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Originally posted by Cloudburst I would just like to add that I think my idea is the best...

Jeez!

Cheers anyhow Cloudburst.

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Originally posted by Fundamental Possible TA Anthem Plan #1 etc.

I'm 100% behind this idea. Aside from the bonus that you'll actually have two winners (the melody producer and the remixer), it'll also produce some excellent variations. These could even be ranked by vote count afterwards to produce a 'top three' or whatever.

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It looks like a great idea on paper ... but lets face it, it's impossible Anyone here ever do any project management? Managing that many producers with very different styles and ideas would be a nightmare ... and ultimately fruitless I think.

I support Fundamental's suggestion!

i'm down with fundamental's suggestion.

heres a quick melody i tried.

tyler c melody

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Originally posted by Fundamental Melodies are submitted in MIDI format and Swamper (if he's feeling up to the challange again) chooses his favourite from the bunch.

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Originally posted by TOR Swamper only had the midi files last time around, and it's hard to judge a melody properly that way (he had to play them in Winamp, if i recall correctly). so a "more complete" composition should be better indeed.

synthwork and composition is a HUGE part of a track, as well as the melody... can you imagine Hydra - Affinity on some weak sinewave synth?


i think submissions should be in mp3 format, but a short sample of what lead should sound like. it's extremely hard to judge a melody by a midi

Exactly. MIDI doesnt show how it sounds, coz there might be a delay, some tremolo, it could be either legato or retriggered....plus i think the sound itself is just as important as the melody its playing.

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Originally posted by Cloudburst I would just like to add that I think my idea is the best...

Fine then, just there is a little problem, what about those who can not export to MIDI like me?

I just can not export to MIDI with my FL Studio for some reason, tho, I'm sure I can come up with an enjoyable Anthem Melody.
Couldn't I submit FLP files?

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Originally posted by PDM Fine then, just there is a little problem, what about those who can not export to MIDI like me? I just can not export to MIDI with my FL Studio for some reason, tho, I'm sure I can come up with an enjoyable Anthem Melody. Couldn't I submit FLP files?

You can send them on to me if you like .. I'll extract the midi for you

And of course if they're good, I might accidently get them mixed up with my own submission

I support Fundamental's idea too
but I think the track's name should be
Remixer vs. MelodyMaker - TitleTheyBothHaveDecided (TA Anthem for XXXX)

oh and I forgot...here's my melody submission
http://monogon.sitesled.com/monogon_melody.mp3

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Originally posted by bricky You can send them on to me if you like .. I'll extract the midi for you And of course if they're good, I might accidently get them mixed up with my own submission

Hahahaha..... asshole....

But yeah, I think I will do that.

Thank you Bricka ...

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Originally posted by Invertika Exactly. MIDI doesnt show how it sounds, coz there might be a delay, some tremolo, it could be either legato or retriggered....plus i think the sound itself is just as important as the melody its playing.

The midi is just as important as the synth; we need both to see the composer's vision and forge our own from it. To create counter-melodies and effective pads and percussion, the midi track is essential (or the flp in the one guy's case).

I will definitely join in and make a remix of the chosen melody, depending on if it has good progression and a catchy, engrossing nature.

This is a great idea and a good way to promote the site; if we can get enough awesome remixes, it will definitely make waves and get people interested.

Good luck everyone

So, to who we send our submissions?

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Originally posted by tylerc i'm down with fundamental's suggestion. heres a quick melody i tried. tyler c melody

that's a pretty good melody, some nice progressions there..


in my opinion, the system Fundamental proposes is the most logical way to go. however, i agree with EtherealSL and DJ Shibby that the sound is also important. it provides a much clearer view of the melody.. otherwise Swamper will have to judge them with the standard Winamp sounds again (piano/strings). just imagine Tyler's melody on a piano


DJ Shibby is bringing up another good point, btw.. how many layers should the melody be made of? can it have counter-melodies already or should that be down to the remixer?


as for the track title, i'd say "Melody writer vs. Remixer - Track Name (TA Anthem)", as Ronk says..

Nice melody tyler.
I would give it another rythem.
It's too standart.

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Originally posted by PDM Fine then, just there is a little problem, what about those who can not export to MIDI like me? I just can not export to MIDI with my FL Studio for some reason, tho, I'm sure I can come up with an enjoyable Anthem Melody. Couldn't I submit FLP files?

Sorry, I was acting as Fundy's clone yesterday...

I can help people set up FL to export midi (hopefully), I've done it before...

Er, people... If you're wanting to submit these melodies then don't do so yet as the submissions are meant to be anonymous!

The only was the melodies will be judged in a objective way is if everyone's is in MIDI format. We don't an inferior melody to be picked just because the synths anre nicer, especially when the finished version will sound completely different. Plus, MIDIs are quick and easy (which will allow even the most amateur of producers to get involved), and the file sizes are perfectly small for transferring.

The reason I said the track name should be "Artist A - Track Name (Artist B Remix)" is because when Artist A submits their version of their own melody then it would surely be an original. i.e. "Artist A - Track Name", and all other versions would be remixes of this.

^ word

an anthem should be great even in midi.

so then, whom to send it?

well theres been 3 excellent anthem melodies submitted so far should be interesting to see which wins. seeing as its joe's idea i propose everyone sends their midi's to him. he can sort it out

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Originally posted by Fundamental The only was the melodies will be judged in a objective way is if everyone's is in MIDI format. We don't an inferior melody to be picked just because the synths anre nicer, especially when the finished version will sound completely different.

once again, midis just won't do justice to a melody... listen to some midis of successful trance songs... who said an anthem has to be a arpeggiated supersaw? what if you wanted to do something different... can you imagine john askew's remix of waterplanet's introspection on a midi, my god that would horrible and nobody would consider it (just based on the melody) for production.


i think TAs will be able to set apart melodies from synths. like said before, synthwork is just as important and in order to get the full idea (and potential) of the melody across, it should be played with the synth the producer had in mind.

i doubt there will be much bias based on who sent it. i mean, if luke terry or carl b or even airbase sent a shitty melody, i don't think anybody will vote for it just because they sent it.

i made a TA Anthem long time ago...people liked it but it didnt got a special threatment
http://stage.co.il/media/maorlevi363240.mp3

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Originally posted by EtherealSL what if you wanted to do something different...

Well you can easily do that when you are making your remix of the selected melody!

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Originally posted by DRM seeing as its joe's idea i propose everyone sends their midi's to him. he can sort it out

Well, I dunno if I'd be best to send them to because I was planning on submitting a melody too!

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Originally posted by EtherealSL once again, midis just won't do justice to a melody... listen to some midis of successful trance songs... who said an anthem has to be a arpeggiated supersaw? what if you wanted to do something different... can you imagine john askew's remix of waterplanet's introspection on a midi, my god that would horrible and nobody would consider it (just based on the melody) for production. i think TAs will be able to set apart melodies from synths. like said before, synthwork is just as important and in order to get the full idea (and potential) of the melody across, it should be played with the synth the producer had in mind. i doubt there will be much bias based on who sent it. i mean, if luke terry or carl b or even airbase sent a shitty melody, i don't think anybody will vote for it just because they sent it.

The point is that we all know how to emulate a supersaw.

You don't actually listen to the midi in piano... you open your sequencer and copy the notes in the miditrack to your chosen synthstyles.

And yes, a good, well-written melody will sound good in a large variety of different synths; and most importantly, piano.

It would be interesting to see some remixes done in acid, some in supersaw, and some in dreamy atmospheres. As opposed to all using one blah supersaw.

Oh well, I guess mine won't enter because I didn't send it anonymously.
But yet again, hey I'm not famous so... does it really matter, is not like I'm gonna morph the objectivity of people with my name.

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Originally posted by PDM Oh well, I guess mine won't enter because I didn't send it anonymously. But yet again, hey I'm not famous so... does it really matter, is not like I'm gonna morph the objectivity of people with my name.

Just edit it from your other post. Nobody noticed...

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