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Posted by igottaknow on Mar-07-2005 02:56:

jokes aside, there is nothing "sporting" about hunting. How about leveling the playing field?


Posted by Dervish on Mar-07-2005 03:07:

I'd disagree, I used to go fishing alot when I was younger.

I enjoyed it, no challange really, just liked going fishing with my family. Maybe it's more a group activity?

You can say it's differnt to hunting deer and stuff if you like, but I'd say fishing is easier. Though perhaps fishing can't really be defined as hunting. Depends how you put it.


Posted by Cal on Mar-07-2005 03:40:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
I have evolved to hunt women


I know youre joking but theres truth to that. The feeling you get from success in either are very similar.


Posted by igottaknow on Mar-07-2005 03:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Cal
I know youre joking but theres truth to that. The feeling you get from success in either are very similar.

i agree its exilirating stalking a woman


Posted by Phil r on Mar-07-2005 18:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
I'd disagree, I used to go fishing alot when I was younger.

I enjoyed it, no challange really, just liked going fishing with my family. Maybe it's more a group activity?

You can say it's differnt to hunting deer and stuff if you like, but I'd say fishing is easier. Though perhaps fishing can't really be defined as hunting. Depends how you put it.


fishing is more to do with the stupidity of the fish, really...

"oh look, there's dinner hanging from the ceiling"

*swim swim chomp*

"bugger."


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-07-2005 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
i agree its exilirating stalking a woman


stalking being the correct word





Posted by Boomer187 on Mar-07-2005 19:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Cal
Hunting is a natural thing if youre a man. Primal instinct kind of thing, goes back thousands and thousands of years.

Don't knock it.




no way, I am sure there were some civilised ancestors that were vegetarians.



plus, do you guys know where the meat you eat comes from? if so, whats teh big deal about hunting animals?


also certain places need population control of animals, like in michigan, if we didn't ahve deer season there would be a lot more wrecked cars. .



its also amusing to see how ignorant non-hunters are (refer to multitude of replies above)



Posted by beats and beeps on Mar-07-2005 20:06:

I think hunting is stupid, sure, but I dont have a big problem with it as long as the animal is killed in a humane way, and as long as most of it is used (eaten) Hunting purely for fur, or sport is wrong. But hunting for meat isnt really any worse than picking up a pound of ground beef at the market.

I'm strongly against fur though. Leather etc. Is alright, because we eat the meat too right? But killing purely for fur, like they do with the smaller animals is stupid. Especially when there is no need for fur, or even leather in our society anymore.

I still think eating meat is important, and healthy though. People say oh eating meat is stupid, we dont need it anymore, we have vitamin fortified shit. Well, you better not eat lettuce, because its nutrients can be found elsewhere, why kill plants needlessly? Oh wait, I bet something died to put those vitamins in that geletain capsule too didnt they...?


Posted by Arbiter on Mar-07-2005 20:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
also certain places need population control of animals, like in michigan, if we didn't ahve deer season there would be a lot more wrecked cars. .


That reminds me of those vegetarian idiots who say that we're torturing cows by keeping them "imprisoned," as if they would somehow be better off if we just released them all into the forest...

The stupidity of hunting in my view comes not from any type of moral judgment, but the, well, stupid way that people hunt which seems to maximize the amount of time spent sitting on your ass doing precisely nothing. I'll never understand the satisfaction of sitting in a blind for four hours and waiting for some defenseless animal to wander over to your bait and then shooting it. That's like saying that you're going to go "hunting" for water, and you go outside and sit in the middle of a sidwalk waiting for it to rain - and then when it finally does, trying to claim it as some sort of accomplishment that you successfully found water.


Posted by denys envy on Mar-07-2005 20:14:

soo... white trash only addresses the people who qualify for the term... i don't get it


Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on Mar-07-2005 20:15:

I prefer my animals farmed, slaughted, neatly packed & served with garlic & salt.


Posted by Dervish on Mar-07-2005 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter The stupidity of hunting in my view comes not from any type of moral judgment, but the, well, stupid way that people hunt which seems to maximize the amount of time spent sitting on your ass doing precisely nothing. I'll never understand the satisfaction of sitting in a blind for four hours and waiting for some defenseless animal to wander over to your bait and then shooting it. That's like saying that you're going to go "hunting" for water, and you go outside and sit in the middle of a sidwalk waiting for it to rain - and then when it finally does, trying to claim it as some sort of accomplishment that you successfully found water.


With respect, just becuase you don't understand something doesn't make it stupid does it?

I think it's more the process of hunting rather than the killing thats the part people like. Maybe a bit of satisfaction that you get something at the end though, and getting better at something.

I say live and let live(no pun intended...).


Posted by Boomer187 on Mar-07-2005 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
That reminds me of those vegetarian idiots who say that we're torturing cows by keeping them "imprisoned," as if they would somehow be better off if we just released them all into the forest...

The stupidity of hunting in my view comes not from any type of moral judgment, but the, well, stupid way that people hunt which seems to maximize the amount of time spent sitting on your ass doing precisely nothing. I'll never understand the satisfaction of sitting in a blind for four hours and waiting for some defenseless animal to wander over to your bait and then shooting it. That's like saying that you're going to go "hunting" for water, and you go outside and sit in the middle of a sidwalk waiting for it to rain - and then when it finally does, trying to claim it as some sort of accomplishment that you successfully found water.




realise that they are not sitting there waiting....there is mass quantities of beer, and good stories. its something you do with your friends, very much like clubbing, you all travel together and chat, then you watch this show, then you hang out afterwards.


Posted by UWM on Mar-07-2005 20:36:

Wow, some of you people seem to be quite uneducated about the kinds of people who go hunting.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-07-2005 20:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Jackson
WTF? it wasnt bleeped here.


...It was where *I* was at. lol

Maybe that was just during daytime TV or something - but I distinctly remember that movie posters in Cambridge had the word "Shagged" put as %@#$%^! or something to that effect. Also, television commercials always said "Austin Powers: The Spy who -bleeped- me." It sticks in my mind because I was thinking about how you can say whatever the fuck you want to on British TV, even show nudity (a big no-no in USA), and yet - the word "shag" is profane enough to censor.

Maybe there's different connotations even in the same country?


Posted by igottaknow on Mar-07-2005 20:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
With respect, just becuase you don't understand something doesn't make it stupid does it?

I think it's more the process of hunting rather than the killing thats the part people like. Maybe a bit of satisfaction that you get something at the end though, and getting better at something.

I say live and let live(no pun intended...).

Play Counter-Strike and leave the poor animals out of your sick joy ride foo


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-07-2005 21:59:

i am not for hunting animals (then again, how do we eat our meat ??? )..

however, i do understand the 'hunter' presepective why they want to hunt compared to other's prespectives to why not to hunt .. hunting is an american tradition that has been carried down from ages to ages dating back to the prehistoric ages and european era. we can't control people who love to hunt, because it's in their blood .. hunting is not in my blood .. my parents dont hunt or fish .. my grandparents never hunted or fished ..

also, the same question goes for the common fisherman .. why do people fish? why do people catch seafood in the lakes and oceans, like crabs, crawfish, oysters, etc ... ?? fishing is like hunting .. we are trying to catch an animal of some sort .. it's all just the beauty of life .. everyone has a different type of lifestyle .. some have the hunting lifestyle (seems to be the country lifestyle, in my prespective) .. and others have the urban lifestyle (away from the forests and animals .. just big buildings, traffic, and loud distractions) .. hahaha..


Posted by NiteMer on Mar-07-2005 22:34:

I'm not a hunter, personally, but I don't see any reason why one shouldn't hunt. I think some of the ultra,red-neck hunters are a farce, but there are many different classes that hunt. We were put here to rule over animals anyway, IMO.


Posted by Arbiter on Mar-07-2005 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
realise that they are not sitting there waiting....there is mass quantities of beer, and good stories. its something you do with your friends, very much like clubbing, you all travel together and chat, then you watch this show, then you hang out afterwards.


Beer and friends and stories are good, but that is really not related to the enjoyment of hunting because one could easily have the beer and stories with friends without the hunting being involved at all. The tendency of people to partake in two or more activities concurrently and the virtue of some of these activities does not explain or justify the inclusion of the rest.


Posted by Haak on Mar-07-2005 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by LinX
one time i shot a squirrel with my paintball gun... thats about all the hunting ive ever done..


that's mean!


Posted by igottaknow on Mar-07-2005 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Beer and friends and stories are good, but that is really not related to the enjoyment of hunting because one could easily have the beer and stories with friends without the hunting being involved at all. The tendency of people to partake in two or more activities concurrently and the virtue of some of these activities does not explain or justify the inclusion of the rest.

Hunting is a thinly veiled excuse to hangout with other guys.


Posted by smokeape on Mar-08-2005 00:41:

I haven't hunted for a few years, but killed a couple dozen deer and tons of other critters in my life. I get more thrill on the water fishing it seems these days. Boar hunting is year round down here and you can even hunt with pistol, so I might go try that with my .357 magnum. Some sport in it I reckon. OH, didn't mention trapping. Me and a bud caught 96 beavers one year and piles of muskrat, coons, foxes, minks and a very few otter and bobcats. I know, hahahhaaa beavers...just like Beavis. After all, I got an undergrad in Wildlife Mangement(seriously).


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