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Posted by zoric on Jul-13-2005 10:32:

quote:
Originally posted by TrAnCe CoNtRoL
rap with a little touch of classic rock


Fully agreed


Posted by JenniferRene on Jul-13-2005 13:41:

In my opinion I don�t really think you can place them into one category. Basically they create and play extraordinary music that forces you to move your feet.

How about placing them under the category �TALENTED�


Posted by JenniferRene on Jul-13-2005 20:10:

quote:
Originally posted by bubble
but then that would be deceptive, sort of like false advertising.

tee hee.


AWWWW come on!!!


Posted by UWM on Jul-13-2005 20:14:

He does have a good point, you must admit.


Posted by Pio on Jul-13-2005 20:16:

They are probably the best of what McProg has to offer, probably because they were the pioneers of formulaic melodic prog with sort of generic trancey elements.....before Markus Schulz and Armin ruined that sound by exploiting it to the max.

But I miss the old G & D.....Summer Calling, Alive, In My Memory, Beachball, Anything, On a high and all those remixes were much better than what's coming out these days.


Posted by JenniferRene on Jul-13-2005 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
He does have a good point, you must admit.


not that this matters but i swear you are in almost every thread i post in. FYI-the post about the "Reign" track-that's what it was and how we got confused about the artist. it was played during a Way Out West live set.

Bubble-Where'd ya them at?


Posted by UWM on Jul-13-2005 20:31:

My apologies for trying to be helpful in the other thread, and for posting in this one. From this point forward I will make a point of avoiding every thread you are involved in.


Posted by JenniferRene on Jul-13-2005 20:33:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
My apologies for trying to be helpful in the other thread, and for posting in this one. From this point forward I will make a point of avoiding every thread you are involved in.



forget it i was trying to be nice.


Posted by UWM on Jul-13-2005 20:39:

Oh, sorry. Misinterpretation. My bad


Posted by isoterra on Jul-14-2005 05:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Pio
They are probably the best of what McProg has to offer, probably because they were the pioneers of formulaic melodic prog with sort of generic trancey elements.....before Markus Schulz and Armin ruined that sound by exploiting it to the max.

But I miss the old G & D.....Summer Calling, Alive, In My Memory, Beachball, Anything, On a high and all those remixes were much better than what's coming out these days.


my thoughts exactly.. i quite liked how their remixes were so simple & basic yet so effective, and managed to form a musical niche which turned out to be mega-popular. nearly all their work pre-2004 shits on anything markus & the mcprog tribe have come out with, imo (though i hated summer calling, so depressing!)

and whilst i haven't liked their recent stuff i can tell they're trying to progress their sound, which i commend


Posted by CND on Jul-14-2005 05:21:

quote:
Originally posted by JenniferRene
In my opinion I don�t really think you can place them into one category. Basically they create and play extraordinary music that forces you to move your feet.

How about placing them under the category �TALENTED�


Agree.

And I do think they are getting better. If not better than maintaining a standard of quality. Both productions and live sets.

How many else can claim that?


Posted by Mr. Pink on Jul-14-2005 07:08:

Rasta

Personally, I like them.

they are solid in every aspect.

live sets and productions.

they get my approval


Posted by Addikted on Jul-14-2005 11:11:

i see g&d as a mixture between house, trance and pop music

yes thats right, I said pop music, you bunch of tiesto whores


Posted by Tenshi on Jul-14-2005 15:24:

in my oppinion they are hit and miss

they made some excellent stuff like their remixes of beber & tamara - travelling on, or andain - summer calling and i also love their track lament, but they also produced some stuff (eg arcadia, ozgur can - changed remix) i really dislike...


Posted by Pio on Jul-14-2005 21:13:

Another great remix of theirs was the Mindcircus remix. So simple yet so effective.

I remember I was one of the first TAs to hype up G & D, especially in those threads back in 2002 about the best American producers. They really impressed me back then.

I think the problem with the McProg sound nowadays is that everything is so overproduced and saturated in a generic way that it leaves a bad aftertaste.


Posted by Cloud on Jul-14-2005 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by zoric
Fully agreed


as always...


Posted by Az on Jul-14-2005 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Pio

I think the problem with the McProg sound nowadays is that everything is so overproduced and saturated in a generic way that it leaves a bad aftertaste.

yet their stuff sounds nothing like the other McProg artists (with the exception of that vile above and beyond remix), so how can G+D be labelled as that?


Posted by aloep on Jul-14-2005 23:25:

quote:
Originally posted by [Chriz]
hmm if you don't mind me asking, what's 'circuit house'?


Stuff that's played around (usually) gay clubs in NYC. It's quite synthy and often has "diva" vocals. G&D's Remix of Madonna vs Britney Spears - Me Against The Music comes close to this style and their remix of Kristine W - Save My Soul to a lesser extent.


Posted by Nayil on Jul-15-2005 00:21:

elektra


Posted by PlasticSoul on Jul-15-2005 00:28:

let me classify them:

good prog trance with some mcprog elements, a bit more housey...


Posted by sEpH on Jul-15-2005 04:27:

progressive speedcore


Posted by Pio on Jul-15-2005 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
yet their stuff sounds nothing like the other McProg artists (with the exception of that vile above and beyond remix), so how can G+D be labelled as that?


I disagree that their style sounds nothing like other McProg artists. I thnink G & D are definitely more classy, more musical and less formulaic than most McProg artists, but they were the primary source and inspiration for the McProg sound ever since they emerged in early 2002. Eventually G & D themselves evolved their sound into something that sounded more generic and formulaic, and therefore, McProg. For example: ATRC. I like the tune, not as blatantly horrid as something like Satellite, but I consider it as being McProg (I think I'm allowed to, since I invented this term ).

Same as Holden and the Border Community sound...their sound is not McProg at all but McProg artists imitate it and have bastardized that minimal glitchy melodic tech sound way too much.


Posted by Soonmeister on Jul-15-2005 16:40:

Bit of both if you ask me


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