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Posted by Elior on May-16-2005 18:42:

Well, i'll have to disturb your intresting conversation with some "news".

Yakubu is pretty much agreed to move from Portsmouth to Middlesbrough, he will move for �6.5m. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headli...=333580&cc=5739)

Recing Santander's Yossi Benayoun is being chased by Deprotivo La Coruna, Porthsmouth and Tottenham...


Posted by noikeee on May-16-2005 19:00:

FC Porto:
-> After the confirmation of Maniche and Costinha going to Dinamo Moscow, greek right back Giourkas Seitaridis is also said to be wanted by the russians, and the deal is rumoured to be announced wednesday.
-> Already confirmed are the bids for argentinian players Lucho Gonzalez (left winger/centre midfielder) and Lisandro Lopez (striker).
-> Boavista players Nelson and Diogo Valente, two of the biggest revelations in this years' league are linked with Porto as well. The first is seen as the replacement for Seitaridis, the second could be another option for the left wing since Porto have about none for that at the moment.
-> Sevilla has been interested in striker Luis Fabiano who has been completely disappointing this season, thanks to low confidence and bad luck especially the kidnapping of his mother.
-> Benni McCarthy has been rumoured to be wanted by Jos� Mourinho in Chelsea. Personally i think this is complete bullshit - he's not talented enough, plus stupidly temperamental.
-> AZ Alkmaar manager Co Adriaanse is rumoured to be Porto's manager for next season. This would be the 4th manager after Mourinho left a year ago.
-> Finally Benfica's central defender Ricardo Rocha has been rumoured to move to Porto, as well as the croatian forward Tomislav Sokota who has been playing in the third division in Benfica's B team.

Also from the portuguese league:
-> Another huge revelation from this season, Braga's midfielder Jo�o Alves has been linked with Chelski! I wouldn't be too surprised with it but i don't think he's got what it takes to suceed at the top european level.
-> Benfica's manager Giovanni Trapattoni has said he may move to an italian Serie B club (?!) after the eventual league and portuguese cup titles.


Posted by Michael19 on May-16-2005 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
Ever heard of competition for places ? The idea behind having 2 world class players for every position (which is what the Chelsea squad is based on) is so that players train hard to compete for places. The chelsea back four is not set in stone. Yes, Carrvaliho was bought for a heft price (but that's only because he was sold to Chelsea - he's not actually worth that much).


Gallas will stay at Chelsea because next year he will be in the CB position with Terry. Carravalho will also be there, rotated into the squad as Chelsea will be competeting at all levels. Gallas has stated he will not play LB forever, but he's still done a good job at that position this season. Jose will keep him because he realizes just how versitile Gallas is.



Gallas wont accept a rotation position of 1 game in 5, or the carling cup matches. It isnt up to jose to keep him, he really doesnt have any say in the matter.


quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
Gallas isn't leaving Chelsea anytime soon, and next season he'll be playing alongside Terry in the heart of the defense backfour.

Oh...and your football sources suck !


no he wont, as Mercury has pointed out carrvaliho is his first choice. He bought him, he managed him at porto. He will show favourtism to him for those reasons.


Posted by InterMilan31 on May-16-2005 21:56:

paranoik- Trap to Roma if he does decide to come back to Italy.


Posted by Kytracid on May-17-2005 06:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Mercury20
it's so obvious that you don't know what the fuck your talking about, and yet you keep repeating the same thing.

the jokes on you buddy!
so quit talkin' shit.
Mourinho won the CL with Carvalho, and trusts/respects him like he does few others. in fact, if it wasn't for Carvalho and his awesome wotk at Porto over the last few years, Mourinho probably wouldn't be where he is today.


Dude, shut the fuck up. I can tell you're portugese so I know dick sucking probably comes natural to you, but please - stop making stupid statemets like "Carvalho and his awesome work at Porto made Mourinho the coach he is". Think about it for a few minutes and you'll realize how moronic you sound. One player having the season of his life doesn't suddenly turn a medicore coach into a winner. Jose has always been a good tactican, and that Porto side which won the CL had lots of other talented players.

quote:

of course with all the games they play in a season, both Huth and Gallas would get time in the CB position to give Tery/Carvalho a break, but they wouldn't be cosidered the "starters".
now whether Gallas believes that getting more playing time is such an issue that he wants to switch clubs over it is a very personal decision for him.


Ricardo hasn't had a great season in England. Just because Chelsea have won the league doesn't mean he's been a success in the back four. Terry has been miles above Ricardo, and there have been matches when Carvalho's last minute lunges and thuggery in the box have gone unnoticed by the officials. I'm not saying he's a bad player...but I believe Jose realizes that with Huth being so inexperienced (as was shown in that CL game against Bayern) he needs a versitle defender like Gallas. I'm not sure what Jose's first team lineup will look like, but i believe he will not sell Gallas, and will find a place for him in the squad that the player himself is comfortable with.


Posted by raveed on May-17-2005 06:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
Dude, shut the fuck up. I can tell you're portugese so I know dick sucking probably comes natural to you, but please - stop making stupid statemets like "Carvalho and his awesome work at Porto made Mourinho the coach he is". Think about it for a few minutes and you'll realize how moronic you sound. One player having the season of his life doesn't suddenly turn a medicore coach into a winner. Jose has always been a good tactican, and that Porto side which won the CL had lots of other talented players.



Ricardo hasn't had a great season in England. Just because Chelsea have won the league doesn't mean he's been a success in the back four. Terry has been miles above Ricardo, and there have been matches when Carvalho's last minute lunges and thuggery in the box have gone unnoticed by the officials. I'm not saying he's a bad player...but I believe Jose realizes that with Huth being so inexperienced (as was shown in that CL game against Bayern) he needs a versitle defender like Gallas. I'm not sure what Jose's first team lineup will look like, but i believe he will not sell Gallas, and will find a place for him in the squad that the player himself is comfortable with.


he can buy a defender better than carvalho with the money he has but gallas with his versatility is hard to replace ... he was always the first player id buy in championship manager


Posted by Mercury20 on May-17-2005 08:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
a lot more mindless drivel.


haha, dude you're certainly allowed to have your own opinions, but unfortunatly you can't have your own facts.

there's only one set of those, and sorry but you're missing the boat on this one.

i won't dignify your crap anymore by responding to it, but it is pretty funny though so by all means carry on.

i'm sure you'll continue to call me names and spin interesting stories for everyone to roll their eyes to. i would expect nothing less.
i guess we can all look back once next season starts and get confirmation as to which one of us was just talking out their ass.



wow, you must be a genius, with being able to tell what nationality i am and all.
maybe it's 'cuz of that little flag over there eh sparky?
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Posted by Kytracid on May-17-2005 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Mercury20
haha, dude you're certainly allowed to have your own opinions, but unfortunatly you can't have your own facts.

there's only one set of those, and sorry but you're missing the boat on this one.

i won't dignify your crap anymore by responding to it, but it is pretty funny though so by all means carry on.

i'm sure you'll continue to call me names and spin interesting stories for everyone to roll their eyes to. i would expect nothing less.
i guess we can all look back once next season starts and get confirmation as to which one of us was just talking out their ass.



wow, you must be a genius, with being able to tell what nationality i am and all.
maybe it's 'cuz of that little flag over there eh sparky?
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How am I missing the boat ? Are you Jose's girlfriend that you can state with absolute conviction that Gallas is being sold ? I mean, lets face it, we are all expressing an opinion here. But you're the one who came out and challenged my knowledge on the subject. So lets hear it...where are these so called facts you claim to have that Gallas is being sold ? Jose has stated he wants two international calibre players for EVERY position in the squad. Currently Chelski have Gallas, Terry, Carrvalho and Huth as CB. Huth has barely played 10-15 games this season and is clearly not yet experienced enough. That only leaves 3 seasoned players for 2 critical positions. If Jose is as smart as he thinks he is, allowing Gallas to leave will be a huge mistake as he's a proven defender at all levels of the game and has been a Chelsea player for over 5 seasons and so is established to the pace and rigor of EPL football.

Now genius...what do you have, besides the gossip mill to substantiate your claim that Gallas is leaving ? Yeah, he's unhappy at being used as a LB. But has he come out and asked for a transfer ? Pull the cock out of your ass and think about it for a second. Chelsea are champions, and probably one of the richest clubs in the world right now. If you think Gallas is leaving just because he doesn't want to play on the left side -- then you're even dumber then I thought.

His statement was a warning so that Jose doesn't keep him in that position forever. Ask any Chelsea supporter about Gallas and they will tell you that he is just as good as Carrvalho...i don't expect you to agree, what with that little green and red flag by your name. But that's the truth.

At this point determining where Jose will use Gallas next season is an exercise in conjecture. Nobody knows who will be brought in, and who will be shipped out. I'd be very suprised if Gallas is transfered simply because Chelsea need his versatility and experience in the back.


Posted by gatecrasher on May-17-2005 16:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_GtR
barca will be really hot next season....


Their defence is bollicks Chelsea tore them to shreds, have we not learnt anything for Real Madrid all the stars in the world r great but if u cant defend u wont win the Champions League!!!


Posted by noikeee on May-17-2005 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
paranoik- Trap to Roma if he does decide to come back to Italy.


well that wouldn't surprise me, he did say Serie B what about Parma?

About Carvalho, although i'm another biased guy, i believe he didn't start the season very well but ended the season playing quite good. He did have the season of his life in 03/04 with Porto but it could be said Mourinho is in part responsible for that, after all he has turned several players from average to above-average. In Porto: Ricardo Carvalho, Deco, Derlei, Paulo Ferreira, Nuno Valente. In Chelsea: Gudjhohnsen, Joe Cole.

About Gallas staying or leaving Chelsea, i've got no idea what so ever.


Posted by Michael19 on May-17-2005 18:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
If Jose is as smart as he thinks he is, allowing Gallas to leave will be a huge mistake as he's a proven defender at all levels of the game and has been a Chelsea player for over 5 seasons and so is established to the pace and rigor of EPL football.



its not a question of allowing, jose doesnt have a choice in the matter really. Unless he plays him a CB ahead of ricardo which i wont happen.


quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
Now genius...what do you have, besides the gossip mill to substantiate your claim that Gallas is leaving ? Yeah, he's unhappy at being used as a LB. But has he come out and asked for a transfer ? Pull the cock out of your ass and think about it for a second. Chelsea are champions, and probably one of the richest clubs in the world right now. If you think Gallas is leaving just because he doesn't want to play on the left side -- then you're even dumber then I thought.



Chelsea being champions means shit. MOst major european side would want to sign him. He wont stay at chelsea as a sub because they are champions

The link is fairly clear, he wont play at left back. I dont think he will play at RB either.

http://skysports.planetfootball.com...l=Football_Home


Posted by Kytracid on May-17-2005 19:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael19
its not a question of allowing, jose doesnt have a choice in the matter really. Unless he plays him a CB ahead of ricardo which i wont happen.





Chelsea being champions means shit. MOst major european side would want to sign him. He wont stay at chelsea as a sub because they are champions

The link is fairly clear, he wont play at left back. I dont think he will play at RB either.

http://skysports.planetfootball.com...l=Football_Home


Actually, Jose does have a choice in the matter. Gallas is under contract to play for Chelsea. The contract doesn't say which position he plays at, that's the coaches decision. Gallas has been FORCED to play at LB due to injuries. I'm sure Jose will talk to him about his future at the club over the summer and outline what his plan for using him along with the other three CB's is going to be.

The story has been blown out of proportion because Gallas feels he is more productive in the centre then at left back, which is true. He lacks the attacking instincts that a left back playing at Chelsea needs. He's also not a true left footed player, which makes crossing and overlapping runs more difficult. I'm sure most of his comments are a result of frustration, not because he wants to leave Chelsea.

I read that story a few weeks back...and i think more then anything else it was meant as a warning shot to Jose that Gallas was not going to play the role of LB forever. Since then, Jose has already stated that Chelsea need a LB...so i doubt you will see Gallas in that position next season. Personally, i think he will still play CB, and rotate with Carrvalho. The reason is simple...while both players are excellent. I don't think there is much that seperates them in terms of class. I don't expect the 'expert' portuguese contingent on this board to agree...but if you're an objective fan, you'll know what i mean.


Posted by Kytracid on May-17-2005 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael19
Chelsea being champions means shit. MOst major european side would want to sign him. He wont stay at chelsea as a sub because they are champions

The link is fairly clear, he wont play at left back. I dont think he will play at RB either.

http://skysports.planetfootball.com...l=Football_Home


Oh yeah ? Then tell me why Carlo Cudacini in all likely hood is going to sign a long term contract despite the fact that he's only played a handful of games for Chelsea this year. Carlo is a also a world class player who is being sought after by at least two major EPL teams...from the looks of it, he's fairly happy warming the Chelski bench. Maybe....and i might be reaching here...but here goes...

Maybe...Money might have something to do with why Chelsea are able to attract top quality talent and keep them happy on the bench.

I'm not saying that will happen with Gallas, but if you honestly think that being in a Championship winning side which is only going to get stronger next year doesn't mean shit then buddy... you don't really understand what it means to be a part of a something special. Gallas has been at Chelsea for a few seasons now. He's settled. He's made sacrifices for the team and is respected by the fans and coach alike. To put it bluntly...jose and Chelsea would have to be foolish to let him just leave, and I just don't see that happening.


Posted by Michael19 on May-17-2005 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
Actually, Jose does have a choice in the matter. Gallas is under contract to play for Chelsea. The contract doesn't say which position he plays at, that's the coaches decision. Gallas has been FORCED to play at LB due to injuries. I'm sure Jose will talk to him about his future at the club over the summer and outline what his plan for using him along with the other three CB's is going to be.




ah come on, you dont actually believe that? Contracts mean nothing these days, if a player wants out he is gone. Jose wont want a player who isnt happy, its too disruptive. If gallas isnt getting the majoirty of games at CB he is gone, that why i think hes leaving in the summer.



quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
The story has been blown out of proportion because Gallas feels he is more productive in the centre then at left back, which is true. He lacks the attacking instincts that a left back playing at Chelsea needs. He's also not a true left footed player, which makes crossing and overlapping runs more difficult. I'm sure most of his comments are a result of frustration, not because he wants to leave Chelsea.


I am not saying he wants to leave chelsea, if jose tells him he will be 2nd choice centre back along with tryy he will stay. But i dont believe jose will tell him that. Ricardo will be 2nd choice, and gallas wont play bench warmer.


quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
I read that story a few weeks back...and i think more then anything else it was meant as a warning shot to Jose that Gallas was not going to play the role of LB forever. Since then, Jose has already stated that Chelsea need a LB...so i doubt you will see Gallas in that position next season. Personally, i think he will still play CB, and rotate with Carrvalho. The reason is simple...while both players are excellent. I don't think there is much that seperates them in terms of class. I don't expect the 'expert' portuguese contingent on this board to agree...but if you're an objective fan, you'll know what i mean.



They had already decided on a left back at christmas before gallas bridge got his injury. He cant rotate them often enough i feel to please galls. He cant rotate them every game, as this isnt good for the team. Gallas wont like to be rotated every match either. As i said he could start at CB for most top european sides. it quite clear that what he wants, to play regular football at CB. Unless jose gurantees that, which i dont think he will, he will leave.



quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
Oh yeah ? Then tell me why Carlo Cudacini in all likely hood is going to sign a long term contract despite the fact that he's only played a handful of games for Chelsea this year. Carlo is a also a world class player who is being sought after by at least two major EPL teams...from the looks of it, he's fairly happy warming the Chelski bench. Maybe....and i might be reaching here...but here goes....


Maybe...Money might have something to do with why Chelsea are able to attract top quality talent and keep them happy on the bench



Clearly carlo is happy with warming the benuch, buts its obvious gallas isnt. Hes not happy at playing in other positions apart from CB. Money isnt everything to some players, and at a top club like barca he will probaly get paid the same.


quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
I'm not saying that will happen with Gallas, but if you honestly think that being in a Championship winning side which is only going to get stronger next year doesn't mean shit then buddy... you don't really understand what it means to be a part of a something special. Gallas has been at Chelsea for a few seasons now. He's settled. He's made sacrifices for the team and is respected by the fans and coach alike. To put it bluntly...jose and Chelsea would have to be foolish to let him just leave, and I just don't see that happening.


they would have to be foolish, but its not up to them in the end.


Posted by A_M_8 on May-18-2005 19:56:

Some official football sites say that Madrid might be buying Emerson from Juve and Cristiano Ronaldo from Man U...


Posted by raveed on May-18-2005 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by A_M_8
Some official football sites say that Madrid might be buying Emerson from Juve and Cristiano Ronaldo from Man U...


i think thats rubbish ... emerson has only just come to juventus and is playing well as well as being on the verge of winning the scudetto given that he has joined them this season it seems unlikely hel go .. however madrid do need a player of his caliber to fill up the hole left by makelele so maybe theyl offer him a higher salary than juventus would be willing to shell out for his services

as far as cristiano ronaldo goes ....going to madrid at this point of time would not suit him because hes far to young to be playing amongst the egos of all them galacticos ... sure at his age he needs a mentor among the likes of zidane and such but having to play with 7 massive egos might be a bad career move.. however if joaquin is whom we could replace him with id pray that we sell him in a heartbeat but with chelsea heavily linked with hi itl be unlikely hel come to old trafford

btw aston villa seem to be on the verge of signing bellamy. doug ellis claimed the deal had already been done but newcstle were quick to refure his claim ... still think hel be at villa park next season though ....

btw can some1 pls tell me more about this guy javier mascherano ... im reading a lot about him and how good a potential talent he is


Posted by noikeee on May-18-2005 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by raveed
btw can some1 pls tell me more about this guy javier mascherano ... im reading a lot about him and how good a potential talent he is


he's been linked in another deal to Porto! it'd be an exchange with Corinthians for Luis Fabiano, plus some money involved from MSI (this company who put loads of cash into Corinthians so they could buy Mascherano and Tevez)


Posted by InterMilan31 on May-18-2005 23:35:

Mascherano is a defensive mid-fielder who currently is a dominating force in South America. He controls the mid-field and will be an instant starter in any team he goes to.

Ronaldo to Madrid? Where the hell did u hear that.

Emerson might be sold for the right price. Juve always sell for the right price.... also Juve has no money to buy players this season so they will be selling someone my bet will be Trezeguet.


Posted by raveed on May-19-2005 04:42:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31


Ronaldo to Madrid? Where the hell did u hear that.



http://www.goal.com/NewsDetail.aspx...s=62360&progr=1


Posted by noikeee on May-19-2005 09:28:

Ok, Mascherano isn't going to Porto, as Luis Fabiano has just been confirmed at Sevilla for next season .

I've heard about Ronaldo going to Madrid before, and apparently Luxemburgo (R. Madrid manager) said something today to the press that he thinks Ronaldo is "a great player".


Posted by Sid on May-19-2005 16:39:

Ahmad Elrich to Fulham

watch out for this young Aussie. Grew up in the same area and actually really good friends with his younger brother, who plays in the state league here in NSW. Expect him to make a similar impact that Cahill made at Everton


Posted by raveed on May-19-2005 19:55:

well corradi and fiore are leaving valencia for sure

you guys should check out goal.com ... its not as good as soccernet but they have a lot more interesting info on the transfer market(most of which are rumours ofcourse but interesting nonetheless). they running these articles from die hard fans of all the big clubs reviewing the highs lows, best/worst players goals decisions etc ... pretty interesting ... the roma article makes me feel bad for the guy but i still want them to go down lol ... the news shows up in the form of a single popup so the blocker needs to be turned of (lol sounds like im promoting some scam dont it)


Posted by fastmp3 on May-20-2005 01:31:

Scam U


Posted by Kytracid on May-20-2005 13:08:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
Ok, Mascherano isn't going to Porto, as Luis Fabiano has just been confirmed at Sevilla for next season .

I've heard about Ronaldo going to Madrid before, and apparently Luxemburgo (R. Madrid manager) said something today to the press that he thinks Ronaldo is "a great player".


Mascherano's transfer to Corinthians is almost a done deal. He's going to be playing alongside Carlos Tevez in what is a smaller version of Brazilian leagues Chelsea.

There is some suggestion that Corinthians is a feeder club for Chelsea much like PSV, so if that's true then expect Mascherano and Tevez to both head over to the EPL sometime in the next few years.

Ronaldo will probably play for Madrid one day. He has the flair and style that suits La Liga. Probably won't happen for atleast a few years, but i wouldn't be suprised if he made a big money move over to the Galatico's at some point in the next 5 years.

He's the natural successor to Figo so it's only natural to link him with Madrid. I still think he needs a few more years at Man U though...they have a great tradition of blooding youngsters and he's still not the finished article yet.


Posted by George Smiley on May-20-2005 14:18:

Sheff Utd have singed Lilian Nalis from Leicester and Paul Ifill from Millwall


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