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Posted by rabbitjoker on Jun-06-2005 04:18:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
as far as i know, there is no network in canada supporting 3G yet? or?


Rogers supports EDGE.


Posted by malek on Jun-06-2005 04:20:

mobile windows > symbian os


a true revolution would that mobile carriers use each others' communications towers. And the only way of this happening is if the CRTC regulate this.

1-decrease costs
2-increases coverage
3-better services for users
4-less visual polution.


Posted by Pett on Jun-06-2005 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Irishaddict
I switched to Telus. Bell can go fuck themselves. Just like those shirtless monkeys at Guv.


awesome post


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jun-06-2005 11:52:

I have no idea who would support this in Canada, but I want a Samsung D500.



General Network GSM 900 / GSM 1800 / GSM 1900
Announced 2004, 4Q
Status Available
Size Dimensions 93.5 x 45.7 x 23.5 mm
Weight 99 g
Display Type TFT, 256K colors
Size 176 x 220 pixels
Ringtones Type Polyphonic (64 channels), MP3
Amount 45 preset
Customization Download, order now
Vibration Yes
Memory Phonebook 1000 x 12 fields, Photo call
Call records 20 dialed, 20 received, 20 missed calls
Card slot No
- 96 MB shared memory for photos, video, MMS, MP3 files
- 4 MB for Java
- 200 short messages
- 400 calendar events
Features GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots)
Data speed 32 - 48 kbps
Messaging SMS, EMS, MMS, Email
Clock Yes
Alarm Yes
Infrared port Yes
Games 3 + downloadable, order now
Colors Silver, Black
Camera 1.3 MP, 1280x1024 pixels, video, flash
- Bluetooth
- EDGE (in D500E version only)
- Java MIDP 2.0
- WAP 2.0
- MP3/MP4/AAC player
- T9
- SyncML
- Organizer
- Voice memo
- Built-in handsfree
- USB port
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 800 mAh
Stand-by Up to 300 h
Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min
Standard battery, Li-Ion 1000 mAh
Stand-by Up to 380 h
Talk time Up to 8 h


Posted by house_conXion on Jun-06-2005 13:31:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by VERTiG0
I have no idea who would support this in Canada, but I want a Samsung D500.



Fido and Rogers can support this phone since they run on SIM cards and these phone are usually unlocked when you buy them. The best place to buy phones like these is at Pacific Malls. Those Asians are geniuses when it comes to cell phones. If anyone's ever gone there and into the phone stores you'll know what I mean. Cale, a friend of mine has this phone and he's off the Fido network. For more phones go here

www.gsmarena.com
www.mobileburn.com


Posted by PartyHarlequin on Jun-06-2005 13:39:

I have Rogers service and Nokia 6800 (one of the first) I get service everywhere (including my cottage) and have no complaints. EVERYONE GO ROGERS!!!!

Triband GSM FTW


Posted by house_conXion on Jun-06-2005 13:39:

I'm with City Fido and honestly it's the best plan ever, I never have to worry about "going over my minutes" and shit like that, I just talk whenever, wherever 24hrs a day, 7 days a week. I use to rack up so much extra minutes on my old plans that I'd be paying through my teeth like that, $100-120 a month is alittle much. With this I pay roughly 60 bucks with taxes and everything and peace of mind. Plus the coverage in the city is awesome but yeah go outside and the phones dead but I hardly venture outside of the GTA.

This is the phone I wanna get when it comes out

K600


Posted by PartyHarlequin on Jun-06-2005 13:46:

Ahem, has anyone seen the Nokia 7280... I almost died... and I'm going out to buy one tonight. Goodbye 6800 hello 7280... This thing is uber sexy.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jun-06-2005 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by PartyHarlequin
Ahem, has anyone seen the Nokia 7280...


Holy shit.

Ah, I see how it works now. A spin wheel, like iPods. I imagine this one is mechanical like my 1st-gen iPod though?


Posted by PartyHarlequin on Jun-06-2005 14:51:

Who cares, it's the sexiest phone I've ever seen. I'm on a quest to collect the sexiest version of anything I intend to own


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jun-06-2005 14:54:

quote:
Originally posted by PartyHarlequin
Who cares, it's the sexiest phone I've ever seen. I'm on a quest to collect the sexiest version of anything I intend to own


So uh pics of girlfriend/wife please, thanks


How much does this phone cost? $500? $600?


Posted by PartyHarlequin on Jun-06-2005 16:41:

Flying solo atm. Broke up with psycho gf. I'm outta shawshank and loving it!!!!!
I worry though as there seems to be another one angling in for approach. But she's sooo much more normal and mega cute half japanese/italian. I wonder if I'm just still bitter from the last one, but oh well! Carpe Diem and all that stuff.

And if the phone costs $600 it's still worth it.


Posted by GrooveBuff on Jun-06-2005 16:52:

quote:
Originally posted by house_conXion
[QUOTE]Originally posted by VERTiG0
I have no idea who would support this in Canada, but I want a Samsung D500.



Fido and Rogers can support this phone since they run on SIM cards and these phone are usually unlocked when you buy them. The best place to buy phones like these is at Pacific Malls. Those Asians are geniuses when it comes to cell phones. If anyone's ever gone there and into the phone stores you'll know what I mean. Cale, a friend of mine has this phone and he's off the Fido network. For more phones go here

www.gsmarena.com
www.mobileburn.com


ya but I thought that ROGERS does not support 900 because their frequency is 850.


Posted by St_Andrew on Jun-06-2005 20:21:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Rogers supports EDGE.


oh okay, thats good, so whats the difference between that and 3g?


Posted by monishb on Jun-06-2005 21:00:

going to wait until nokias N90 comes out...

http://www.nokia.com/nseries/index....inside,main_n90


Technical Specifications:

Operating frequency
Dual mode WCDMA/GSM and triband GSM coverage on up to five continents (GSM 900/1800/1900 and WCDMA 2100 networks)
Automatic switching between bands and modes

Usage Modes
Imaging mode
Camera mode
Fold open mode
Fold closed mode


Dimensions
Volume: 126cc
Weight: 173g
Length: 112mm
Width (max): 51mm
Thickness (max): 24mm


Display and User Interface:

Active matrix 65,536 colour cover display (128 x 128 pixels)
2.1 inch active matrix 262,144 colour main display (352 x 416 pixels)
Automatic brightness control for main display
Five-way scroll key, two soft keys, application key, edit and clear keys, send and end keys, additional softkeys for landscape mode
Dedicated key for voice dialling and voice commands
Active standby screen
Side joystick
Dedicated key for image capture and video record

Imaging and Video
Two-way video call capability
Video sharing for one-way live video or video clip sharing within the voice call
2 megapixel camera (1600 x 1200 pixels) with autofocus 20x digital zoom
Integrated flash (operating range up to 1.5m)
Flash modes: on, off, automatic and anti red-eye
Video capturing in MP4 format (MPEG-4 video, AAC-LC audio) CIF resolution (352x288 pixels)
Advanced camera modes: still, sequence, video
Settings for brightness adjustment, image quality, self-timer, white balance settings and colour tones
Six possible capture scene settings including Scenery, Portrait, Night and Sports
Video and still image editors
Movie Director for automated video production
Image and video clip uploading to the web
Rotating gallery

Nokia XpressPrint Printing Solution

Print digital photos directly from the device:
Transfer photos directly to compatible printer or kiosk via Bluetooth wireless technology, MultiMediaCard (MMC) or to PictBridge-compliant printer via USB cable
Built-in application is quick and easy to use; no installation, no fuss
Find out more at www.nokia.com/xpressprint

RealPlayer Media Player

Download and play multimedia files (video and music)
Stream media files from compatible media portals
Full-screen video playback on the phone to view downloaded, streamed or recorded video clips in larger size
Played formats (decoding): MP3, AAC, Real Audio, WAV, Nokia Ring Tones, AMR, AMR-WB, AMR-NB, AU, MIDI, H.263, JPEG, JPEG2000, EXIF 2.2, GIF 87/89, PNG, BMP (W-BMP), MBM and MPEG-4

Memory Functions

Up to 31 MB of internal dynamic memory for contacts, text messages, multimedia messages, ringing tones, images, video clips, calendar notes, to-do list and applications
Expandable memory: 64 MB Reduced Size Dual Voltage (1.8/3V) MultiMediaCard (MMC)*
Hot swap slot for easy MMC card insertion and removal

Note: The built in MultiMediaCard (MMC) reader in the Nokia N90 functions on 1.8 Volt and therefore requires a dual voltage MMC which can support both 1.8V and 3.0V. Nokia branded MultiMediaCards (MMC) are dual voltage cards (sold separately).

*Please note that the memory capacity of the MultiMediaCard (MMC) in the sales package may vary depending on the market and/or your network operator/service provider.

Messaging

Convenient push email client with attachment support (view jpg, 3gp, MP3, .ppt, .doc, excel and .pdf files) and periodic polling functionality
Compatible with Nokia Wireless Keyboard (sold separately)
Multimedia messaging: combine image, video, text, and audio clip and send as MMS to a compatible phone or PC; use MMS to tell your story with a multi-slide presentation
Automatic resizing of your megapixel images to fit MMS (max. 300 KB attachment size depending on the network)
Text messaging: supports concatenated SMS, picture messaging, SMS distribution list
Predictive text input: support for all major languages in Europe and Asia-Pacific
Instant Messaging

Connectivity

Integrated Bluetooth wireless technology v.1.2
USB 2.0 full speed via Pop-Port� interface
Nokia PC Suite connectivity with USB and Bluetooth wireless technology
Local synchronisation of contacts and calendar to a compatible PC using compatible connection
Remote over-the-air synchronisation
Send and receive images, video clips, graphics, and business cards via Bluetooth wireless technology
Profiles with Bluetooth connectivity: Basic Printing Profile (BPP) using Image Print or Info Print applications, Human Interface Device Profile (HID) using Nokia Wireless Keyboard application

Browsing

WAP 2.0 XHTML/HTML multimode browser
Improved Web compatibility with support for HTML 4.01, including support for elements such as image maps, background images, and frames
Support for a subset of JavaScript 1.5, which includes the most commonly used functions found on the Internet
File upload over HTTP using standard HTML forms
Small screen rendering option including a faster page-up/page-down scrolling style
Full-screen mode, download progress bar, and adaptive history list
3GPP video streaming
OMA DRM 1.0 - including forward lock for content protection, combined delivery, separate delivery and superdistribution
Wallet: convenient online use and storage of your numbers and passwords
Offline mode for using imaging and productivity features in areas where the radio must be switched off

Data Transfer

WCDMA 2100 with simultaneous voice and packet data (PS max speed UL/DL= 128/384kbps, CS max speed 64kpbs)

EGPRS, class B, multislot class 10


Speech codecs: FR, EFR, WCDMA, and GSM AMR
Transfer data from one Series 60 phone to another

Call Management

Push to talk (PoC)
Contacts: advanced contacts database with support for multiple phone and email details per entry, also supports thumbnail pictures and groups
Speed dialling
Logs: keeps lists of your dialed, received, and missed calls
Automatic redial
Automatic answer (works with compatible headset or car kit only)
Supports Fixed Dialling Number, which allows calls only to predefined numbers
Conference call

Java Applications

Java� MIDP 2.0, CLDC 1.1 (Connected Limited Device Configuration (J2ME))
Over-the-air download of Java�-based applications and games

Other Applications

Personal Information Management (PIM)

Advanced Series 60 PIM features including calendar, contacts, to-do list, and PIM printing

Enhanced Voice Features

Speaker Independent Name Dialling (SIND)
Voice commands
Voice recorder
Integrated handsfree speaker

Digital Services

Java� and Symbian applications available from Nokia Software Market
Graphics, icons, animations, logos
Games: Possibility to download new games
Ringing tones: True Tones, polyphonic tones
Themes: Possibility to download new themes

Sales Package Contents

Nokia N90
64MB MultiMediaCard (MMC) MU-1*
Adapter for normal size MMC slots
Nokia Stereo Headset HDS-3 (HS-3 in APAC)
Nokia Battery BL-5B
Nokia Travel Charger AC-4
Adapter for Nokia ACP-12 charger
Nokia Connectivity Cable (USB) CA-53
CD-ROM containing software
User guide, Quick Start guide, and Add-on Application guide

* Please note different MultiMediaCard (MMC) configurations may be available depending on country or operator configuration

Power Management

Battery: Lithium Ion Battery 760mAh BL-5B
Talk Time: Up to 3 hrs*
Stand-by Time: Up to 12 days*


Posted by M�bius on Jun-06-2005 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
oh okay, thats good, so whats the difference between that and 3g?


A GSM network with EDGE/GPRS capabilites is often refered to as a 2.5g network. EDGE/GPRS is what basically gives your cell phone internet capabilities e-mail/web browsing etc.

3g refers to the next generation of standards, for GSM networks that means a migration to W-CDMA and for CDMA networks a migration to CDMA2000.

With 3g standards carriers hope to provide users with data rates of up to 2Mbps


Posted by rabbitjoker on Jun-06-2005 23:51:

Maybe when we get IPv6 all this mobile hardware will be IP devices.

Now that would be swanky!


Posted by malek on Jun-07-2005 04:16:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Maybe when we get IPv6 all this mobile hardware will be IP devices.

Now that would be swanky!



IPv6 infrastructure is already in place


Posted by rabbitjoker on Jun-07-2005 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
IPv6 infrastructure is already in place


I know that most apps have been ported to include IPv6 - but not many devices/providers use it.


Posted by malek on Jun-07-2005 04:30:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
I know that most apps have been ported to include IPv6 - but not many devices/providers use it.


they don't use it (or maybe they do but you don't know about it) but their routers and other switching equipments are ready.

you see you could be on an ipv6 network without knowing about it because your ipv4 packets are encapsulated in ipv6 packets between switching equipments


Posted by rabbitjoker on Jun-07-2005 04:38:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
you see you could be on an ipv6 network without knowing about it because your ipv4 packets are encapsulated in ipv6 packets between switching equipments


Sweet - very intersting. Danke.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jun-07-2005 04:39:

quote:
Originally posted by M�bius
A GSM network with EDGE/GPRS capabilites is often refered to as a 2.5g network. EDGE/GPRS is what basically gives your cell phone internet capabilities e-mail/web browsing etc.

3g refers to the next generation of standards, for GSM networks that means a migration to W-CDMA and for CDMA networks a migration to CDMA2000.

With 3g standards carriers hope to provide users with data rates of up to 2Mbps




now all they need are more affordable data transfer costs for the average end user!


Posted by rabbitjoker on Jun-07-2005 04:50:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
now all they need are more affordable data transfer costs for the average end user!


$100 / month for mobile EDGE? Already sounds affordable to me.


Posted by malek on Jun-07-2005 05:00:

GPRS on Fido is 30$ per MEG


Posted by tvmann on Jun-07-2005 05:54:

I had a Telus cell and Telus landline until recently when the cell contract expired. Telus offered me as a good customer a rather lousy renewal contract, so I cancelled both the Telus cell and landline! And got a $25 Fido contract and Nokia cell, it's been working fine.

I have the unlimited incoming calls package with free evenings/weekends which suits me very well. The Telus cell coverage was a little better in my area but for my daily activities Fido is good, and will be better when Rogers integrates their GSM network with Fido's.

I had the Fido Sony T610 phone with camera, etc, kinda slick but the damn thing locked up on me and I had to remove the battery to fix it - that to me is unacceptable, common problem with that phone apparently, so I switched to the the very basic Nokia 3100 phone which is really better for the standard phone activities.

I'm hoping in a few years VOIP will be really cheap like $5 a month.

So right now I have:
- cell phone for normal communications (Fido GSM)
- cable internet (but no cable TV) (Shaw)
- satellite TV (ExpressVu)

All cool stuff and 30 years ago nobody would have thought we would have these technologies.

BTW Iv'e made good money investing in the companies that create these technologies, Nokia, Qualcomm, Dish Network, Intel, Microsoft, Dell, Apple etc etc. What's going to be the next big thing that can make us rich?


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