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Posted by Clarky Cats on May-01-2005 03:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Electrophile
Proteus is a damn hard DJ. As for producers I would say that Mark Norman, Sam Sharp, and Ron van den Beuken have hard edges to them but keep melody in mind Top producers IMO.

Any chance you could post some more examples of your favorite producers (hard or not) or track examples/labels please? I like your taste so far.

Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on May-01-2005 05:11:

quote:
Originally posted by wink
George Acosta?? You kidding me? Acosta is anything but a hardtrance dj. Look at his freakin tracklists.. made up of ayla'n atb for godsake.

lol he used ayla and atb back in the late 90s for the awake album and maybe something else but thats it
the times ive gone to see him at clubs since the late 90s he plays nothing but hard and epic trance.He even made the the cd that got me into hard trance "release AM edition"

all the good hard trance DJs have already been mentioned, my faves being Wag,Scot Project,Kai Tracid, DuMonde, K90,ASYS
Ferry drops some hard tunes at times but I woudnt put in this list

Posted by kr00t0n on May-01-2005 06:04:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
If so, he's having a laugh. Scot Project isn't anywhere near as hard as any of those.

I'm quite a fan of BK, Sentience and Reynolds, and whilst they are FASTER than Scot Project, stuff like his remixes of Arome - Hand's Up and Yoji Biomehanika - Ding A Ling are far harder than most of their stuff imo

Posted by MistyCalTrance on May-01-2005 06:07:

HAHAHA...ha..he. Thats so dumb it made me laugh

quote:
Originally posted by wink
The last thing he dropped that was hard were your grandmas poopey ol panties. peeez.

Posted by Icesotope on May-01-2005 08:22:

this is getting no where...

Hardtrance is one of the sub-genre that is so damn hard to diffrenshape. It can be releated to Hardhouse, HardNRG (Hard-Dance), Hardstyle or even Happy Hardcore. Examples....

Hardhouse?
- Lee Haslam
- Organ Donors
- Phil Reynolds
- Nick Sentience
- Joff Roach & Mac Zimms
- Jon Doe
- BK

Hardstyle?
- Lorenzo De Preti
- Cristiano Giusberti
- Gary D
- Trance Generators
- Yoji Biomehanika
- DJ Tom-X
- DJ Shredda
- Moratto & DJ Ricci

Hard-Dance?
- Manian Reuter
- Slobodan Petrovic
- Sven Gruhnwald
- Dumonde
- Cosmic Gate
- Sequenza
- Alphaverb
- Frank Zenker
- Uberdruck
- DJ Taylor & Flow
- Hyptraxx & Sean Dexter
- Michael Hennes & Kai Winter
- Wag & Y.O.M.C.

Hardcore?
- Sebastian Hoff
- Carbon Based
- Shanty, Tazz & Concept
- Dougal
- Scott Brown
- Neophyte
- Rexanthony
- Xavi Metralla
- Ramirez

Techno?
- Mauro Picotto
- Dave The Drummer
- Choci & Geezer
- Andreas Kr�mer
- Thomas Pogadl
- Chris Liberator & Julian Sandell

Hardtrance Pioneers
- Ramon Zenker
- John 00 Fleming
- Cryptic Diffusion
- Awex
- DJ Crack
- Cocooma
- Resistance D
- The Jeyenne
- DJ Hooligan
- Casseopaya
- Legend B
- Robotnico
- Martin Eyerer
- Meteor Seven
- Yves Deruyter

Posted by JakeC on May-01-2005 09:09:

all the hard house producers you mentioned are Hard Trance.

around 2000 they all started mixing the trance melodies of 1999 with the new hard house beats, one of the first Hard Trance tracks was Equinox - Immure.

Posted by kr00t0n on May-01-2005 10:20:

quote:
Originally posted by JakeC
all the hard house producers you mentioned are Hard Trance.

around 2000 they all started mixing the trance melodies of 1999 with the new hard house beats, one of the first Hard Trance tracks was Equinox - Immure.

And what a fucking choon it is!!!

One of my fav 12"s

Posted by JakeC on May-01-2005 10:56:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
And what a fucking choon it is!!!

One of my fav 12"s

blinder of a tune

Posted by Absolut_Vodka on May-01-2005 11:16:

quote:
Originally posted by VietKid
ferry Corsten is sick imo!!!

yeah corsten makes me sick too

Posted by nwopper on May-01-2005 12:03:

Heared Kai tonight...daaaamnnn...that was insane!
He tore down the place. I am really still amazed. And with that he played Derb - DFC (Scot Project rmx) and that is one awesome track. If I can get my hands on that vinyl I will put it under my pillow every night so I can sleep comfortable

Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-01-2005 13:13:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
I'm quite a fan of BK, Sentience and Reynolds, and whilst they are FASTER than Scot Project, stuff like his remixes of Arome - Hand's Up and Yoji Biomehanika - Ding A Ling are far harder than most of their stuff imo

The simple fact that so much of any Scot Project production is just a massive breakdown with no beat nullifies much of the hardness any of his tracks have.

By the way, I didn't mention Nick Sentience, but:

BK & Dave Randall- Ascension
Mark Richardson & Phil Reynolds- Vinyl Addiction

Are harder than any Scot Project production. I'll concede that K90 isn't as hard as Scot Project, as he's always a bit fluffy, but at least his tracks don't suck all their energy away into a shitty overblown breakdown.

Posted by Cosmic on May-01-2005 14:31:

Some names I haven't seen in this thread:

NU-NRG
Alphazone
JK Walker
Derb
Warmduscher
Dave Joy
Hennes&Cold
The Green Martian

Posted by kr00t0n on May-01-2005 14:39:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The simple fact that so much of any Scot Project production is just a massive breakdown with no beat nullifies much of the hardness any of his tracks have.

By the way, I didn't mention Nick Sentience, but:

BK & Dave Randall- Ascension
Mark Richardson & Phil Reynolds- Vinyl Addiction

Are harder than any Scot Project production. I'll concede that K90 isn't as hard as Scot Project, as he's always a bit fluffy, but at least his tracks don't suck all their energy away into a shitty overblown breakdown.

I take it then you arent a huge fan of euphoric trance then?

Posted by Ygrene on May-01-2005 14:46:

quote:
Originally posted by nwopper
And with that he played Derb - DFC (Scot Project rmx) and that is one awesome track. If I can get my hands on that vinyl I will put it under my pillow every night so I can sleep comfortable

/me brandishes my 3 Vinyl Set of 'Derbattack' at nwopper (Juno has this in stock right now!!)

MUHAHAHAHAHA!

And also, I heard Mauro Picotto - Pulsar 2K5 (Tiesto Remix) live for the first time last night..........HO.......LY........CRA.....P!!!!!

Not necessarily bangin' hardtrance but WOW did it sound good.

Posted by auranaut on May-01-2005 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
I take it then you arent a huge fan of euphoric trance then?

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Euphoric trance is not a genre. I like The Auranaut - Yo Yo, which is euphoric to me. Other people like Rank 1 - Airwave. They can both be euphoric, yet have no similarities.

Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-01-2005 15:10:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
I take it then you arent a huge fan of euphoric trance then?

This is a hard trance discussion. I don't see how something can be hard if a good section of it is totally ambient.

Posted by JakeC on May-01-2005 15:18:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
This is a hard trance discussion. I don't see how something can be hard if a good section of it is totally ambient.

WHAM BAM THANK YOU MAM!

Posted by VietKid on May-02-2005 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by JakeC
Guyver and anything on tidy two.....

OMG I SPUNK

isn't that hard-dance no too sure?

Posted by VietKid on May-02-2005 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Search hard trance. The search button is in the top right hand corner.

And just in case anyone was serious- Ferry Corsten isn't remotely hard trance.

done so already.

ferry is not hard trance, but still he has some banging basslines.

Posted by VietKid on May-02-2005 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_lane
Cosmic Gate
DJ Isaac

I used to be able to think of a lot more, but just find a "The Prophet" tracklist.

No hardstyle please! Cosmic Gate kinda cheesy, but they are getting a little techier lately and i like that.

Posted by VietKid on May-02-2005 20:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
There are no quality hard trance producers today. They're an extinct breed.

Except for E-Craig and Sam Sharp, but they're closer to tech-trance than hard.

Marcos is quality IMO, and Max savietto.

Posted by JakeC on May-02-2005 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by VietKid
isn't that hard-dance no too sure?

no.

The hard dance pigeon hole has only been used the pst couple of years were as hard trance which tidy two is famous for has been around longer.

Posted by RickyM on May-02-2005 22:39:

Nobody mentioned Walt?

His remix of Ligaya is very hard.
The Green Martian makes some pretty cool hard trance too...well if it is proper hard trance, I don't know.

Posted by Ygrene on May-03-2005 01:40:

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
Nobody mentioned Walt?

Walt - Silver Machine!

Green Martian - Ladies & Gentlemen!

Here's one I don't think has been mentioned yet:

Mass In Orbit

Mass In Orbit - Power Is Your Mind

DJ Loop - Energie (Mass In Orbit Remix)

Fargo - Can't Control (Mass In Orbit Remix)

Pretty good bangin' tunes IMO

Posted by gorex on May-04-2005 01:02:

did anyone said SHOKK or what

top of the top IMO :
scott project
max savietto
marcel woods

edit: the thread made rediscover green martian - industry

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