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Posted by Hydarnes on Apr-12-2005 11:40:

quote:
Originally posted by n0bben
Music Discussion
This is where you can talk about Trance, or any electronic music.



Posted by Hydarnes on Apr-12-2005 11:42:

quote:
Originally posted by fissipissi
n0bben bastard listen, you dare insulting someone who is listening to electronic music( no i dont pull rap,hip-hop into the electronic genre) ) on a trance board? you can stick your fucking rap,hip-hop music right up your ass and piss off ...rap,hip-hop listeners are not welcome here !!!!!


You can dispense with the harsh language, but I totally agree with what you're saying. These hip-hop supporters haven't even been able to firmly establish it as a bonafide form of EDM, and then they have the temerity to talk about it in a trance forum.

I should ask everyone for their favorite Pop artist.


Posted by Zenchowdah on Apr-12-2005 11:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Hydarnes
You can dispense with the harsh language, but I totally agree with what you're saying. These hip-hop supporters haven't even been able to firmly establish it as a bonafide form of EDM, and then they have the temerity to talk about it in a trance forum.

I should ask everyone for their favorite Pop artist.



you've been a member since breakfast. stfu


Posted by n0bben on Apr-12-2005 12:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Zenchowdah
you've been a member since breakfast. stfu




another ignorant tit, horray

but what to expect from someone who wrote this:

quote:
Originally posted by Hydarnes
I agree! Satellite was breathtaking! And "Beautiful Together" is probably just as stellar.

The song has everything you want in a trance tune, atmospheric feel, great vocals and excellent melody.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-12-2005 12:06:

lol

-nice edit


Posted by Hydarnes on Apr-12-2005 12:29:

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but what to expect from someone who wrote this:


ROFL, so says someone who likes hip-hop!


Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-12-2005 12:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Hydarnes
ROFL, so says someone who likes hip-hop!


quote:
My love is like first steps in this snow, baby,
I follow you everywhere you go, baby.
The pain as light has come to wake you
But you will never realize
That I inspire the dreams that guide you baby.

I follow the winds that bring the cold, baby,
I light a fire in your soul, baby.
The lightest touch of feathers falling
My love might be invisible
But I inspire the dreams that guide you, baby

You're a half a world away
But in my mind I whisper every single word you say.
And before you sleep at night
You pray to me, your lucky star, your singing satellite.

Your singing satellite

You say a prayer
You say a prayer


Posted by fissipissi on Apr-12-2005 13:24:

rap,hip-hop just as music = garbage

rap,hip-hop fans = they have no clue about real music


Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-12-2005 13:28:

quote:
Originally posted by fissipissi
rap,hip-hop just as music = garbage

rap,hip-hop fans = they have no clue about real music


you know rap & hip hop fans, say the same about "techno"(IVD - Castles in the sky)?


Posted by fuct4less on Apr-12-2005 13:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Hydarnes
You can dispense with the harsh language, but I totally agree with what you're saying. These hip-hop supporters haven't even been able to firmly establish it as a bonafide form of EDM, and then they have the temerity to talk about it in a trance forum.

I should ask everyone for their favorite Pop artist.


Last I checked, it was you who couldn't grasp the grand simplicity of fact that any music reliant upon an electronic means can constitute as electronic music. All the arguments you provided thusfar have been moot.

And pop is more of a concept than a defined genre of music, much in the same sense that Christian music is. Pop music can sound like anything, really. Mainstream trends during the past forty years have proven this well.

As for the intellect of hip-hop, there has been no such criteria given to determine whether or not one genre is more intellectual than another, most attempts to insinuate otherwise have been without credible argument. Saying that trance is more intellectually superior than another is pretty damn dumb as it is already; I mean, seriously, take that plug out of your ass and stop the pseudo-intellectual elitism. As a matter of fact, I'd be willing to place a heavy wager that hip-hop in general is far more intellectual than the crap being spewed forth as trance simply due to what seems to be that hip-hop artists (yes, this includes that top ten pop-hop stuff) are more technically proficient than your average trance producer and the fact that the genre tends to spawn a far more diverse sound in comparison to the formulaic Euro-anthems we've all been bombarded with over the past ten years.

Oh, and one more thing. Hydarnes, Hissiprissy, this may come as decent mind fuck to you guys - the first trance song (The KLF's 1988 Pure Trance Original Mix of their hit What Time Is Love), believe it or not, contained rap vocals on the main versions of the song.


Posted by Cosmic on Apr-12-2005 13:49:

California Love
Gorillaz
Forget about DR
Keep their head's ringing

are 4 good songs


Posted by n0bben on Apr-12-2005 13:55:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by fuct4less
Last I checked, it was you who couldn't grasp the grand simplicity of fact that any music reliant upon an electronic means can constitute as electronic music. All the arguments you provided thusfar have been moot.

As for the intellect of hip-hop, there has been no such criteria given to determine whether or not one genre is more intellectual than another, most attempts to insinuate otherwise have been without credible argument. Saying that trance is more intellectually superior than another is pretty damn dumb as it is already; I mean, seriously, take that plug out of your ass and stop the pseudo-intellectual elitism. As a matter of fact, I'd be willing to place a heavy wager that hip-hop in general is far more intellectual than the crap being spewed forth as trance simply due to what seems to be that hip-hop artists (yes, this includes that top ten pop-hop stuff) are more technically proficient than your average trance producer and the fact that the genre tends to spawn a far more diverse sound in comparison to the formulaic Euro-anthems we've all been bombarded with over the past ten years.


couldnt agree more.

quote:
Originally posted by fuct4less
Oh, and one more thing. Hydarnes, Hissiprissy, this may come as decent mind fuck to you guys - the first trance song (The KLF's 1988 Pure Trance Original Mix of their hit What Time Is Love), believe it or not, contained rap vocals on the main versions of the song.


haha, awesome finish


Posted by fuct4less on Apr-12-2005 14:13:

quote:
Originally posted by n0bben
haha, awesome finish


Spanks.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Apr-12-2005 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by fuct4less
Oh, and one more thing. Hydarnes, Hissiprissy, this may come as decent mind fuck to you guys - the first trance song (The KLF's 1988 Pure Trance Original Mix of their hit What Time Is Love), believe it or not, contained rap vocals on the main versions of the song.


Mate, we've proved them wrong time and time again- but their ignorance and prejudice is too deep. I say ban both of the fuckers. It's people like them who are giving a bad name to this forum and the international trance community with close-minded bullshit.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-12-2005 14:47:

there is no need for that...


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Apr-12-2005 14:54:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
there is no need for that...


Yes there is. This is the reason why we get ultra-sarcastic Canadian web personalities bad-mouthing the entire forum.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-12-2005 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Yes there is. This is the reason why we get ultra-sarcastic Canadian web personalities bad-mouthing the entire forum.


what do you think your going to get in response? probably something along the lines of what you just said. If you have a problem just pm neo or something...


Posted by biznology on Apr-12-2005 16:26:

shut up! shut up!

we forgot to mention Goodie Mob, and specifically their Still Standing album with the song Black Ice aka Sky High. No doubt it has the most beautiful verse ive heard so far:

[Verse 5: Andre Benjamin]
Friends, Romans, countrymen lend me yo' eardrums
It was a beautiful day off in the neighborhood
Yellows and greens and blues and browns
and greys and hues that ooze beneath dilapidated woods
Ain't a thing could explain what pertains
to cocaine it's a stain that rain
See summer roll around niggaz holla bout change
Then they steady move them ki's like Bob James
Cause old man winter's arrived, the temperature dives
November just died, December's alive
Thus it ain't no typical ride
Just individual's way to bring home
the bacon when bacon was all gone
Makin it our own, takin me all wrong
We've all indulged in the bulge of those no-no's
No you ain't solo, it's even lower levels you can go
Take sun people, put 'em in a land of snow

wicked imagery.

now go back to bashing each other|


Posted by mto on Apr-12-2005 16:26:

The Roots, Talib Kweli, Masta Ace (his A Long Hot Summer album), MF Doom, Gangstarr... n00ben made some good suggestions.


Posted by Allied Nations on Apr-12-2005 16:50:

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Originally posted by mto
The Roots, Talib Kweli, Masta Ace (his A Long Hot Summer album), MF Doom, Gangstarr... n00ben made some good suggestions.


word, talib is the shit..


kwality was so hot!

kanye west on the tracks!


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Apr-12-2005 19:19:

I just saw Talib Kweli live this weekend, and he was awesome. Check out the track "Get By"


Posted by biznology on Apr-12-2005 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I just saw Talib Kweli live this weekend, and he was awesome. Check out the track "Get By"


well if we hope to convince the idiots, they should listen to Talib and HiTek's track - Too Late...

tho ive posted this on the forum before. one of the most euphoric hip hop songs ever, and it talks shit about how crappy current hip hop can be|


Posted by Slylee on Apr-13-2005 00:00:

grab these 2 albums from Outkast

Aquemini & ATLiens


Posted by retrobyte on Apr-13-2005 00:05:

anything with Del Tha Funkee Homosapien tends to to get me groovin. look up the Handsome Boy Modeling School and a few choice Gorillaz tracks.
same goes for Jurassic 5 and N.E.R.D.


Posted by fissipissi on Apr-13-2005 00:28:

http://www.stophiphop.de/

ANTI-RAP/HIP-HOP WEBPAGE

funny stuff ..this site has been developed by metal fans ..hoiii metal becomes very simpathic to me


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