Why does almost everyone think that Tiesto suck?

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Posted by Guerrilla on Jul-14-2005 04:25:

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But he does bitch about not being #1 and about how people shouldn't download his music. Tijs, on the other hand realizes how people downloading his music in North America before it was available here exposed a lot of people to him. And the PVD also bitches because no one's contacted him to play the Olympics or any other non-traditional edm setting and syas that "trance only belongs in clubs." I think that's bullshit. Saying that generally says that people have to be fucked up to enjoy trance. Maybe if PVD spent less time whining and more time selecting better records, he might be #1.

YES...

I think the only reason that PVD was bitching about Tiesto making his own concert and saying that "trance only belongs in clubs" is that because he (PVD) is not able (probably never will be) to gather a 25,000 people, get them paying $70 and make them go nuts for 8 hours. I would personally shoot myself after 3rd hour of PVD's music.

Posted by Nayil on Jul-15-2005 08:30:

Tiesto lost it completely after launching Nyana CD 2 (indoor)....his track selections been terrible.

Posted by ncgroov808 on Jul-15-2005 16:52:

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Originally posted by Nayil
Tiesto lost it completely after launching Nyana CD 2 (indoor)....his track selections been terrible.

I think his track selection has been very good. I like The Nyana indoor cd (most of it). It's not his best but it's good. Do you expect him to play the same type of music forever? It has to evolve.

Look at any of Tiesto's live set tracklistings. He can still select the songs. You can't judge somebody by 1 cd.

Also,

If Tiesto put out cd's under a different name, people would probably listen to them more or even if people listed his sets under an alias. Then once you told them it was Tiesto they would probably shit a brick. The name "Tiesto" is unfortuanetely a big turnoff for some close-minded people.

Posted by Nayil on Jul-16-2005 14:39:

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Originally posted by ncgroov808
I think his track selection has been very good. I like The Nyana indoor cd (most of it). It's not his best but it's good. Do you expect him to play the same type of music forever? It has to evolve.

Look at any of Tiesto's live set tracklistings. He can still select the songs. You can't judge somebody by 1 cd.

Also,

If Tiesto put out cd's under a different name, people would probably listen to them more or even if people listed his sets under an alias. Then once you told them it was Tiesto they would probably shit a brick. The name "Tiesto" is unfortuanetely a big turnoff for some close-minded people.

.... his stuff doesnt hit me anymore as it used to....

maybe il blame ASOTs and GBDJ for playing the the music he plays..cause when he mixes em...it sounds overplayed and commercial....

guess...it is worth being a nOOb...one gets to enjoy tiesto more.

Posted by jupiterone on Jul-16-2005 15:55:

none of you should pay attention to them...if you like tiesto then like him jesus christ dont start a feud about it and be all oMfg TiEsT0r what a NooBzxCoRe. justmakes matters worse

Posted by nchs09 on Jul-16-2005 18:15:

TIESTORRRRRRRRRRr

Posted by LuGi on Jul-17-2005 11:05:

Eh bs PVD = god

Posted by TrancEver on Jul-17-2005 11:21:

Let me explain to you...Anyone can discuss over Dj Charts..Anyone can say that Tiesto shouldn`t be at number 1...For instance, I say that PVD shouldn`t hold number two..In my opinion, Armin Van Buuren is better than Pvd because I like his style...
If you ask me Tiesto deserves number 1 spot because he used to produce the best, perform the best, make the show stuff best...and now, he is still on top because people respect him and even a person who is a beginner at Trance music, goes to party of Tiesto when it comes to his country...Every Tiesto concert has very crowd and that crowd never stay like that...All jump and enjoy the set played by Tiesto...Do not forget to respect...Oakenfold was the legend of Trance music...now where is he? trying to compose a soundtrack for a drama movie?? he might not be on the stage now but everyone respects him and his music he made...I do respect pvd too because he is one the best..I just say that Armin is better than him and that is my opinion..I went to Armin Van Buuren party in Pavilion this Wednesday(In Cyprus) and Tiesto will be here to play on 3rd of August...Armin was fantastic and I await the same from Tiesto too!! Keep jumping my friends...

Posted by jupiterone on Jul-17-2005 18:25:

I go to see tiesto because of the energy the shows have. not because of how he mixes every track and fucking walking around with a notepad and pencil labeling everytime he makes amistake. i love the energy he produces, PVD seems really emo when he plays IMO. shows no energy and emotion and just stares at the mixer...even though i do go see him aswell...because i like his mixing. its all personal preference lets not start any wars and try to force our beliefs onto others. never works. its like trying to force christianity on muslims. or budhism on protistants

Posted by cistane on Jul-18-2005 06:36:

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Originally posted by jupiterone
I go to see tiesto because of the energy the shows have. not because of how he mixes every track and fucking walking around with a notepad and pencil labeling everytime he makes amistake. i love the energy he produces, PVD seems really emo when he plays IMO. shows no energy and emotion and just stares at the mixer...even though i do go see him aswell...because i like his mixing. its all personal preference lets not start any wars and try to force our beliefs onto others. never works. its like trying to force christianity on muslims. or budhism on protistants

ok u obviously have not seen pvd at his best... first off tiesto does suck...and he IS an arrogant bastard as was said earlier on in this topic...but besides the whole djing thing... HIS TRACKS ARE NOT THAT GOOD...in fact some are borderline cheesy...and for the ones that are not...he either steals from others... like "Tiesto - Adagio for Strings" pfft... William Orbit already redid that one and instead tiesto gets more credit...his version isnt even that creative... and for another example... Tiesto - Honey... come on, thats not his song...he just RE DID IT ...its by billie ray martin... at least above and beyond had the decency to call it a remix... fuckin tiesto always wants to take credit for everything...man its pissing me off just writing about it

Posted by cistane on Jul-18-2005 06:39:

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Originally posted by TrancEver
Let me explain to you...Anyone can discuss over Dj Charts..Anyone can say that Tiesto shouldn`t be at number 1...For instance, I say that PVD shouldn`t hold number two..In my opinion, Armin Van Buuren is better than Pvd because I like his style...
If you ask me Tiesto deserves number 1 spot because he used to produce the best, perform the best, make the show stuff best...and now, he is still on top because people respect him and even a person who is a beginner at Trance music, goes to party of Tiesto when it comes to his country...Every Tiesto concert has very crowd and that crowd never stay like that...All jump and enjoy the set played by Tiesto...Do not forget to respect...Oakenfold was the legend of Trance music...now where is he? trying to compose a soundtrack for a drama movie?? he might not be on the stage now but everyone respects him and his music he made...I do respect pvd too because he is one the best..I just say that Armin is better than him and that is my opinion..I went to Armin Van Buuren party in Pavilion this Wednesday(In Cyprus) and Tiesto will be here to play on 3rd of August...Armin was fantastic and I await the same from Tiesto too!! Keep jumping my friends...

fool.... You say tiesto produces better than pvd??? LISTEN TO ANY OF TIESTOS ALBUMS and listen to out tehre and back...or the politics of dancing... youll come to find that pvd is way better than armin and tiesto combined and deserves the number one spot more than any of them... out there and back was the most definitive album of its genre... and why do trance beginners like tiesto? ...because ITS BEGINNER TRANCE MUSIC...its cheeeeesy, i mean come on!...pvd fans back me up!

Posted by mdk on Jul-18-2005 09:05:

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Originally posted by cistane
fool.... You say tiesto produces better than pvd??? LISTEN TO ANY OF TIESTOS ALBUMS and listen to out tehre and back...or the politics of dancing... youll come to find that pvd is way better than armin and tiesto combined and deserves the number one spot more than any of them... out there and back was the most definitive album of its genre... and why do trance beginners like tiesto? ...because ITS BEGINNER TRANCE MUSIC...its cheeeeesy, i mean come on!...pvd fans back me up!

PvD Whore... why does anyone need to back you up?
Do you want to force your opinion to other people or something?

IMHO PvD is an overrated producer, and he is very boring behind the decks, no interaction with his audience whatsoever. That sucks, cause his mixing is good. But why go see PvD? you might as well put a laptop in front of the audience. They interact with the crowd at the same level.

About PvD's own productions:
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ITS BEGINNER TRANCE MUSIC...its cheeeeesy, i mean come on

And again, that's my opinion as well.
I can't understand why you call tiesto's music beginner music, but you like PvD's tracks

Posted by ncgroov808 on Jul-18-2005 13:38:

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Originally posted by cistane
ok u obviously have not seen pvd at his best... first off tiesto does suck...and he IS an arrogant bastard as was said earlier on in this topic...but besides the whole djing thing... HIS TRACKS ARE NOT THAT GOOD...in fact some are borderline cheesy...and for the ones that are not...he either steals from others... like "Tiesto - Adagio for Strings" pfft... William Orbit already redid that one and instead tiesto gets more credit...his version isnt even that creative... and for another example... Tiesto - Honey... come on, thats not his song...he just RE DID IT ...its by billie ray martin... at least above and beyond had the decency to call it a remix... fuckin tiesto always wants to take credit for everything...man its pissing me off just writing about it

So whoever makes the first remix gets all credit?

And it was not a remix by Tiesto anyway. It was an arrangemennt of the original classical song. An arrangement does not allow you to be as creative as a remix because there are more limitations as to what you can do. Listen to the original Barber song and study what an arrangemenet is. And Tiesto DID give credit to Barber. Just because it isn't in the name of the song doesn't mean no credit was given. People say the same thing about Traffic being a ripoff of Pyschofunk, but he sampled that song and credits is as well. Can you imagine every edm song having to list all of its samples in the name of the song? Pleeeez.

Posted by jupiterone on Jul-18-2005 14:53:

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Originally posted by cistane
fool.... You say tiesto produces better than pvd??? LISTEN TO ANY OF TIESTOS ALBUMS and listen to out tehre and back...or the politics of dancing... youll come to find that pvd is way better than armin and tiesto combined and deserves the number one spot more than any of them... out there and back was the most definitive album of its genre... and why do trance beginners like tiesto? ...because ITS BEGINNER TRANCE MUSIC...its cheeeeesy, i mean come on!...pvd fans back me up!

Ignorance kills. You want people to back you up so you can have a sense of pride and thinking youre victorious in some way when youre really just arrogant. Youre the fool, you are trying to force your beliefs onto people that like tiesto. We were all created different, different likes and dislikes!!! Thats why were so FUCKING AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If we were all like eachother how would our world be fun, there would only have to be 1 DJ that everyone liked and as you see thats not the fact right now. Not everyone likes PVD's shows and his music because IMO its just cheese. I like Euro-Trance rather then his shit. I like his shows because he plays harder then he produces. Again thats MY opinion am i telling you to stop liking PVD because i think its cheese? No, so go fucking grow up.

Posted by Guerrilla on Jul-19-2005 03:18:

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fool... You say tiesto produces better than pvd??? LISTEN TO ANY OF TIESTOS ALBUMS and listen to out tehre and back...or the politics of dancing... youll come to find that pvd is way better than armin and tiesto combined and deserves the number one spot more than any of them... out there and back was the most definitive album of its genre... and why do trance beginners like tiesto? ...because ITS BEGINNER TRANCE MUSIC...its cheeeeesy, i mean come on!...pvd fans back me up!

PVD is better than Tiesto and Armin Van Buuren combined? Are you serious? This ignorant German do not even deserve to be number 2. I am not saying that his music that horrible; no, his music is good but it's good enough to allow this DJ to be in top 3. Moreover, during his shows he rarely has any connections with the crowd; sometimes it seems that even he does not like what he is playing. And "Politics of Dancing" is a way below any Tiesto's albums.

"Begginer Trance Music"!? Where did you get such a definition.

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fool...

And what's up with your attitude?

Posted by djprieto on Jul-19-2005 03:24:

Oh my my ...another Tiesto thread.....

Posted by cistane on Jul-19-2005 07:12:

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Originally posted by mdk
PvD Whore... why does anyone need to back you up?
Do you want to force your opinion to other people or something?

IMHO PvD is an overrated producer, and he is very boring behind the decks, no interaction with his audience whatsoever. That sucks, cause his mixing is good. But why go see PvD? you might as well put a laptop in front of the audience. They interact with the crowd at the same level.

About PvD's own productions:
And again, that's my opinion as well.
I can't understand why you call tiesto's music beginner music, but you like PvD's tracks

ok beginner trance music...lets take something like any of tiestos tracks...compared to Columbia ...or Out There...or even Movement...all hard ass songs by pvd himself...The Love From Above even...knocks out any tiesto track

Posted by cistane on Jul-19-2005 07:14:

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Originally posted by jupiterone
Ignorance kills. You want people to back you up so you can have a sense of pride and thinking youre victorious in some way when youre really just arrogant. Youre the fool, you are trying to force your beliefs onto people that like tiesto. We were all created different, different likes and dislikes!!! Thats why were so FUCKING AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If we were all like eachother how would our world be fun, there would only have to be 1 DJ that everyone liked and as you see thats not the fact right now. Not everyone likes PVD's shows and his music because IMO its just cheese. I like Euro-Trance rather then his shit. I like his shows because he plays harder then he produces. Again thats MY opinion am i telling you to stop liking PVD because i think its cheese? No, so go fucking grow up.

me grow up? how about you grow up. these threads are for discussion on tracks...why some people like certain artists/songs better than others...lets examine the title of this thread shall we? "why do people say tiesto sucks"...welp im just answering the question...so use some common sense before trying to get at me in some way... and Second, i never said anyone should stop liking tiesto...however i dont see why anyone WOULD like him as a dj and producer

Posted by cistane on Jul-19-2005 07:16:

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Originally posted by Guerrilla
PVD is better than Tiesto and Armin Van Buuren combined? Are you serious? This ignorant German do not even deserve to be number 2. I am not saying that his music that horrible; no, his music is good but it's good enough to allow this DJ to be in top 3. Moreover, during his shows he rarely has any connections with the crowd; sometimes it seems that even he does not like what he is playing. And "Politics of Dancing" is a way below any Tiesto's albums.

"Begginer Trance Music"!? Where did you get such a definition.

And what's up with your attitude?

politics of dancing way below any of tiestos albums???? ...oye

Posted by cistane on Jul-19-2005 07:20:

Definition of Beginner Electronic Music: DJ Sammy, Alice Deejay, ATC, Tiesto

Posted by mdk on Jul-19-2005 15:35:

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Originally posted by cistane
Definition of Beginner Electronic Music: DJ Sammy, Alice Deejay, ATC, Tiesto, Paul van Dyk

Posted by Rebel Brown on Jul-19-2005 15:39:

I saw Tiesto on July 7th at Cream, it was amazing.

That is all.

Posted by jupiterone on Jul-19-2005 15:55:

its terribly funny how pissed off you seem when you make posts, makes my day.

and yes you need to grow up, you dont see why someone WOULD like tiesto well they do but youre acting like its a crime and people shouldnt like him just because you think so.

And how in the world would tiesto fall under a category with ATC alice deejay and dj sammy...

Posted by mdk on Jul-19-2005 16:33:

That's probably in his own little 'cistane' world.

Posted by seekrets on Jul-19-2005 21:03:

shake them haters off

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