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Originally posted by Haak ok, no idea where you got that from. that never happened. mike was gonna remix it though, well he did actually, but he had a computer crash. too bad cause it was a cool remix

Thanks for claryifying that for us Haak...sometimes people are too foolish to either make up their own rubbish or believe the unbelievable...therefore i stand to say that MIKE does stick to his OWN producing...from his own...!

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J See? Producer DOESN'T = DJ you morons.

consider yourself quoted.

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Originally posted by eRRaTiK consider yourself quoted.

I love you too.

Now the question is do the "nameless" producers, who are clearly are instrumental in the creation of a track, get the credit they deserve? Lets look outside of dance for a moment and look at all the rock, hyip-hop albums that gets produced and who gets the credit? Britney Spears, the lead singer of , Singer/Songwriter A Does Charlie May get recognized for all the work he does wtih Sasha? Which, by all rights, should at least make him half as famous as Sasha.

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Originally posted by Scottaculous Now the question is do the "nameless" producers, who are clearly are instrumental in the creation of a track, get the credit they deserve? Lets look outside of dance for a moment and look at all the rock, hyip-hop albums that gets produced and who gets the credit? Britney Spears, the lead singer of , Singer/Songwriter A Does Charlie May get recognized for all the work he does wtih Sasha? Which, by all rights, should at least make him half as famous as Sasha.

i don't really get your point. But

Britney would be famous no matter who the producer or writer is. and unfortunately no matter how good or bad the track is.

And for most of the sasha fans they know who may, emmerson & xl are.

David Guetta doesn't produce his own music.

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Originally posted by d-miurge David Guetta doesn't produce his own music.

Isn't that the guy form 'the world is mine'?

yes

Britney is a performer. She performs the track, and so is the face of it. Neither Sasha nor his buddies perform anything, so who gets their name on the track is up to them. I doubt Charlie May minds though, he still gets half the royalties for his writing credit.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Britney is a performer. She performs the track, and so is the face of it. Neither Sasha nor his buddies perform anything, so who gets their name on the track is up to them. I doubt Charlie May minds though, he still gets half the royalties for his writing credit.

I meant on the record. Britney sings live on the record. Nothing on Xpander or most Sasha tracks is done live.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I meant on the record. Britney sings live on the record. Nothing on Xpander or most Sasha tracks is done live.

sasha doesn't use records

btw:: Britneys music is arranged on a computer just as much as Xpander is.

You test my patience.

Record = recording. On the Xpander record, Sasha didn't do anything live. It was all programmed.

And by the way: Britney sings. That's a live performance. Even if her voice was touched up, she sang it, not her producer. No matter what else happens on a Britney record, she is the sole live performer.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You test my patience. Record = recording. On the Xpander record, Sasha didn't do anything live. It was all programmed. And by the way: Britney sings. That's a live performance. Even if her voice was touched up, she sang it, not her producer. No matter what else happens on a Britney record, she is the sole live performer.

Put Your Voice Where Your Mouth Is
By GARY GIDDINS

ASHLEE SIMPSON got caught with her microphone down on "Saturday Night Live" in October, and five weeks later, on Dec. 5, "Good Morning America," which had been especially gleeful in its post-mortem of the debacle, presented Lindsay Lohan in a "live singing debut"- lip-syncing just like Ms. Simpson. Good thing this was a slow news year so that the press could pay suitable attention to a cultural issue that has shocked many Americans over the age of 16. Forget the occupation of Iraq, the burgeoning debt, the war over values, and the passion of the Christ: this was the year we were obliged to face up to the fact that show business is show business.

Among other performers accused of moving their lips while a machine does the labor are Britney Spears, Luciano Pavarotti, Shania Twain, Beyonc� and Madonna. (One person who won't be accused of lip-syncing is Kevin Spacey, but everyone who has seen "Beyond the Sea" wishes he had.) As for performers who sing in tandem with prepared tapes or backup tracks, this page could no more contain their number than it could that of film actors with lasered body parts. It's a wonder anyone bothers to deny it. Back in February it was reported that fans of Ms. Spears prefer her to lip-sync - despite her denials of the practice - because they expect flawless digitalization when they pay serious money for a concert. Besides, as Ms. Simpson complained to Katie Couric on "Today," it's not like she engaged in anorexia or wardrobe malfunction.

Very good. They lip-synch when playing live. Lovely. However, this doesn't change that on the recording of the track you hear on the record, she sang the vocals. I don't give a flying fuck about anything else, because that's irrelevant to who takes credit for the studio recording that appears on the discs of the singles and albums.

Now stop dragging out a point which you know is invalid, because if you haven't worked out I'm talking about the studio recording by now, you're an absolute idiot.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Very good. They lip-synch when playing live. Lovely. However, this doesn't change that on the recording of the track you hear on the record, she sang the vocals. I don't give a flying fuck about anything else, because that's irrelevant to who takes credit for the studio recording that appears on the discs of the singles and albums. Now stop dragging out a point which you know is invalid, because if you haven't worked out I'm talking about the studio recording by now, you're an absolute idiot.

keyboards... And there were plenty of live instruments used in Add

Sasha's kit-list
DJ-2000 / JP-8000 / JD-800 / JV-1080 / GP-100 / SDE-330 / SDX-330 / Boss pedals / TB-303 with a Devilfish conversion / MC-505 (old)

sandstorm on the left

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 keyboards... And there were plenty of live instruments used in Add Sasha's kit-list DJ-2000 / JP-8000 / JD-800 / JV-1080 / GP-100 / SDE-330 / SDX-330 / Boss pedals / TB-303 with a Devilfish conversion / MC-505 (old)

You don't play keyboards live for a sequencer. The keyboard controls the sequencer, which plays the requisite synths. It isn't done in one take. Every synth is programmed seperately, then you tap it in with the keyboard.

List me the live instruments used in ADD. I'll bet Sasha didn't play them.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You don't play keyboards live for a sequencer. The keyboard controls the sequencer, which plays the requisite synths. It isn't done in one take. Every synth is programmed seperately, then you tap it in with the keyboard. List me the live instruments used in ADD. I'll bet Sasha didn't play them.

you think any tipe of music today is done without sequencing? You think they have the instrumental done, then Britney just records her voice over it?

Ah fuck it, where's JakeC when you need him?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Ah fuck it, where's JakeC when you need him?

Hello, how can i help?

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Originally posted by JakeC Hello, how can i help?

"You think they have the instrumental done, then Britney just records her voice over it?"

I was under the impression that's how it was done. Could you clarify, being an engineer 'n all?

The Vocals are usually laid down last.

The main vox then the harmonies (if any).

Right, thanks.

Point stands, sandstorm.

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Originally posted by JakeC The Vocals are usually laid down last. The main vox then the harmonies (if any).

sir engineer. Vocals are also saved as a seperate layer. So they can be broken, sequenced differently and givin fx if needed?

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