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Originally posted by Slylee ha all the "catholic" school kids down here drive beamers and do coke on the weekends. those parents are really getting their money's worth!

hahah that's how it was in NY too. i went to a public school in kind of a poor neighborhood and i didn't even know what drugs were until i started hanging out with kids from catholic school!

they corrupted me, i tell ya...


p.s. sex rules

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Originally posted by l�cid hahah that's how it was in NY too. i went to a public school in kind of a poor neighborhood and i didn't even know what drugs were until i started hanging out with kids from catholic school! they corrupted me, i tell ya... p.s. sex rules

What can I say? Catholic school kids know how to party AND be hipocritical... it's what organized religion is all about!

BTW Lucid, where are you today? I've been looking for you on the AIM and no luck !

P.P.S. Sex does rule...

PPPS You just IM'd me... disregard end of post

P.P.P.S.
sex really does rule

P.P.P.P.S.
i have to pee for real...then go to lunch. see ya! /meaningless post

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Originally posted by Rob Orbax, please do something about the situation, otherwise you're going to be using this as your sig in the not too distant future.

Personally, a woman with a sexual history isnt as immoral (that too) as there is a direct correlation to # of guys fucked and how many times shes broken up with people.

Im not saying they are related im saying this bitch cant keep a steady relationship to save her life, and she probably ends up having sex because thats all there is to it.

So in the end, great, have sex with 30 people, makes it REALLLLLL easy for me to tell how good your judgment is.

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Originally posted by l�cid hahah that's how it was in NY too. i went to a public school in kind of a poor neighborhood and i didn't even know what drugs were until i started hanging out with kids from catholic school! they corrupted me, i tell ya... p.s. sex rules

ive done way more drugs in private methodist school than i ever did being in a public school.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: ive done way more drugs in private methodist school than i ever did being in a public school.

A drugged out methodist virgin... rofl...

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Originally posted by DJ RJT A drugged out methodist virgin... rofl...

the irony. i can remember one time where i could have gotten it real easy. but i didnt take it. and im glad i didnt. it would have been a meaningless one nighter. never saw them again.

rofl

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Originally posted by Vlad Hey man, its not like I wouldnt do it, its just that Ive never been with someone that I wanted to do it with.

no... really? I'm shocked!

edit: then why do you have that lame ass, self righteous sig. Same for all of you. Just because your a lame virgin doesn't mean you should turn it into some moral superiority.

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Originally posted by djmetatron rofl no... really? I'm shocked! edit: then why do you have that lame ass, self righteous sig. Same for all of you. Just because your a lame virgin doesn't mean you should turn it into some moral superiority.

feelin threatened are we?

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: feelin threatened are we?

no, but i hate it when people are self righteous for stupid reasons.

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Originally posted by Dervish I just think it's not that big a deal really (virginity and so on not), and people watch too many films and stuff. Yeah having sex with other people you can get hurt, but in any relationship you can.

+1

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Originally posted by Sunsnail

very clever. why don't you actually defend your angle instead of being so fleetingly self righteous?

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Originally posted by Orbax Personally, a woman with a sexual history isnt as immoral (that too) as there is a direct correlation to # of guys fucked and how many times shes broken up with people. Im not saying they are related im saying this bitch cant keep a steady relationship to save her life, and she probably ends up having sex because thats all there is to it. So in the end, great, have sex with 30 people, makes it REALLLLLL easy for me to tell how good your judgment is.

what if a girl doesn't want a steady relationship? what if she enjoys being single and being able to have fun? just because she's slept with X amount of guys doesn't mean that she has poor judgment. i mean as long as they are smart about it - using protection against pregnancy and STDs - i don't really see anything wrong. i guess basically i'm saying that girls and guys should be able to enjoy and explore sexuality, without being judged as a "slut" or a "bad person"

also i think the number of people you have been with should never be discussed with a partner. it leaves too many bad connotations and judgements in their head. all you need to know is that they are clean and healthy.

i don't want to start an argument, i just think it's an interesting topic - sex vs virginity.

then again, i am a sexual deviant.

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Originally posted by djmetatron rofl no... really? I'm shocked! edit: then why do you have that lame ass, self righteous sig. Same for all of you. Just because your a lame virgin doesn't mean you should turn it into some moral superiority.

Well...It IS moral superiority. so fuck off

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Originally posted by l�cid what if a girl doesn't want a steady relationship? what if she enjoys being single and being able to have fun? just because she's slept with X amount of guys doesn't mean that she has poor judgment. i mean as long as they are smart about it - using protection against pregnancy and STDs - i don't really see anything wrong. i guess basically i'm saying that girls and guys should be able to enjoy and explore sexuality, without being judged as a "slut" or a "bad person" also i think the number of people you have been with should never be discussed with a partner. it leaves too many bad connotations and judgements in their head. all you need to know is that they are clean and healthy. i don't want to start an argument, i just think it's an interesting topic - sex vs virginity. then again, i am a sexual deviant.

I agree. Its the person to a large extent. I have met sexually active girls and thought they were the most innocent little dolls on earth and I felt that they were having sex for "right" reasons.

I dont understand 1 night stands, "hook ups" or any of that. Not to say i dont have an intellectual understanding of two people not wanting a relationship like you said...

lets put this in a different context. I want to drink all the time. If I woke up at 7am and decided to get fucking hammered wouldnt people who looked at alcohol even as a recreational substance think thats a bit weird im fucking drunk at 8am? Its the fact that my desires have overwhelmed common sense and to a degree morality.

Sex is becoming so common its becoming "invisible" to a lot of people as something that just "happens" these days.

I prefer a more thoughtful, critical look at things, and say "I wonder what it would be like if EVERYONE did this" its a quick way to test a theory.

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In the end It comes down to the person, and whether or not they have proven themselves to make good decisions, judgments etc... and how critically they apply themselves to things.

Some girls have been fuckin since they were able to think and its become invisible, and therefore uncriticized in their lives.

Others waited, and have made pretty good decisions since.

I have come close about 4 times to losing my virginity, but I realized that they just werent someone I wanted to attach to me any harder, and I didnt wish a long term relationship with them. Sex would have gotten the whole situation screwed up. So, despite a desire to have sex, I didnt. It was moral in the sense it was the right way to treat the person, and on a selfish level, I didnt feel like dealing with an attached human, they can be quite clingy.

So there

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Originally posted by djmetatron very clever. why don't you actually defend your angle instead of being so fleetingly self righteous?

i dunno, i felt like posting a smily

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Originally posted by Orbax Well...It IS moral superiority. so fuck off

Morality is a completely subjective thing...

For instance...

I think it is completely immoral of you to claim moral superiority due to your virginity...

And quite frankly, people were meant to fuck, that's why they can... and if you come at me with some "But in the bible it says this..." or "My Parents taught me this..." bullshit, I urge you to open your eyes and start making decisions that are rational and logical through your own eyes, not through what you've been told by social authority figures...

Edit #1: Grammar and Clarification i.e. If you are thinking logically and rationally about something, I don't think Murder or Rape will cross your mind... apparently it does for some tho....

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Originally posted by DJ RJT Morality is a completely subjective thing... For instance... I think it is completely immoral of you to claim moral superiority due to your virginity... And quite frankly, people were meant to fuck, that's why they can... and if you come at me with some "But in the bible it says this..." or "My Parents taught me this..." bullshit, I urge you to open your eyes and start making decisions that are rationally and logically through your own eyes, not through what you've been told by social authority figures...

Morality and religion are seperate friend. Dont put words in my mouth. Ethical and Moral actions can be labeled, judged, and measured. And your "premise" of "If you can you should" is one of the stupidest fucking things Ive ever heard. Go duct tape a chop stick into the oven sensor and bake your head at 400 degrees for a few hours. You were meant to, thats why you can.


" I urge you to open your eyes and start making decisions that are rationally and logically through your own eyes, not through what you've been told by social authority figures... "

uhm...riiiiight.

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Originally posted by djmetatron no, but i hate it when people are self righteous for stupid reasons.

It just means we are not going to hell...

Oooooooohhhhhh

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Originally posted by DJ RJT I urge you to open your eyes and start making decisions that are rationally and logically through your own eyes, not through what you've been told by social authority figures...

logically speaking, u are just as close-minded as we are

our morality is currupt. todays world proves that.

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Originally posted by DJ RJT I urge you to open your eyes and start making decisions that are rationally and logically through your own eyes, not through what you've been told by social authority figures...

Think about what you just said.


If this statement is true, then anybody who has ever done anything rational or logical through their own eyes is ok? Even criminals or rapists?

Come lets be real here, if you want to fuck people fine, if you don't fine. But taking either camp says nothing about you, it is only a choice.

go get some ass...........................


i know i havent in a while

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Originally posted by Orbax Morality and religion are seperate friend. Dont put words in my mouth. Ethical and Moral actions can be labeled, judged, and measured. And your "premise" of "If you can you should" is one of the stupidest fucking things Ive ever heard. Go duct tape a chop stick into the oven sensor and bake your head at 400 degrees for a few hours. You were meant to, thats why you can. " I urge you to open your eyes and start making decisions that are rationally and logically through your own eyes, not through what you've been told by social authority figures... " uhm...riiiiight.

ROFL... you obviously missed the point...

It's not a because we can, we should premise, it's a simple fact of life. People have sex to perpetuate the human race, it's not dirty or sinful, it's natural...

And while I agree that religion and morals are two different things, people who can differentiate the two tend not to boast about their moral high ground...

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logically speaking, u are just as close-minded as we are

You keep telling yourself that... you're the one making blatantly close-minded statements along the lines of:

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our morality is currupt. todays world proves that

WTF does that even mean? I'll agree, there are some terrible things going on in the world right now (i.e. The Middle East, AIDS, basically everything that's happening in Africa, teh Bush administration, etc.) But I'll tell you this much, don't tell me I'm morally corrupt just because things in the world aren't how you think they should be...

I'll tell you guys this much, in my opinion, if all of you "TA Virgins" were really secure in your virginity and happy with where you lives are at, this thread would never have been created...

People with real convictions don't need others to validate them...

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