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Originally posted by Omega_Blue come on now guys... but this comment Wow. you are soooo way off base here. would you like a pat on the back or something? maybe a cookie?

i often enjoy caffeine with a good mix.

i save money by not drinking and doing drugs, i enjoy the music just fine without them, so more money for me

Im in it for both

meh.

There are people of both types. Some just like to go out and get totally fucked using drugs or alcohol/pick up a girl and get fucked that way. Also, there's people who go for the music.

Then there's people who want both. What's so hard to understand about that?

Has it ever occured to you that drugs enhance the music?

Because...if you had ever rolled to a good DJ...you would not have posted such a retarded thread.

I have never been to a trance event anything but sober and drug free and have loved every second of it. Gino and hip-hop clubs are another story, especially hip-hop, where I definitely don't go for the music or dancing ability, so therefore I need to be drunk.

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Originally posted by Clovis86 Has it ever occured to you that drugs enhance the music? Because...if you had ever rolled to a good DJ...you would not have posted such a retarded thread.

Ignorant comment considering I saw Dave Seaman, Josh Gabriel, Ferry Corsten, Grayarea and Luke Chable after I dropped.

i hear "EDM" when I wake up, when I drive to work, while I'm at work, on the ride home from work, and I'm sober as a Judge during the above. I've dropped E at clubs more times then I'd care to say, been drunk off my ass too, but no matter what state of mind, it sounds just as good.

So to make a long story short (too late), the general clubber may "listen" to EDM, but they don't "hear" EDM. if you've seen White Man Can't Jump you know what I'm saying

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Originally posted by Blue. Ignorant comment considering I saw Dave Seaman, Josh Gabriel, Ferry Corsten, Grayarea and Luke Chable after I dropped.

So you're putting down people who enjoy the music with the added enhancment of drugs despite the fact you yourself have rolled?

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Originally posted by Clovis86 So you're putting down people who enjoy the music with the added enhancment of drugs despite the fact you yourself have rolled?

Any other shit you'd like to make up that I didn't say or is that it? I just want to know what to expect in the future.

I'm going to offer a slightly different perspective.
In my experience there are 3 categories of people in relation with the whole Edm/Drugs/clubbing issue :

a) Those who go to clubs/raves/gatherings simply to get high on e/crack/marijuana or any other substance simply because they are far easily available as opposed to getting it from their regular source. In addition, being united with hundreds of like-minded people further enhances that experience and makes it quite unique. These people simply say that EDM music is ONLY worth listening to when high. Thefore, drugs come first, music comes later as icing on the cake and a potential catalyst to enhance their experience. More often than not, they are substance abusers of various degrees.

b)People who love the music and do not belive that drugs are a necessity to enjoy the music. These people are content with alcohol and/or cigarettes and with the company of their friends. This group of people refrain from drugs in general. I fall into this category.

c)People who are going for just the music/dancing/fooling around. They may be in the company of others who fall into the first and second category but are not intimidated in any way if offered a pill/joint/drink or cigarette. They are content with the music.

d)People who love the music and are substance users just for the fun of it. They may or may not be substance abusers.

On a more personal level, my friends fall into all 3 categories.
I am a clubber and a DJ but I have never felt the need to depend on any substance to make my clubbing/DJ'ing experience a better one.

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Originally posted by varun I'm going to offer a slightly different perspective. In my experience there are 3 categories of people in relation with the whole Edm/Drugs/clubbing issue : a) Those who go to clubs/raves/gatherings simply to get high on e/crack/marijuana or any other substance simply because they are far easily available as opposed to getting it from their regular source. In addition, being united with hundreds of like-minded people further enhances that experience and makes it quite unique. These people simply say that EDM music is ONLY worth listening to when high. Thefore, drugs come first, music comes later as icing on the cake and a potential catalyst to enhance their experience. More often than not, they are substance abusers of various degrees. b)People who love the music and do not belive that drugs are a necessity to enjoy the music. These people are content with alcohol and/or cigarettes and with the company of their friends. This group of people refrain from drugs in general. I fall into this category. c)People who are going for just the music/dancing/fooling around. They may be in the company of others who fall into the first and second category but are not intimidated in any way if offered a pill/joint/drink or cigarette. They are content with the music. On a more personal level, my friends fall into all 3 categories. I am a clubber and a DJ but I have never felt the need to depend on any substance to make my clubbing/DJ'ing experience a better one.

Where is the option for those who love EDM but use substances at clubs just because they are fun?

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT Where is the option for those who love EDM but use substances at clubs just because they are fun?

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d)People who love the music and are substance users just for the fun of it. They may or may not be substance abusers.

don't you think some of these people that go "just for the drugs" would go somewhere else if they could....drugs have been around for hundreds of years-40 years ago people were triping out to rock and roll....for some people the club scene is an easy place to do this..if it wern't this it would be somewhere else...

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Originally posted by MR STROKE don't you think some of these people that go "just for the drugs" would go somewhere else if they could....drugs have been around for hundreds of years-40 years ago people were triping out to rock and roll....for some people the club scene is an easy place to do this..if it wern't this it would be somewhere else...

no because it "enhances" the music so they go to a place that has the most expensive stereo, logicaly.

why not go do it somewhere else? a cop can be 100% sure that you're high and he can't do shit about it unless you admit it or he gets you for being fucked up in public.

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Originally posted by roblovestrance I think that if you need to take something like alcohol or E to enjoy EDM,you are not a true fan of this type of music.Im proud to say that I have NEVER used any type of drugs to enjoy EDM.I have tried alcohol but it just isnt my thing.I always have a good time when i go out and this is without the use of substances of any kind. I WAS BORN TO PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have no idea what you're talking about true trance fan.

Anyone whose favorite genre is dutch trance is not a true EDM fan.

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