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Originally posted by beats and beeps I thought that arpeggio is like...you take a chord, and the notes that make up that chord are played rapidly one after another? So like, you can play chords on a piano, so if you play the notes of that chord quickly one after another on the piano, it would be a percussive(?) arpeggio? If that makes sense at all?

no you're basically right.

an arpeggio is when you play the chords of a scale together...

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Originally posted by JakeC apreggio is how you play. with a violin instead of playing long notes you would pluck the strings.

Ok you dont understand.

You can play an arpeggio on a piano.

Piano is percussion.

You can play an arpeggio on a harpsichord.

A harpsichord is percussion I beleive.

I'm quite sure it is not how you play the instrument, its how the notes are played on an instrument.

yes that is what i was saying.

you pluck the strings in a pattern of your chosen chord.

To produce quality work in any endeavour (music, art, literature, etc...) requires two things: Creativity and Craft.

The Creativity you are born with; no one can teach you that. It is your natural ability, your genetics, your knack for it all.

Craft is what you learn; it is your education, your training, your honing your skills into flawless precision. It is what you what you experience, what you study and absorb and apply in your daily life.

Creativity can not be taught. Either you have it or you don't. A natural fat guy will not try to become an Olympic sprinter; a dullard with a below-average IQ will not try to become a nuclear physicist. We learn early on what we are good at, and these god-given talents shape our interests.

But the Craft--that is, the technique, style and strategy used in the production of your chosen artform--CAN be taught. The fastest runner in the world will never break the world record unless he works hard and trains for that opportunity; the world's smartest genius will never win the Nobel Prize unless he goes to school and acquires umpteen degrees studiously delving into his chosen profession.

The best people in the world use both these things, in concert, to get things done. If you have the Craft but you don't have the Creativity, your work will be boring and unoriginal. If you have unparalleled Creativity but haven't learned anything, your work will be incompetent and unprofessional.

Once again:

Craft without creativity results in trite, derivative unoriginality.
Creativity without craft results in unprofessional incompetence.

You can be the most gifted musician in the world, if you don't have the craft to fine-tune your skills into harmonic genius, you might as well be busking on the street.

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Originally posted by JakeC yes that is what i was saying. you pluck the strings in a pattern of your chosen chord.

Ugh, youre gonna make me type in caps.

I do not think that you understand what I'm trying to say.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PLUCKING AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH STRINGS.

Its playing notes of a chord one after another, not playing the chord as a whole.

CHORDS CAN BE PLAYED ON MANY NON STRINGED (PLUCKED) INSTRUMENTS INCLUDING PERCUSSIVE INSTRUMENTS SUCH AS A PIANO.

Refering to your original post stating that an arpeggio is plucked and as a result can not be percussion.

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Originally posted by JakeC yes that is what i was saying. you pluck the strings in a pattern of your chosen chord.

but what he is saying is that an arpeggio doesn't have to be plucked...

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The sounding of the tones of a chord in rapid succession rather than simultaneously.

that's an arpeggio...it just so happens that when you do an arpeggio on certain instruments aka violin, you pluck...you don't have to pluck to do an arpeggio...

Appreggio has lots to do with plucking, when you play the violin or any stringed instrument thats what i was refering to.

but hey you learn summat new everyday .

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Originally posted by JakeC apreggio means plucked and percussion is not plucked.

Not just plucked. It is any chord with the notes played in succession instead of together. All instruments (wind, string, etc...) can do it.

I know you can do that with string instruments, but since there isn't any string section in the production of electronic music, all arpeggios are done with a keyboard (though probably fed through an effects processor).....a percussive instrument.

It's a nitpicking work-a-round, I know, but I'm trying to drive a stake of a point through this guy's head here.

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Originally posted by Ishkur It's a nitpicking work-a-round, I know, but I'm trying to drive a stake of a point through this guy's head here.

i would have given up by now

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Originally posted by beats and beeps A harpsichord is percussion I beleive.

Actually, a harpsichord is not percussion. That's the difference between piano and harpsichord: a piano has a bell that strikes the strings. A harpsichord plucks them. Piano is percussion. Harpsichord is not.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Actually, a harpsichord is not percussion. That's the difference between piano and harpsichord: a piano has a bell that strikes the strings. A harpsichord plucks them. Piano is percussion. Harpsichord is not.

Where does a clavichord stand? Would I again be incorrect to assume that it is percussion?

A Clavichord is, I believe, a plucked vibrating reed. I think. So...no.

I should look this up.

After googling.

"The clavichord had a very simple action. When pressed, the key lifted a tangent, a small copper square, which struck the string, as well as lifting a damper, which allowed the strings vibration to be sustained as long as the key was held4. The clavichord had one string per key, sometimes one for two keys, while a modern grand piano contains up to three strings per key. While the small tangent and the small number of strings made the clavichord a very quiet instrument, the tangent allowed for Crescendos and Diminuendos (gradual dynamic changes), as well as some semblance of a dynamic range. Of the early stringed keyboards, the clavichord was the most similar to the piano."
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Stu...storypiano.html
^^ a great read!

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