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Posted by Slylee on Jun-22-2005 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by M@t
Was the thread title supposed to be a pun slylee?






it is now!


Posted by Clovis on Jun-22-2005 17:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee



it is now!


You're NOT PAYING ATTENTION!


Posted by Slylee on Jun-22-2005 17:07:

Re: Re: oh my god

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
you should be like...

"well mom, you fucked up on me...so who are you to tell anyone how to raise their kid"





not really, my mom did a damn good job raising a pain in the ass like me all by herself.


Posted by NiteMer on Jun-22-2005 17:10:

Re: oh my god

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
my f'n mother..i swear.

ok she just found out that my uncle's wife is an athiest and she's freaking out because my little cousin (he's like 3) isn't going to have "God" in his life and she just went on and on about how it's "WRONG" and "he needs to be brought up with some sort of belief system BLA BLA BLA BLA" which, i'm not saying i disagree with, but it's NOT HER KID, it's her nephew, and it's my UNCLE'S job to try to work something out with HIS WIFE and HIS SON...

i mean am i right or am i right?

god, she fucking thinks everyone in the world has to see things her way or they're wrong.


Wow. We should introduce our mothers. Mine is such a medler. So my half sister (mind you, not my mother's daughter. Actually from my father's last marriage) is moving in with her boyfriend and my mom is talking about how she can't believe their parents consent to this and shit. I guess she's gonna live at her boyfriend's parents house. I'm not saying I agree with it, completely, as she's 18, but it's not my place to meddle, and definitely not my mother's. They have no blood relation at all. I find it ridiculous.


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-22-2005 17:11:

Re: Re: Re: oh my god

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
not really, my mom did a damn good job raising a pain in the ass like me all by herself.



you know i was just trying to make a funny...i know how your relationship with your mom is


Posted by Slylee on Jun-22-2005 17:12:

For the record, my mother is FAR from a �by the book� catholic. She goes to church every Sunday, but she only likes to go because it�s a beautiful, peaceful place where she can gather her thoughts and just reflect on the week and just have some sort of inner peace�sort of like yoga. Trust me, she works for a law firm FULL of phony Christians and they piss her off..her boss always tries to get her to join his church, and she gets annoyed.


Posted by jonSun on Jun-22-2005 17:12:

Re: oh my god

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
my f'n mother..i swear.

ok she just found out that my uncle's wife is an athiest and she's freaking out because my little cousin (he's like 3) isn't going to have "God" in his life and she just went on and on about how it's "WRONG" and "he needs to be brought up with some sort of belief system BLA BLA BLA BLA" which, i'm not saying i disagree with, but it's NOT HER KID, it's her nephew, and it's my UNCLE'S job to try to work something out with HIS WIFE and HIS SON...

i mean am i right or am i right?

god, she fucking thinks everyone in the world has to see things her way or they're wrong.


Your mothers gotta chill & let his brother bring his kid up the way he wants. Im sure he will work something out with his wife. If your Uncle was Muslim & tried to impose his ways of your Mom raising you, you Mom wouldnt like it at all. Im sure she will get over it soon since its family.


Posted by Mr. Pink on Jun-22-2005 17:12:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: oh my god

quote:
Originally posted by *InVeRs3*
Satanism doesn't promote peace or war. It just admires the darkness that's in humans, and their filthy elitism.



satanism promotes the self.

not darkness

it's mainly a selfish religion.

what is good for me, is ultimately GOOD

why bother about caring for other people?
me= #1

THAT is satanism


Posted by NiteMer on Jun-22-2005 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
Yes...Religions do promote peace...fuckin hell...

Homosexuals should burn in hell = peace
Priests molesting kids = peace
Africans don't get condoms because abstinence is better = peace
If you dont accept Jesus Christ as your saviour you will burn in hell = peace
Follow the Koran or you are an infidel = peace
Israel belongs to the jews because it is their "holy land" = peace



give me a fucking break...


Just want to say that this is a bit unfair. Only fanatics promote these things and priests that molest kids have nothing to do with God. They're just twisted and it's unfair to blame their faith, which obviously faltered there.


Posted by placebo on Jun-22-2005 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
we're not the people you should be telling this to


hahahaha so true

hahahahahahha

bol bol


Posted by *InVeRs3* on Jun-22-2005 17:14:

quote:

Originally posted by Clovis86
Yes...Religions do promote peace...fuckin hell...

Homosexuals should burn in hell = peace
Priests molesting kids = peace
Africans don't get condoms because abstinence is better = peace
If you dont accept Jesus Christ as your saviour you will burn in hell = peace
Follow the Koran or you are an infidel = peace
Israel belongs to the jews because it is their "holy land" = peace



give me a fucking break...


Homosexuality isn't even a damn sin. It's all a bible misinterpretation, i'm forgetting the whole story but i'll post it up when i find it. And why the fuck is it bad to do buttsex anyway?

Priests molest kids, yeah like what? 1%?

Last time I checked, sperm aren't living or sentient, neither are eggs.

Most Christians in my area don't really care if you follow the Koran. And what's bad about it?

Israel doesn't belong to the Jews. Mexico doesn't belong to the Mexicans. There should be no boarders.


Not all Christians believe in what the RIGHT WING church does.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Jun-22-2005 17:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
my mom just thinks it's important to at least introduce the child to some form of religion so that he is at least exposed to it...then later on he can make a decision and she would accept it.


There is one flaw in your mother's thinking. You will recall I told you about my own journey of faith. In the end, despite all I had learned about other religions I found that the religion I was raised with was the one that made sense to me. This is because we will alway be partial to the things that we were familure with as children. Your mother is right in that the child should be introduced to faith and that he should be allowed to choose his faith (even if that is no faith), however, this introduction must be belayed until after the child has reached the age of reason if the child is to be allowed to trully choose his own faith. In the mean time perhaps it would suffice to teach the child critical thought and introduce him to more earthly philosophies that can better be understood by a child.


Posted by Slylee on Jun-22-2005 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
Just want to say that this is a bit unfair. Only fanatics promote these things and priests that molest kids have nothing to do with God. They're just twisted and it's unfair to blame their faith, which obviously faltered there.


+1�

I know there is a lot of stereotyping when it comes to catholics/Christians, so don�t confuse the assholes who claim to be good Christians, with the belief system (and what it promotes) itself.


Posted by placebo on Jun-22-2005 17:18:

Did God create man, or did man create God?


Posted by M@t on Jun-22-2005 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by placebo
Did God create man, or did man create God?


Lol you dont need a question mark for that


Posted by Slylee on Jun-22-2005 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
There is one flaw in your mother's thinking. You will recall I told you about my own journey of faith. In the end, despite all I had learned about other religions I found that the religion I was raised with was the one that made sense to me. This is because we will alway be partial to the things that we were familure with as children. Your mother is right in that the child should be introduced to faith and that he should be allowed to choose his faith (even if that is no faith), however, this introduction must be belayed until after the child has reached the age of reason if the child is to be allowed to trully choose his own faith. In the mean time perhaps it would suffice to teach the child critical thought and introduce him to more earthly philosophies that can better be understood by a child.


yes, i read that post of yours and i completely agreed and thought it was big of you...ur right about going with what you're familiar with as a child. although i'm far from a catholic, my beliefs are that of the fundamentals of christianity... err..yea, u know what i mean


Posted by *InVeRs3* on Jun-22-2005 17:20:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: oh my god

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Pink
satanism promotes the self.

not darkness

it's mainly a selfish religion.

what is good for me, is ultimately GOOD

why bother about caring for other people?
me= #1

THAT is satanism


Then you're contradicting yourself like my bible contradicts itself


Posted by Mr. Pink on Jun-22-2005 17:21:

Rasta Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: oh my god

quote:
Originally posted by *InVeRs3*
Then you're contradicting yourself like my bible contradicts itself

im no satanist lol

like i said- religion is horse shit
and ill keep saying it without any explanation on why

cuz i know it pisses people off


Posted by dj tek on Jun-22-2005 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
There is one flaw in your mother's thinking. You will recall I told you about my own journey of faith. In the end, despite all I had learned about other religions I found that the religion I was raised with was the one that made sense to me. This is because we will alway be partial to the things that we were familure with as children. Your mother is right in that the child should be introduced to faith and that he should be allowed to choose his faith (even if that is no faith), however, this introduction must be belayed until after the child has reached the age of reason if the child is to be allowed to trully choose his own faith. In the mean time perhaps it would suffice to teach the child critical thought and introduce him to more earthly philosophies that can better be understood by a child.

well, i was raised a roman catholic up until i was about 13, thats when i disassociated myself from all religion. ive realized that i need to research and study different type of religion before i can accept something of my own. yes i was raised as a catholic, but how do i know that is it for ME ? i stated going to church before i can make decisions on my own for just about anything. so i think its very unfair to force ANY religion on a child. i believe something so holy as practicing a certain religion, should be a judgement made individually rather than forced on by family based on history.


Posted by Clovis on Jun-22-2005 17:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
+1�

I know there is a lot of stereotyping when it comes to catholics/Christians, so don�t confuse the assholes who claim to be good Christians, with the belief system (and what it promotes) itself.



My problem with the idea, is that if you follow the bible to the letter, that is exactly what it promotes...so if you're gonna say you're christian but you dont think gays will burn in hell...then...well you're going against the word of god...

...which means you will burn in hell aswell lol

btw Jamie:


Posted by placebo on Jun-22-2005 17:25:

quote:
Originally posted by M@t
Lol you dont need a question mark for that


No one has been able to prove either case.

Where I live it is extremely taboo to question the existence of "God". People hold their beliefs quite strongly and are afraid to hear anything that could harm their beliefs.

I tend to believe there is no God and that it was invented by man to explain the existence of things in the past and these stories and beliefs have been passed down from generation to generation, however, there is still that doubt that maybe there is some God like "force" that has created us, but no one can prove it, and I doubt anyone ever will. I remember when I discussed this with someone they told me that God doesn't make Himself known so he will know who the true believers are, its rebuttals like that what bother me the most about religion. No matter what question you have, what doubts you have, they will always throw some type of roadblock in your way


Posted by *InVeRs3* on Jun-22-2005 17:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
My problem with the idea, is that if you follow the bible to the letter, that is exactly what it promotes...so if you're gonna say you're christian but you dont think gays will burn in hell...then...well you're going against the word of god...

...which means you will burn in hell aswell lol

btw Jamie:



Gay's AREN'T going to burn in hell.

Why would a loving God kill someone for something as stupid as that?

And like I said before gay=sin is a misinterpretation which i'm still looking for.


Posted by M@t on Jun-22-2005 17:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
My problem with the idea, is that if you follow the bible to the letter, that is exactly what it promotes...so if you're gonna say you're christian but you dont think gays will burn in hell...then...well you're going against the word of god...

...which means you will burn in hell aswell lol

btw Jamie:



If God created homosexuality then how can it be a sin?

Clearly the bible was written in a much more conservative age, and needs a fucking update if they wanna keep people interested. Catholicism is holding this back


Posted by NiteMer on Jun-22-2005 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by *InVeRs3*
Homosexuality isn't even a damn sin. It's all a bible misinterpretation, i'm forgetting the whole story but i'll post it up when i find it. And why the fuck is it bad to do buttsex anyway?

Priests molest kids, yeah like what? 1%?

Last time I checked, sperm aren't living or sentient, neither are eggs.

Most Christians in my area don't really care if you follow the Koran. And what's bad about it?

Israel doesn't belong to the Jews. Mexico doesn't belong to the Mexicans. There should be no boarders.


Not all Christians believe in what the RIGHT WING church does.


I want to see you back homosexuality not being a sin, in scripture. On the other hand, it's no worse a sin than when I lie, or swear, or fornicate with a woman. I think it's pretty clear that sodomy is not acceptable to God, but it's not any worse than the sins we commit on a daily basis.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Jun-22-2005 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by dj tek
well, i was raised a roman catholic up until i was about 13, thats when i disassociated myself from all religion. ive realized that i need to research and study different type of religion before i can accept something of my own. yes i was raised as a catholic, but how do i know that is it for ME ? i stated going to church before i can make decisions on my own for just about anything. so i think its very unfair to force ANY religion on a child. i believe something so holy as practicing a certain religion, should be a judgement made individually rather than forced on by family based on history.


Good luck to you. I did the same thing, starting when I was 12. What I meant to say in my post is that I think any religious teaching should be done only after the child is of an age where he can explore all religions and decide what is right for them. By raising a child in one religion it is inevitable that they will always identify with that religion.... especially in the bad times, the times when one needs their faith the most. As much as I wish you luck and hope you find what you are looking for I can almost certainly predict you will end up either remaining a Roman Catholic or at the very least a christian.... more likely protestant then Orthodoxed.


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