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Originally posted by D-res my gf listens to country

noooooooooooooo

i think that generally girls don't give edm a chance or if they do, they stick to trance and cheese b/c it's the most similar to pop music in the states (i.e. britney) with its vocals.

i like my cheese at times cuz sometimes you just want to belt out some stupid ass lyrics ("you came on cupids wings and then you flew away"), but i also like the dark and dirty beats of house and the funky sounds of sander and i'm now finding that there is some techno (minimal/melodic - hawtin, villalobos) that i enjoy. girls just gotta give other genres a chance.

I know you sing 'Shivers' when it's on, don't lie!

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Originally posted by UWM I know you sing 'Shivers' when it's on, don't lie!

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Originally posted by UWM I know you sing 'Shivers' when it's on, don't lie!

ecstacy is a good song to sing

TRANCE LOVER RIGHT HERE

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Originally posted by D-res my gf listens to country so idk....

this is why the midwest blows

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Originally posted by djkoolaide this is why the midwest blows

can i get an AMEN

I love trance, but the majority of my friends don't. When I ask them why, they say things like 'Isn't everyone that listens to EDM on drugs?', or 'It all sounds the same'. Similar comments from the guys and the chicks. I think what they say reflects stereotypes that maybe put people off anything other than some Britney Spears 'club mix' before giving the music a chance.

Having said that, the few friends I do have that enjoy trance are male. My female friends (bar a couple of them) just aren't that in to music in general. They'll have background music sometimes, but the passion and the enthusiasm isn't there.

Why? There is an evolutionary psychology theory suggesting that men become involved in music and the arts to increase their accessibility to attractive women. But if you've read what I've got to say about evo psych in the 'why do men like boobs' thread, you'll guess that I don't buy this one...but it's a theory.

Yeaaaaa where are all the trance girls?

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Originally posted by dc star Yeaaaaa where are all the trance girls?

There are plenty, most just dont post on internet forums

What you want is the Holy Grail of women, those who like EDM, do/tolerate drugs and are internet savvy.

I have personally met a grand total of 8 in the past 7 years, and due to their rarity, 90% they are hitched

good point

SendINg out an S.o.S to all TRANCE ADDICT GIRLS !!!! where ya all @ ITS SUMMMMMMMMMMMMMER TIMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE



DC

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Originally posted by kr00t0n What you want is the Holy Grail of women, those who like EDM, do/tolerate drugs and are internet savvy.

Well there are tons of girls like that here, ages from 13 to 30 that have all of the qualities you mentioned and most of them are even single Basicly its teh holly grail you seek

hey is there only americans here
where is the rest of the globe

AMEN!!!!!!!

Yes I guess there are a few just not iN T.O.

when I met my gf maybe 2 or 3 years ago, she handed me her cd case and told me to pick something.

and she had almost the same collection as me. She got into the stuff through her brother evidently.

she likes the really lofty happy kind of songs, ISOS and stuff like that. I myself am kinda getting into geeky things like demostyle which she can't stand listening to, but we can still listen to some trance together.

I find that the drug use turns alot of girls away from the trance, the idea of taking a pill that makes you wanna get felt up freaks alot of girls out I think. Alot of girls just cant stand that shit and its worse around trance than it is around other musics. But yeah, maybe if they werent so worried about getting high then getting molested by hoardes of horny dudes smushed together in such a small space, then there might be more of them.

Folks, you must realize that there is a world out there with people having widely varying tastes. Even more subtle is to realize that no one is "right" -- in particular, your opinions aren't the "right" ones. Yes, that's right! What you think is the "Holy Grail" of women, for example, is just your view. Others might disagree, maybe even for good reasons. For example, my "Holy Grail" definition is different; it's sans the drugs, since those reduce the clarity of your thoughts and unravel the integrity of your ego-self. Not healthy.

Another example is music. I used to be into what you now call "cheesy" trance. That period is long gone now. But when I *was* in it, I distinctly recall thinking the exact same thoughts as Estella, only applied to trance, not house. I.e., "I can't understand why anyone would NOT listen to trance." The funniest thing is that afterwards, I could indeed understand why someone wouldn't listen to it, because at that point I myself wouldn't listen to it!

As for techno and house, I can easily come up with reasons why I don't like it -- repetitive, not mentally stimulating, depressive, blah blah blah. I saw Carl Cox once, he was ok, I had a blast dancing, but I don't have the initiative to listen to that on my own; it's just not my thing. But this is because it feels like that to me. There's no such thing as an objective measure of "repetitive" music, say, or "depressive" music. I also find oldies incredibly depressing. But old people, who grew up during those times, find that kind of music envigorating (sp?) and nostalgic. So it's not that there's this globally-applicable label of "bad music" and "good music" so that you then go out and ask, So why don't people like music X? Or even, Why don't girls listen to music X, as if it's the "right" music and thus anyone not listening to it is just wrong. The worst situation to be in, god forbid, is in the minority. You end up with delusions of grandeur, "Oh, woe is me" syndrome and beliefs about the world being fucked up except for you and others like you. This also applies to politics.

Hehe, but take the above with some salt, as you also don't want to sink into extreme relativism, moral or otherwise...

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Originally posted by est There is an evolutionary psychology theory suggesting that men become involved in music and the arts to increase their accessibility to attractive women.

That theory is quite questionable, as far as I'm concerned. Great artists will go to extremes for their creative works, totally disregarding such trivialities as getting laid or married. It's the same as with academics: they don't care about such secular things when they've got entire worlds of Platonic delights in which to revel. Granted, much of this is a "hijacking" of mental processes that were intended for other things. But this is just what makes humans special.

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Originally posted by Alccode repetitive, not mentally stimulating, depressive,

Then electronic dance music is probably not the music for you, friend.

No objective measure of what is and is not more or less repetitive? Sure it's possible. Just find the most varied and/or complicated song you can and likewise the most repetitive, simple song. Then establish a continuum by creating a scale based on musical measurements like octaves, scale, rhythm, texture, movements, and so on. Probably nearly impossible, and most definitely impractical, but there you have it.

Or perhaps i'm looking at it from the wrong direction. You'd have to establish what repetitive and varied mean in music. I guess repetitive would mean a musical note, sound, or melody that repeats very often (Say the most repetitive repeating every bar for example). Varied meaning a song that has musical melody or sounds which repeat less often(Say a melody goes for 500+ bars without repeating). I suppose the amount of these repetitive and varied sounds when they are "layered" or are being played at the same time in harmony or counterpoint would also factor into the scale somehow. Keeping these things in mind, then you'd want to apply musical measurements such as scales, octaves, movements, etc. Is that not correct?

But rhythm now. Rhythm is the key here that I don't know how to turn. What is a complex rhythm over a simple one? Have I already answered that myself?

The problem I guess you're having is that you really do not, as most western and European people's do not, enjoy less melodic more rhythmic music. While that is understandable, it does not necessarily mean that your favorite track with lots of melodies is inherently more complex than a track Carl Cox would play in one of his sets, for example.

SOME amazin insight but.......

yes there are many ways to look @ scene but theres nothing wrong with thinkin a chic is Tre COOL if they enjoy some of the same musik ,interests eTc. SOooooooo its not like ppl can't still like commercial chunes but wheres the trance girls!!!!!!!?

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 she likes the really lofty happy kind of songs, ISOS and stuff like that. I myself am kinda getting into geeky things like demostyle which she can't stand listening to, but we can still listen to some trance together. I find that the drug use turns alot of girls away from the trance, the idea of taking a pill that makes you wanna get felt up freaks alot of girls out I think.

eh wtf is demostyle???

and it doesnt make you wanna get felt up, lol

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Originally posted by mezizo hey is there only americans here where is the rest of the globe

what the fuck are you talking about you n00b?
i've seen people from countries that i've never know they existed...

I totally agree. I think I'm one of the only girls that genuinely enjoys trance among the people I have come across. If it's not mainstream most girls I know just don't bother. The only difference between gender though I believe is girls will listen to it if it's on vs. guys who aren't into it are like wtf is this $hit.

girls love the house in the west

and the more mainstream trance like armin and tiesto BIG TIME which is good.


But as as progressive and techno haha nope. The clubs are usually dead empty with those shows, so no one really bothers anymore

i agree with the topic starter. more guys are into EDM. out of all the people in a club, there are normally more guys, at least, in most heavy EDM clubs, at best you get a 60/40 thing going. furthermore, out of all of them, most are completely clueless about music, but the few who do know, rarely have many girls in the group.

not saying women are inferior to men on the EDM subject, rather they are more scarce.

why? i've no idea. because the few that do like it a lot, like it for the same reasons us guys do. so... i don't get it.

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