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Originally posted by Nayil i dont wanna hear abt any opinions made by a person whod call ferry a trance killer.

well. it might very well be true that ferry killed trance. don't get me wrong here though. i'm a fan of some ferry stuff myself, i got all gouryella records for example. but thats not the point. i didnt buy them because i wanna go to trance, because, honestly, they DONT PUT ME in a state of trance. i just listen to them because i think they're nice piece of music, thats it. the trance made back in the days, before ferrys days, was mainly made for another reason, to actually put the listener into trance. it was more repetative and hypnotic. and you can hardly say that about todays formulatic, cliched stuff. you can still enjoy it ofcourse, but to call it trance is wrong. and you can't deny that ferry had a huge impact on the entire scene in the laste 90's, which lead to lots and lots of similar stuff being produced and eventually the "real" trance died out.

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Originally posted by n0bben which lead to lots and lots of similar stuff being produced and eventually the "real" trance died out.

so ur saying the real trance is no more present ? could u clear me on that

did you even read my post?

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Originally posted by n0bben did you even read my post?

LMAO....... goodnight dude

well, you're obviously a complete fucktard, so i didnt expect you to learn something in the first place.

not from sumone who kisses ishkurs arse

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Originally posted by Nayil not from sumone who kisses ishkurs arse

i said he was 100% correct on THAT point. does that mean i agree on everything he sais? no. dammit, you're even dumber than i first thought.

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Originally posted by n0bben i said he was 100% correct on THAT point. does that mean i agree on everything he sais? no. dammit, you're even dumber than i first thought.

u nicely said ferry killed "the real" trance ....i dont give a flying f on what u think

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Originally posted by Nayil not from sumone who kisses ishkurs arse

wtf. So what if he has the same opinion as Ishkur? So what if they have the same opinion on EVERYTHING? It doesn't matter. Heck, I had alot of thoughts and opinions that matched with Ishkur's even before I came across his guide to EDM, and then when I found it I was like "hey, someone else has the same opinion as I".

And it's true, "real trance" is pretty much dead, much thanks to Tiesto and Ferry in the late 90s. Good or bad, that's up to you to decide. Fact is though, trance has become overly pussified and poppy, and I don't see anyone disproving that. Personally I prefer progressive trance from 96-00, I don't care much for classic/acid trance.

Neither FC nor Tiesto killed trance. If you want to blame someone for popularising big melodies blame Robert Miles and if you want to blame someone for making trance "mainstream"... blame Robert Miles. As for the monster breakdowns, DJ fucking Scot Project was raping them back when Ferry was best known as Moonman.

ugh

I havent listened to ISOS4 yet so I will just say comments on ASOST2005.

CD 2
I dont enjoy the first 6 songs all that much. Once Arcadia drops in I really start to enjoy this CD all the way until eye wall - bad deal. I love the Blank and Jones tune. But for the most part those 9 tracks have an interesting energy to them with the combination of their basslines that I enjoy.

CD 1
I enjoy this cd when I want something to sing along with. The first 4 songs are all vocal tunes that are very singable. I think the mix from first time to I know you're gone sounds awesome and almost like the two ladies are in the same room recording the songs back to back. My favorite track of these two cds is right after shivers(which i dont like that much) Enmass - Beyond Horizon.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J As for the monster breakdowns, DJ fucking Scot Project was raping them back when Ferry was best known as Moonman.

That Scot....can't do anything good nowadays....

And about n0bben's post about Ferry killing trance. I think it's weird to pinpoint Ferry out of it all as 'the killer of trance', but I do think n0bben is right in the rest of his post.

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Originally posted by weymouth I havent listened to ISOS4 yet so I will just say comments on ASOST2005. CD 2 I dont enjoy the first 6 songs all that much. Once Arcadia drops in I really start to enjoy this CD all the way until eye wall - bad deal. I love the Blank and Jones tune. But for the most part those 9 tracks have an interesting energy to them with the combination of their basslines that I enjoy. CD 1 I enjoy this cd when I want something to sing along with. The first 4 songs are all vocal tunes that are very singable. I think the mix from first time to I know you're gone sounds awesome and almost like the two ladies are in the same room recording the songs back to back. My favorite track of these two cds is right after shivers(which i dont like that much) Enmass - Beyond Horizon.

I think the Enmass song is the worst in the whole CD

ISOS 4 definately

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Originally posted by n0bben i said he was 100% correct on THAT point. does that mean i agree on everything he sais? no. dammit, you're even dumber than i first thought.

umm...actually ishkur came here and said he really blamed oakenfold, and that the ferry corsten thing in his guide was just a joke to really rile up trancecrackers.

gosh and i thought that trance or "trance" (whatever u like) was the only music that united people hehe...back on subject

i have both of those cds...and i like both of them too, although state of trance only cd 1 is good, i didnt pay too much attantion to cd2 it somehow didnt get to me.. as for ISOS4 it is good i thought that it was going to be worse to tell the truth..i dont know maybe i just wanted to hear something new..im getting tired of those all traxs played over and over again..

auranuat: why do you even post here man?

you dont like the trance now, you dont like the trance back in 2001 and 2001. You dont like trance period and have proven so time and time again by your stupid negative statements.

No wonder you got banned many times before, your a complete loser

auranuat: why do you even post here man?

you dont like the trance now, you dont like the trance back in 2001 and 2001. You dont like trance period and have proven so time and time again by your stupid negative statements.

No wonder you got banned many times before, your a complete loser

they both suck equally

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Originally posted by dartrance auranuat: why do you even post here man? you dont like the trance now, you dont like the trance back in 2001 and 2001. You dont like trance period and have proven so time and time again by your stupid negative statements. No wonder you got banned many times before, your a complete loser

"Negative comments"... you've got to be fucking kidding me. It's my opinion. Oh, and if I didn't like trance, why is my name Auranaut?

I liked Ory better

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Originally posted by nwopper I liked Ory better

Have I changed?

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Originally posted by Aiwendil umm...actually ishkur came here and said he really blamed oakenfold, and that the ferry corsten thing in his guide was just a joke to really rile up trancecrackers.

hmm.. the point i was refering to in that quote, was ishkurs definition of "progressive", which i agree totally with, whether he's serious or not.

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Originally posted by n0bben hmm.. the point i was refering to in that quote, was ishkurs definition of "progressive", which i agree totally with, either he's serious or not.

oh my bad...i agree too...but only because he gave a serious explanation outside of his guide.

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