Good luck on that one


Posted by Ory on Jan-13-2005 18:03:

I caught your post before you deleted it, Mr. Foyle. Just one thing I have to say; unfeeling, pretentious, hands-in-the-air dutch anthem trance, or music with soul?


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jan-13-2005 18:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
it makes me laugh mike how you complain about the standard of some posts in this forum, then go even lower yourself. Pot, Kettle, black ?


will you stop using my fucking name like that


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jan-13-2005 18:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
I caught your post before you deleted it, Mr. Foyle. Just one thing I have to say; unfeeling, pretentious, hands-in-the-air dutch anthem trance, or music with soul?


but the thing is, to alot of people, hands in the air, full on trance has soul! it affects people like your music affects you! do you not get that?!


Posted by Ian on Jan-13-2005 18:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
will you stop using my fucking name like that


would you prefer 'your majesty' ?


Posted by m0sh on Jan-13-2005 18:06:

Some of you just care too much...

Just listen to the music...`


Posted by Ory on Jan-13-2005 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
but the thing is, to alot of people, hands in the air, full on trance has soul! it affects people like your music affects you! do you not get that?!


A melody does not equal feeling. Especially when no effort is put into the production.


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jan-13-2005 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
would you prefer 'your majesty' ?


it just annoys me the way you use it in the same way that i would to tell off my kid!


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jan-13-2005 18:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
A melody does not equal feeling. Especially when no effort is put into the production.


ok true, but if you have a good melody where effort has been put into the production, then you got feeling, people feel it and are affected by it, the music you listen to isnt the only music that has had effort put into it.


Posted by Ian on Jan-13-2005 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
it just annoys me the way you use it in the same way that i would to tell off my kid!


Please pass my severe condolances onto the aforementioned kid and any lady who's had your seeds





and back onto the point, I'd rather address people personally than 'oi wankface' or 'shitbreak' etc, if that's so wrong then dress me up in panties and call me mary


Posted by Ory on Jan-13-2005 18:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
ok true, but if you have a good melody where effort has been put into the production, then you got feeling, people feel it and are affected by it, the music you listen to isnt the only music that has had effort put into it.


Yeah, if it has a supersaw, it has to be a great production. All those saw waves... wow, must be something!


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jan-13-2005 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by m0sh
Some of you just care too much...

Just listen to the music...`


the reason i care so much, is because alot of people would consider some of my older music as "mc prog" or whatever, and say that no effort has been put into it and its made for money and that it has no feeling. But i know whats gone into it, and i havnt just made it for money, and it PISSES me right off that people think that it is, when they have absolutely nothing to base it on other than the fact that it was played on ASOT


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jan-13-2005 18:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
Yeah, if it has a supersaw, it has to be a great production. All those saw waves... wow, must be something!



who said anything about a supersaw? supersaws are popular because that particular sound is very powerful and can be used to rip melodies right through you! Not all ASOT trance is fucking supersaws


Posted by Ory on Jan-13-2005 18:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
the reason i care so much, is because alot of people would consider some of my older music as "mc prog" or whatever, and say that no effort has been put into it and its made for money and that it has no feeling. But i know whats gone into it, and i havnt just made it for money, and it PISSES me right off that people think that it is, when they have absolutely nothing to base it on other than the fact that it was played on ASOT


Don't worry, I believe you, and I respect that. But too much McProg... well, it's gotten to me.


Posted by Ory on Jan-13-2005 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
who said anything about a supersaw? supersaws are popular because that particular sound is very powerful and can be used to rip melodies right through you! Not all ASOT trance is fucking supersaws


If it's not a supersaw, it's another stereotype that makes people look down on trance.


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jan-13-2005 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
Don't worry, I believe you, and I respect that. But too much McProg... well, it's gotten to me.


ok well thats at least a start. i honestly didnt expect to hear that from you. thanks


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jan-13-2005 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
If it's not a supersaw, it's another stereotype that makes people look down on trance.


another stereotype sure maybe, but like i keep saying, originality isnt the only thing that matters, if a sound is used over and over, its because it serves its purpose well, and although you might not accept this, melodies do play a huge part in the mood of any piece of music, sure its not the only thing that counts, but if you have a good melody (which admittidly is hard to come by these days) and then something powerful like a supersaw to deliver it, then you are going to end up with a piece of music FULL of soul and feeling, which can really touch people.


Posted by Ory on Jan-13-2005 18:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
another stereotype sure maybe, but like i keep saying, originality isnt the only thing that matters, if a sound is used over and over, its because it serves its purpose well, and although you might not accept this, melodies do play a huge part in the mood of any piece of music, sure its not the only thing that counts, but if you have a good melody (which admittidly is hard to come by these days) and then something powerful like a supersaw to deliver it, then you are going to end up with a piece of music FULL of soul and feeling, which can really touch people.


I haven't heard a good trance melody for quite some time.


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jan-13-2005 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
I haven't heard a good trance melody for quite some time.


fair enough, ive heard the odd one here and there, and while they still use that classic supersaw, which yes, has been used a fuck load, no matter how many times u use it, with a new melody you have a new mood. its not all about the sounds, and not all asot trance is supersaws like i said. Take someone like Derek Howell, sure, from what ive heard, its full of feeling, can be some really soulful stuff, but i couldnt listen to it unless i was in a certain relaxed, mellowed out mood. if i wanted to go out and jump around it simply wouldnt do it for me. but different music is suited to different atmospheres and different moods, times, seasons, and DIFFERENT PEOPLE. dont you agree?


Posted by m0sh on Jan-13-2005 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
the reason i care so much, is because alot of people would consider some of my older music as "mc prog" or whatever, and say that no effort has been put into it and its made for money and that it has no feeling. But i know whats gone into it, and i havnt just made it for money, and it PISSES me right off that people think that it is, when they have absolutely nothing to base it on other than the fact that it was played on ASOT



so what ?!
fuck'em
so they write and bitch here...let them...after all it doesn't metter...
I've gotten to a level which I don't care if people like what I hear or what I spin,all that metters is my godamn opinion.


Posted by UWM on Jan-13-2005 19:26:

You guys are good entertainment.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-13-2005 19:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
Yeah, once they realise our music is more sophisticated, they'll want to switch.


Give me one reason why what you listen to is any more sophisticated than this trance/prog hybrid you hate so much.


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