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Posted by Swamper on Feb-02-2005 17:54:

I respect him for his music and his dancing and I've always been a fan of his ("Billie Jean" is one of my fave tracks ever).

However, while I feel a bit sorry for the guy for his screwed-up upbringing I can't use that as an excuse to ignore what he has become... It's like he's trapped in some sort of arrested development where as an adult he's doing things he couldn't do as a kid - including - sexual exploration - and so in his warped mind all the stuff he does is 'ok'. I don't believe the stuff about using booze on the kids or whatever - but - who really knows?

Either way, you would think the people around him would've told him to stop hanging out with kids long ago to avoid any of this - since it was bound to arise sooner or later. Then again, those around him are likely too afraid to speak out and get cut off from the payroll.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Feb-02-2005 18:08:

Everyone should own a copy of his album 'Off the Wall'.


Posted by UWM on Feb-02-2005 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Everyone should own a copy of his album 'Off the Wall'.


+1

And Thriller. And Bad.


It used to be cool when I could brag about sharing the same birthday as Michael Jackson. Now, it just isn't so cool.


Posted by Project 7 on Feb-02-2005 19:04:

He even idmitted about 2 years on a documentry he wants to be a kid again

Pretty obvious got lots of kiddy rides in his back yard

Your question is he weird?
Well take another look at him,




Would you buy a car of that guy


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Feb-02-2005 19:21:

Any "evidence" you people have is filtered through you through the media trickle. Ultimately, none of you KNOW a damn thing about this and it's unfortunate that you feel the need to judge him off of incomplete conclusions. I don't support or deny his pedophilia because I don't have a fucking clue. If any of you know him personally (and would want to admit it ), then that's a different story. However, the lies of the media are perpetuated by the shortsighted fools who believe it.

I do agree with ZzZ The Goddess in that, from a parental standpoint, I wouldn't let my (hypothetical) kids anywhere near someone suspected to be a pedophile. But until you have seen the MJ Sex tapes, nobody really has any rightful place giving or believing the underdeveloped opinions of ignorant people.

That being said, he's a very talented entertainer, but I don't like his music.


Posted by Ondrayce on Feb-02-2005 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Any "evidence" you people have is filtered through you through the media trickle. Ultimately, none of you KNOW a damn thing about this and it's unfortunate that you feel the need to judge him off of incomplete conclusions.


Jermaine?


Posted by Archon007 on Feb-02-2005 21:53:

quote:
He wouldn't have paid one of those accusing familes upwards of $20 million to settle out of court if he was innocent.


Yea itslike that situation w/ Bill O' Reilly
If he had nothing to hide and was truly innocent why pay millions to the accuser?


Posted by DjDeComp on Feb-03-2005 01:17:




Posted by t�bias on Feb-03-2005 01:29:

He's guilty.

The guy is weird and should already be in jail.

Its common knowledge that when police go after famous people that they need more than the usual evidence to take the punt on going to court, its not the other way around.

I think that as the trial goes forward we will be seeing more concrete evidence of wrong doing, and its good to see that most of it has not hit the public because it could influence the trial.

Name me some other famous people that set up their home like some type of theme park for children to enjoy and have so many children over visiting?

Its suss.

Michael is certainly one of the most talented musical artists to ever grace the planet, ever, however this is little excuse for doing things wrong by children. I feel sorry for him in a way because of his messed up childhood, but there are lots of other people out there that suffer as bad or worse and don't do this kind of thing.

My opinion is my opinion only and I ask any of you that if you had children would you let them stay over at Michael Jackson's house for a week or two with you not around?


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Feb-03-2005 03:25:

eh who knows, but the way I think it is may be that obviously Michael is an easy target, I mean look at him, and his history, he's weird, and stupid, he shoudve known to stop hanging out with kids.
You never know maybe this parent told this kid to lie so they can get money, and since the majority of the public will always believe the kid (especiallly in this situation) its easy money.
anyways if the guy keeps hangin out with kids when if he's aquitted,he probably deserves to be in jail for being a dumbass


Posted by idoru on Feb-03-2005 04:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
I respect him for his music and his dancing


Agreed. Musically, he's great.

I think he's guilty, and I don't doubt it at all. Whether or not he had a bad life doesn't change my feelings regarding just how sick and fucked-up he is. I can understand throwing parties with a bunch of kids where you let them use your private theme park, but that's it. Letting them sleep in your bedroom, on your bed (whether you're in the bed, too, or not), is a bit odd. Going on TV and saying how lovely it is to "share your bed" is extremely creepy.

From what I've heard, they've found "younger" porn in his house, in that last search. That, plus his obsession with kids and two accusations, and him and that one kid on TV, to me that says he's definitely doing it.


Posted by smokeape on Feb-03-2005 04:16:

I heard they found Martha Stewart in the last search. Speaking of which, why doesn't Michael just give it up and go to jail like she did? When Martha pops outta there in a few months, she'll be more popular than ever...


[[[smoke]]]


Posted by Nautilus on Feb-03-2005 07:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Any "evidence" you people have is filtered through you through the media trickle. Ultimately, none of you KNOW a damn thing about this and it's unfortunate that you feel the need to judge him off of incomplete conclusions. I don't support or deny his pedophilia because I don't have a fucking clue. If any of you know him personally (and would want to admit it ), then that's a different story. However, the lies of the media are perpetuated by the shortsighted fools who believe it.

I do agree with ZzZ The Goddess in that, from a parental standpoint, I wouldn't let my (hypothetical) kids anywhere near someone suspected to be a pedophile. But until you have seen the MJ Sex tapes, nobody really has any rightful place giving or believing the underdeveloped opinions of ignorant people.

That being said, he's a very talented entertainer, but I don't like his music.


Ok, maybe we don't know the whole truth. But you have to admit he is mentally fucked up and that the things he is being accused of doing shouldn't be a surprise to ANYONE!

The man went from "YEAH NIGGA NIGGA!" to Diana Ross.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Feb-03-2005 07:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Nautilus
Ok, maybe we don't know the whole truth. But you have to admit he is mentally fucked up and that the things he is being accused of doing shouldn't be a surprise to ANYONE!

The man went from "YEAH NIGGA NIGGA!" to Diana Ross.


Well, yeah - he's a total weirdo - I'm not refuting that. And I think that the point people are so often trying to convey is that they think he's just very, very strange, and that may very well be the truth, but when you blindly accuse someone of something and say they deserve to spend their lives in prison because of something you have no real clue about...well, that speaks for itself - you have no clue.

I've just always believed that it is far worse to imprison the innocent than to let the guilty go free.


Posted by daydreamer on Feb-03-2005 14:27:

he made thriller
thriller....


Posted by ini on Feb-03-2005 15:10:

^^^^^ the most successful album of all time....


Posted by BeatFreak on Mar-01-2005 13:24:

Re: FINALLY some progress

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
In his opening statement, defense attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr. said the teen's mother had approached many celebrities, including "Tonight Show" host Jay Leno and comedian Jim Carrey, for money.

The teen's mother has claimed false imprisonment twice before, and has claimed she was a victim of sexual assaults, said Mesereau, who is expected to finish his opening statement on Tuesday.



Interesting....

Free Michael!!


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-01-2005 14:34:

i still think michael did it, but i don't think the fact that this woman has approached some celebrities for money before means michael is innocent. i mean...it sure doesn't help their case, but what if it was for a car accident or something? we don't know the details of those cases from that statement so we can't automatically assume what they were, it could always just be skillful lawyers...

but of course i think she's probably a money grubbing bastard hahaha...just like i think michael is a perverted child molester..


Posted by Protege on Mar-01-2005 17:30:

Re: FINALLY some progress

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
SANTA MARIA, California (CNN)


Hey its my hometown. Anyway, I think hes innocent and is just an easy target to exploit the way he likes children. Also, Tom Sneddon has a personal agenda against MJ and is out to see that he goes to jail.


Posted by tribu on Mar-01-2005 17:36:

I think this is a difficult case. My opinion currently is that, while Michael Jackson is almost certainly a child molestor, it's possible that he did nothing to this child. Perhaps this oppurtunistic mother saw all that was going on with Jackson and all but forced the child onto Jackson's ranch, knowing that, molestation or not, she would be suing.

I cant back any of this up, but if im sitting on the jury, after the opening statements, this is what im thinking...


Posted by Streakfury on Mar-01-2005 19:01:

He's made lots of widely appreciated music, let him fiddle kiddies if he wants...












































**rides off in a hill-billy pickup**


Posted by Dublin Guy on Mar-08-2005 22:50:

with jackson's cataloge of music,he SHOULD be allowed touch whoever he wants!


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Mar-08-2005 23:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
I respect him for his music and his dancing and I've always been a fan of his ("Billie Jean" is one of my fave tracks ever).

However, while I feel a bit sorry for the guy for his screwed-up upbringing I can't use that as an excuse to ignore what he has become... It's like he's trapped in some sort of arrested development where as an adult he's doing things he couldn't do as a kid - including - sexual exploration - and so in his warped mind all the stuff he does is 'ok'. I don't believe the stuff about using booze on the kids or whatever - but - who really knows?

Either way, you would think the people around him would've told him to stop hanging out with kids long ago to avoid any of this - since it was bound to arise sooner or later. Then again, those around him are likely too afraid to speak out and get cut off from the payroll.


+1 - I think he's techincally guilty, but I think he does genuinely have the mindset of 10 year old at most


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