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Posted by UWM on Apr-07-2005 15:03:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
hahahahaha yea, when was the last time a club closed cause of bankrupcy, with a totally legit buisness?

Haha you really don't know much about how clubs operate, do you?

Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 15:03:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Because it's popular, and people like to be trend-whores to fit in with their friends.

and you guys want these people listning to edm?

Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 15:04:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Haha you really don't know much about how clubs operate, do you?

Well can you name any clubs that went bankrupt in nyc?

im sure you could list ones that got shut down.

Posted by Floorfiller on Apr-07-2005 15:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Krysta_101
My question is why in the hell it hasn't changed too much though what with the access one has to it. Why listen to some emo band that sings about bloody eyelashes when you can easily download a track that is meant to uplift you and get you moving? It's just grrrr-ish.

well...of course everyone on this site is gonna agree hehehe. but from most of my friends that don't know about "techno" as they call it hehe, its really just because they don't know anything about it. they don't search it out. if they go to a club, they have a good time and will dance, but then they also think that is the only setting for it. really i think the whole rave scene gave EDM a bad start here in the US because people have a lot of stereotypes about the music now. and i guess a lot of people think that trance or whatever genre doesn't have lyrics...and that once again is just stupid hehehe.

i think if people actually took the time to listen to some of what is out there today, rather then just brush it off as something they don't like...we'd have a lot more people in the clubs and into EDM in general...

Posted by Floorfiller on Apr-07-2005 15:07:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
ok so what would happen if i said your town now has a 2am curfew

well actually clubs and bars usually close around 2am...so i don't see that making much of a difference.

Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 15:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
well...of course everyone on this site is gonna agree hehehe. but from most of my friends that don't know about "techno" as they call it hehe, its really just because they don't know anything about it. they don't search it out. if they go to a club, they have a good time and will dance, but then they also think that is the only setting for it. really i think the whole rave scene gave EDM a bad start here in the US because people have a lot of stereotypes about the music now. and i guess a lot of people think that trance or whatever genre doesn't have lyrics...and that once again is just stupid hehehe.

i think if people actually took the time to listen to some of what is out there today, rather then just brush it off as something they don't like...we'd have a lot more people in the clubs and into EDM in general...

you should ask DJ Tek what happened when he was spinning a few weeks ago...

Posted by Krysta_101 on Apr-07-2005 15:07:

Posted by UWM on Apr-07-2005 15:07:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
Well can you name any clubs that went bankrupt in nyc?

im sure you could list ones that got shut down.

Why would I know anything about clubs in New York? I'm obviously talking about how they operate in general. I do appreciate your attempts to undermine my intellgence, however.

Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Why would I know anything about clubs in New York? I'm obviously talking about how they operate in general. I do appreciate your attempts to undermine my intellgence, however.

so you cant name at least 3 clubs that got shut down in nyc?

Posted by UWM on Apr-07-2005 15:10:

Twilo, Arc, Limelight?

Posted by Floorfiller on Apr-07-2005 15:10:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
so you cant name at least 3 clubs that got shut down in nyc?

don't be stupid...

Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 15:11:

can you name the top 3 clubs in the us in terms of talent going there since 1998?

Posted by tiesto14 on Apr-07-2005 15:12:

Re: Why EDM is dead in America?

quote:
Originally posted by Krysta_101
Time for me to get on my soap box and stfu to those who get annoyed by it. But I have been trying to ascertain why EDM is so damn dead here in America. I'm guessing it's just because most of us don't have the patience to listen to an entire album by Sasha as he loops ethereal beats and synths together. Most of us would rather pop in a Lil' John cd and laugh as he says "yeaaaaah!"

When you go to a club these days in the States you see those damn kandii girls whom I detest. You know, those ones who snorted their prescribed ritalin, jump around shouting "plur!" and chew on their glowsticks. They also tend to look like rejected extras from the movie Party Monster.

That's about as normal looking as they get.

When I go to a club, I generally try to look somewhat classy...

me on the far left, Keri, then Kristy (oh yeah, the KKK is back, and some of us are in black, whoda thunk it?)

If you ask someone to name a trance track, they can only name Sandstorm. Gah! Sandstorm is not the be all and end all of trance! I dunno, it's just kind of annoying to me.

What are your thoughts on this?

funny seems to be a worldwide epidemic

The UK has the same shit so stfu...

and wow so does Germany

and babe you are not classy...

I despise chics like you who go to clubs thinking they have some sort of better right to be there over other people...simply based on the way you dress or your attitude.

YOu have no more right to dance in a club then a clubkid....so give it up...

Posted by UWM on Apr-07-2005 15:12:

Umm, what? What does that have to do with anything?

Posted by Psionic on Apr-07-2005 15:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Krysta_101
My question is why in the hell it hasn't changed too much though what with the access one has to it. Why listen to some emo band that sings about bloody eyelashes when you can easily download a track that is meant to uplift you and get you moving? It's just grrrr-ish.

I can list a hundred reasons why electronic music still hasn't caught on in America, despite the access, but that'd be too much work.

But basically, one difference I notice between us (electronic music fans) and them (pop/hip hop/emo/whatever fans) is that we love our music a lot more than they love theirs. They'll buy the latest CD, play it a few times, and in less than a year they'll stop listening to it either because the band disappears or it's not the "in" thing anymore. However, how many times have you seen someone on these boards talk about digging up old records/CDs (e.g. the Northern Exposure series) and talking about how, even years after they were released, they'll still have a fresh sound? The difference between electronic music fans and mainstream music fans is that we appreciate the music from all the years, while mainstream people only like what's "new" and "fresh."

Posted by Krysta_101 on Apr-07-2005 15:13:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
can you name the top 3 clubs in the us in terms of talent going there since 1998?

Okay, I'm only partially retarded on Thursdays. But what in the poo are you getting at with this one?

Posted by tiesto14 on Apr-07-2005 15:14:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
you do know that the more attention that clubs get, more laws are bound to result from it.

cough cough TWILO!!

Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 15:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Krysta_101
Okay, I'm only partially retarded on Thursdays. But what in the poo are you getting at with this one?

that all the better clubs have gotten shut down...

Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 15:14:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
cough cough TWILO!!

omg no way

Posted by dj tek on Apr-07-2005 15:15:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
you should ask DJ Tek what happened when he was spinning a few weeks ago...

huh ? lol..

Posted by Krysta_101 on Apr-07-2005 15:16:

Re: Re: Why EDM is dead in America?

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
funny seems to be a worldwide epidemic

The UK has the same shit so stfu...

and wow so does Germany

and babe you are not classy...

I despise chics like you who go to clubs thinking they have some sort of better right to be there over other people...simply based on the way you dress or your attitude.

YOu have no more right to dance in a club then a clubkid....so give it up...

I shall ask this once again... were a lot of classes you had back in school were with a bunch of kids confined to wheelchairs speaking in onomatopoieas?

Shut up.

Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 15:16:

you guys know one of dj teks parties got raided cause there i guess was a suspicion that underage drinking was going on. But no one there was underage.

Posted by UWM on Apr-07-2005 15:16:

A lot of the "Mega-clubs" outside of NYC seem to have stayed open, and they consistenly bring in the same level of talent. I really don't see what your point is.

Posted by tiesto14 on Apr-07-2005 15:16:

Re: Why EDM is dead in America?

quote:
Originally posted by Krysta_101

and you dont look classy to me (classy = your word)....i mean you are pretty dont get me wrong....but classy chics dont cake on makeup like you and your get-along-gang pals.

To me you seem like a hooch.....

If anything we can blame you for attracting the juice head gym homos to the clubs...because they sure frig it up more then any candy raver ever will.

Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 15:16:

quote:
Originally posted by dj tek
huh ? lol..

what ever happened @ seho?

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