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Posted by eulerfx on Jan-26-2005 21:05:

I think trance is getting better. Sure there is increasing incompetance in certain areas of mainstream trance, but when you look at acts like Way Out West, Shpongle, James Holden, you will definatly see great progress melodically and production wise.

After hearing something like WoW - Killer I can't even listen to Rank 1 - Airwave without getting bored. I guess to me the uplifting nature of Airwave doesn't seem enough and my ears seek some sort of progression to the tune, some sort of intelligent build and drive which ultimatly creates a trance.


Posted by fLipp on Jan-26-2005 21:08:

It's all about the tech-trance

I love how creative Marco V has become in his sets
e.g His Innercity set


Posted by Chris T. Dot on Jan-26-2005 22:09:

"Does anyone else think melodic trance is dying?"

Hmm, I don't think it's dying, but it definitely evolved from the mid-late 90s melodic, dreamy trance that got me hooked on it. I remember listening to Paul Oakenfold's mixes of the 1990s, geez those were spectacular. Basically a spiritual experience was what I went through hearing it. The euphoric emotions brought up from the music were like nothing I ever experienced with any other kind of songs. I think most of the trance I have heard post 2001 haven't come close in bringing that euphoria level up. But here and there I still experience it, one recent example....I was listening to Paul Van Dyk's Live at Nature One Mix that I got off TranceAddict and from the 29min mark until about the 46min mark it was simply astounding. I'm not familiar with trance song names(just download mixes) so I'm not sure what songs were playing by name. But ya, enough of this babble....just my 2 cents.


Posted by Stiems4 on Jan-26-2005 22:12:

Don't think it's dying, we just have a quiet period, that's all!


Posted by InTranzd on Jan-26-2005 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by SurrJRS
They can pry my trance filled iPod from my cold dead hands damnit!


hahahhahahhahha
ahahahhahahahhahhaha
ahahhahahahhahahahah

too many people like house! Damnit !


Posted by Cildainie on Jan-26-2005 22:30:

out with a whimper

Most trance artists will probably fade out, but some will stay- the talented ones. Hawtin, Orbital, Way Out West, Orb,... they still make good stuff. It's impossible to make a living from record sales, tho... "Dance" and electro departments in my local record stores have shrunk by about 50% this past yr., prob. due to MP3 trading... TRance artists will always be in demand to provide sci-fi soundtracks and action movie soundtracks, tho...

As for the clubscene, and the obnoxiously male-dominated, overhyped "profession" of "dj"-ing, I don't care if it dies out.


Posted by daeus on Jan-26-2005 22:48:

It has change since 98 but i still love it, its changed for the better , better quality sounding, more immersing sounds.

Theres loads of melodic new tunes coming out all the time.

LISTEN MAN !


Posted by AlphaStarred on Jan-26-2005 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by daeus
It has change since 98...


where do you come up with these speculations?!!?


Posted by alieu on Jan-26-2005 23:08:

quote:
Originally posted by daeus
It has change since 98 but i still love it, its changed for the better , better quality sounding, more immersing sounds.

Theres loads of melodic new tunes coming out all the time.

LISTEN MAN !


ok. then name some!

and i don't mean melodic prog.


Posted by Camus on Jan-27-2005 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by eulerfx After hearing something like WoW - Killer I can't even listen to Rank 1 - Airwave without getting bored. I guess to me the uplifting nature of Airwave doesn't seem enough and my ears seek some sort of progression to the tune, some sort of intelligent build and drive which ultimatly creates a trance.


I'm inclined to agree, Way out West has definitely produced some real quality stuff, but I never really thought of as trance. It's just picking nits, really, but they seem pretty breakbeat, especially on tracks like Northern Lights, but I'm not too versed in terminology anyway.


Posted by Geoff on Jan-27-2005 00:44:

bye bye trance, hello pop pop


Posted by techno_freak on Jan-27-2005 02:23:

i think it is


Posted by DickieThijssen on Jan-27-2005 02:26:

im glad that ory guy seems to have left this forum, these were always the kinda threads where he would insult everybodys taste etc.


Posted by goozi on Jan-27-2005 02:42:

Smiling Frog

Hey! i think (im talking on melodic/uplift) trance is just getting a diffrent stayle..and its not bad..

and the melodic trancers in prog have some great uplifting things!


Posted by milanster on Jan-27-2005 07:41:

stop whinning and starting gay threads like this one

if only I can be swamper for one day!


Posted by Cobalt on Jan-27-2005 07:54:

After many tries at witty response, I've decided the sarcasm would be wasted.


Posted by Cobalt on Jan-27-2005 07:59:

Oh, and as to the original post, yes.

But there are still other viable subgenres to trance. The genre as a whole is relatively healthy.


Posted by trancintaiwan on Jan-27-2005 08:22:

ah whatever... u guys are crazy.

u people always talk about the amazing songs that used to be produced with so much emotion, but u seem to forget that along with all those tracks that were amazing, were ALOT of crappy tracks that were released too. always gonna be the crappy ones and there's always gonna be the good ones. and the crappy will always outnumber the good. all i'm gonna say is, there are many tracks which still get me that "good ol' trance feeling"


Posted by varun on Jan-27-2005 08:35:

Sunquest,
I have to agree with you there buddy. Trance is dying as a whole and has taken a nosedive ever since 2000 because of the dominance of all the other mainstream genres especially hip-hop. I can guarantee you, if you ask 10 people what they listen to,8 or probably 9 out of those 10 people will probably say hip-hop/r&b amongst other genres such as rock/pop.
To add to this, trance is interpreted by the average listener as either
a) Music appreciated by spineless coke-snorting, popping junkies.
b) Fluffy euro trance ala ATB,Ian Van Dahl,Lasgo and the like.

The above two factors have been a big blow to trance and have given it a very bad name.

The awareness of trance is very low as most of the cheese tracks overshadow the good melodic/prog trance and they are the first to pop out of a n00bs mouth on hearing the word 'trance'.
Important thing is we gotta keep fighting and the producers and DJ's gotta work in conjunction to promote quality trance together.


Posted by Peter K on Jan-27-2005 10:20:

I agree with Sunquest. I'm still stuck in the 90's when it comes top trance.


Posted by Icesotope on Jan-27-2005 10:54:

quote:
Originally posted by DickieThijssen
im glad that ory guy seems to have left this forum, these were always the kinda threads where he would insult everybodys taste etc.



Don't be too happy yet...


Posted by djxtension on Jan-27-2005 11:02:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
Yes.


+1


Posted by jonny_mac_99 on Jan-27-2005 13:10:

I disagree that trance is dying. I think its just moving in different directions and therefore becoming almost a niche market rather than the general market it once was.

Trance, as it was around 2000-2002 still exists it just isn't as dominant as it once was. Artists like PUSH Above & Beyond and Armin Van Buuren still produce tracks as trancy and deep as those that were produced "back in the day".

However, the trance genre can now be split into more categories and includes melodic and euphoric trance, and (the more popular within the UK) hard trance.
This category is related to the hard house genre and is more prominant, particularly in the UK, with DJ's such as Adam sheridan and Eddie Halliwell coming to the forefront. It is also notable that PVD is playing a harder set now as evident from creamfields and Nature One etc.

Even recognised Trance DJ's such as Armin van Buuren displayed elements of Hard trance within there sets as shown by his set at Global Gathering with trackls like Katana's In Silence and Klinkenbergs Til ya drop being played beside tracks like White Room and Commmunication.

I also feel that perhaps the scene in America suffers from the lack of interest in dance music as I know it in the UK. ON a recent trip to NY i managed to see PVD playing on the rock the vote tour and also in the club SPirit for the after party and I felt the set he played could have been categorized as hard trance - which i enjoyed. However, this weekend ill be attending my monthly night at Inside Out, Glasgow where Eddie Halliwell and DJ Scot Project will be playing in the mian room (categorized as hard trance) and Matt Hardwick and Above & Beyond will also be playing in the same club. This means that both categories of trance will be availableto the clubber and everyone will be happy. Something that wasn't available in NY.

To sum up (and this post has gone on longer than i thought it would) I dont think Trance is dying, its actually getting bigger, its just being split into more categories.


Posted by tranceaddict991 on Jan-27-2005 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
I've never seen one of these threads before on tranceaddict.com!

+1 and btw its been dead for years


Posted by Kinuvan on Jan-27-2005 20:48:

it's dead. good tracks are few and far between.


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