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Posted by Prism on Jul-22-2005 03:51:

so what format does the CDJ-800 play CDs in? Audio or data worth up to 700 MB of mp3 files recorded on a CDRW?


Posted by Shudder on Jul-22-2005 05:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
I've heard good things about the jogwheel on the CDJ 800, but my biggest thing is the 0.5% pitch, as i've been told that it is less precise than the CDJ 1000 MK2 is.


hearing things from other people isnt the best. go try it out for yourself so you'll know the difference.


Posted by alligator on Jul-22-2005 07:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Prism
so what format does the CDJ-800 play CDs in? Audio or data worth up to 700 MB of mp3 files recorded on a CDRW?


except the cdj 200, no other pioneer cdj (as of yet) playes mp3 format


Posted by Ste on Jul-22-2005 08:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
Oh and about the MK3s, yeah I compare the MK3s to probably the M3Ds in the Technics line of turntables. Probably some minor differences, but all the DJs would still use their MK2s in the future, seeing as many still use the original CDJ 1000 (and not the MK2s) to this day and are still happy. The MK3s would probably cost at least 1,500, and then the MK2s would probably come down in price a little, and they probably would still be the standard when it comes to CDJs.


i didn't know there was an mk3.

sure do what you feel is best for you, i am only giving people advice as a CDJ who plays out a bit and uses dual CDJ 800



as for the mp3 playing function - who on earth is gonna wanna skip through 100s of tracks on the one CD to play a track for every mix? i find 8 tracks on one cd is enough and never fills it anyway.


Posted by Spirit5 on Jul-22-2005 14:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Ste
i didn't know there was an mk3.

sure do what you feel is best for you, i am only giving people advice as a CDJ who plays out a bit and uses dual CDJ 800



as for the mp3 playing function - who on earth is gonna wanna skip through 100s of tracks on the one CD to play a track for every mix? i find 8 tracks on one cd is enough and never fills it anyway.


Well the MK3 is rumored to be released in 2006 or 2007, or so I've read. I am just speculating that it will be like the Technics 1210 MK2 vs the MK3 debate (or M3D..MK5), not a huge difference really between them and people still use their 1210 MK2s to this day, never upgraded to M3Ds or MK5s. So thats all I'm saying...

As for the advice, I appreciate it. I will probably go back to Guitar Center and play around with both as I had done a week ago. They both felt nice. The CDJ 800s platter felt a little smoother to me, but the CDJ 1000 MK2 just seemed more "high end" like a Technics turntable. And as for MP3s too, I think its stupid to have that many tracks on a CD too. The most I'de put is 5 on a CD. I wouldn't want to write out 10 tracks on the CD, 5 seems like enough to remember. Having that CD text helps with this too I think, which is a plus for the CDJ 200 and 1000 MK2. I just wish the CDJ 800s did as well.....


Posted by Prism on Jul-22-2005 15:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Ste
as for the mp3 playing function - who on earth is gonna wanna skip through 100s of tracks on the one CD to play a track for every mix? i find 8 tracks on one cd is enough and never fills it anyway.


Me!! What's a song search for? If you had them your mp3s on CDRW recorded as data at least a hundred of them you're never gonna have to change the CD!!


Posted by djshtr on Jul-22-2005 19:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Prism
Me!! What's a song search for? If you had them your mp3s on CDRW recorded as data at least a hundred of them you're never gonna have to change the CD!!



precisely. I have about 100 trance tracks on a mp3 CD.. i'll never have to eject teh CD unless i'm switching genre, then ill throw in my house CD, etc. And since most decent decks have ID3, its easy to scroll to the name very quickly. You can also pop the disc and use dos mode to get a file listing and then put it into MS word and make it a numbered list. Then you can glance and it and see what number your track is and quickly key to that track (in case you dont have ID3 on your player).

much better than going through a huge wallet of CDs...


Posted by spdandpwr on Jul-22-2005 19:54:

mp3s cds are more likely to skip if their is a scratch on the disk


Posted by alligator on Jul-22-2005 20:47:

quote:
Originally posted by spdandpwr
mp3s cds are more likely to skip if their is a scratch on the disk


don't you have a problem if an audio cd has a scratch...it starts skipping and making a horrible noise...

the denon have a quick search built in so you can jump between folder, and a set amount of tracks at one time...

having mp3 format..you only need a few cds and still have music to play for hours and hours....where having audio cds you'll have to have your hundreds of songs to match a mp3 format cd...


Posted by spdandpwr on Jul-22-2005 21:21:

mp3 is convieniant (sp) but scratches will affect more tracks on an mp3 cd and on an audio cd it does not affect as many


Posted by alligator on Jul-22-2005 22:06:

definetly doesn't effect as many...but you'll have a copy of the mp3 cd for mixing purposes and back up (again lost easier than for audio)...

i still love using my audio cds, instead of mp3


Posted by Prism on Jul-23-2005 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by djshtr
precisely. I have about 100 trance tracks on a mp3 CD.. i'll never have to eject teh CD unless i'm switching genre, then ill throw in my house CD, etc. And since most decent decks have ID3, its easy to scroll to the name very quickly. You can also pop the disc and use dos mode to get a file listing and then put it into MS word and make it a numbered list. Then you can glance and it and see what number your track is and quickly key to that track (in case you dont have ID3 on your player).

much better than going through a huge wallet of CDs...


does the CDJ-800 support an mp3 CD? What other CD players out there play cds recorded in mp3 format?


Posted by spdandpwr on Jul-23-2005 02:55:

800 does not support mp3s

CD Players that support MP3s:

Gemini MPX-30 - $400
Gemini MPX-3 - $400
Numark CDN95 Dual MP3/CD Player - $1000
Numark HDCD1 Dual CD Player - $1500
Denon DJ DND9000 - $1300
Denon DJ DND4000 - $600
Denon DJ DNS3000 - $600
Denon DJ DN-D4500 - $600
Tascam CDX1700 - $700
Stanton C504 - $800
Denon DJ DN-D6000 Dual CD/MP3 Player - $900
Numark MP300 Dual MP3/CD Player - $500
Gemini MP3000X - $500
Vestax CDX 05 CD Player - $550
Denon DJ DNS1000 - $400

if you are looking for affordability then check out the denon dns1000 or the cdj-200 and don't even consider the Gemini (I don't even know why I even bothered putting them on).


Posted by Prism on Jul-23-2005 04:08:

quote:
Originally posted by spdandpwr
800 does not support mp3s

CD Players that support MP3s:

Gemini MPX-30 - $400
Gemini MPX-3 - $400
Numark CDN95 Dual MP3/CD Player - $1000
Numark HDCD1 Dual CD Player - $1500
Denon DJ DND9000 - $1300
Denon DJ DND4000 - $600
Denon DJ DNS3000 - $600
Denon DJ DN-D4500 - $600
Tascam CDX1700 - $700
Stanton C504 - $800
Denon DJ DN-D6000 Dual CD/MP3 Player - $900
Numark MP300 Dual MP3/CD Player - $500
Gemini MP3000X - $500
Vestax CDX 05 CD Player - $550
Denon DJ DNS1000 - $400

if you are looking for affordability then check out the denon dns1000 or the cdj-200 and don't even consider the Gemini (I don't even know why I even bothered putting them on).


Hey thanks a lot for that list! Why not Gemini MPX-30?? I am also looking for a bigger jog wheel for an ability to scratch...


Posted by Ste on Jul-23-2005 09:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Prism
Me!! What's a song search for? If you had them your mp3s on CDRW recorded as data at least a hundred of them you're never gonna have to change the CD!!


i suppose, the problem is the best cd decks atm IMO dont use mp3 - and the majority of clubs usually sport the cdj1000 so you would probably have to burn them to CD as wav if you ever had the desire or oppertunity to play out


Posted by spdandpwr on Jul-23-2005 14:51:

well considering that the pioneer and denon have a good reputation and cost exactly the same it would be logical to skip on them ill go check the features out on the gemini to see if has anything worthwhile


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