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Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-16-2005 00:04:
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Public Domain - Operation Blade
Total ripoff!
The original that they sampled from, New Order - Confusion (Pump Panel Reconstruction Mix), is way better. |
Neither trance nor rated by anyone.
I also think Out of the Blue is really given an unfair rap by too many. To me its a really fun track, with that character in the percussion and bass that says "I'm just an energetic fun mofo", rather than taking itself seriously.
Airwave makes me sick, it's so utterly horrific. Xpander is over-rated, but it has a moody charm and is a lot more entrancing than most trance.
Stuff I find over-rated:
JOOF's Mix of Caf� del Mar. I was expecting something from this, after hearing the hype of various TAs, but it turned out to be over-long and blossomed into the Three 'N One mix, but a lot quieter. Boo hiss.
Oliver Lieb's Mix of Lost Vagueness. Cool spooky female robot voices a good track do not make.
Flight 643. If one Tiesto track is over-rated, it's this one. It doesn't even have a tune, it sounds like Tiesto banged a keyboard with his elbow until he got something interesting out of it. Not to mention the breakdown doing sweet FA. Ironically, I think Lieb did the best mix of this one, although controversially I liked the vocal remake.
BT- Remember. Ugh. A clever little guitary bit goes to total waste when the sounds of a pre-school talent show are passed off as vocals on this track.
Posted by Cobalt on Jul-16-2005 00:27:
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
JOOF's Mix of Caf� del Mar. I was expecting something from this, after hearing the hype of various TAs, but it turned out to be over-long and blossomed into the Three 'N One mix, but a lot quieter. Boo hiss. |
It's true that the JOOF mix draws from the Three 'n One, but is there a mix of Cafe del Mar since the Three 'n One that doesn't?
I think it's easily the best Cafe del Mar remix since the Three 'n One. It brings a completely different attitude to the track, very driving and moody, something with often fails in remix efforts.
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| Oliver Lieb's Mix of Lost Vagueness. Cool spooky female robot voices a good track do not make. |
I like the Lieb remix, but I agree it's quite overrated.
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| Flight 643. If one Tiesto track is over-rated, it's this one. It doesn't even have a tune, it sounds like Tiesto banged a keyboard with his elbow until he got something interesting out of it. Not to mention the breakdown doing sweet FA. |
Probably Tiesto's best, imo. 
It was groundbreaking. Nothing else sounded like Flight 643 at the time, especially not in the trance mainstream. The gamble Tiesto played with Flight 643 is huge; it was a significant departure from his tried-and-true sound, and could easily have been his biggest flop because of that risk. It's still every bit as energetic as it was new, perhaps moreso.
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| BT- Remember. Ugh. A clever little guitary bit goes to total waste when the sounds of a pre-school talent show are passed off as vocals on this track. |
Totally agree!
Posted by Cobalt on Jul-16-2005 00:28:
Re: I love these threads...
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Originally posted by djbayko
- Any production of Paul Van Dyk (except Nothing But You). |
Oh, the irony.
And all you people saying Traffic... you're really missing out.
Posted by raydn on Jul-16-2005 00:32:
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Originally posted by sw1
Paul Oakenfold - Starry-Eyed Surprise (or whatever the hell it's called)
Total crap. Guess I won't be drinking Diet Coke anytime soon. |
Oliver lieb remix isn't all that bad
Posted by canadian didjer on Jul-16-2005 00:57:
i'm afraid i'll have to say marco v's production of caf� del mar, its a little overrated cause he's like one of the best canadian trance artists (the only canadian trance artist?)
as well as that: [insert a tiesto track here]
Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-16-2005 00:58:
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Originally posted by canadian didjer
i'm afraid i'll have to say marco v's production of caf� del mar, its a little overrated cause he's like one of the best canadian trance artists (the only canadian trance artist?) |
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Marco V is Dutch.
Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-16-2005 01:09:
did someone say silence already?
Posted by NuDarkBeat on Jul-16-2005 01:42:
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Originally posted by tieann
Mauro Picotto - Lizard
Iguana & Komodo are MUCH better than the shit that is Lizard. |
ummm all i have to say is paul oakenfold live from gatecrasher 99. ummm its coming to get ya. i dont remember what remix it is i think its Mauro Picotto - Lizard (Megavoices Remix) but that track is the sickest song i have ever heard played in a set.
Posted by Googooly on Jul-16-2005 01:46:
crazy frog - Alexf(popcorn remix)

Posted by AlphaStarred on Jul-16-2005 02:02:
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And all you people saying Traffic... you're really missing out. |
err...no. Traffic is completely useless and shouldn't have even been engendered.
Listen to Psykofuk - Psykofuk
Posted by Cobalt on Jul-16-2005 02:06:
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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
err...no. Traffic is completely useless and shouldn't have even been engendered.
Listen to Psykofuk - Psykofuk |
I have. I like Traffic much more than Psykofuk, and have seen its effect on the dancefloor time and again.
People are entitled to their taste; I'm not saying anyone is 'right' or 'wrong' on this. But it seems such a shame to dislike Traffic given how plain cool of a track it is to experience for so many others.
Posted by AlphaStarred on Jul-16-2005 02:14:
Fair enough. All the same though, virtually any Tiesto production is bound to have a substantial effect upon the dancefloor; whether it's Traffic or Just Be, people who go to a Tiesto gig often know what to anticipate and dance their tits off whether he's spinning his own stuff or even DJ Sammy, I daresay.
Posted by Cobalt on Jul-16-2005 02:31:
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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
Fair enough. All the same though, virtually any Tiesto production is bound to have a substantial effect upon the dancefloor; whether it's Traffic or Just Be, people who go to a Tiesto gig often know what to anticipate and dance their tits off whether he's spinning his own stuff or even DJ Sammy, I daresay. |
I understand what you're saying, but I really disagree on this one. Traffic has been an exception to that rule in my experience. I've seen the half-hearted enthusiasm of a crowd reacting simply out of recognition value -- Just Be as one of the most pathetic examples -- and it doesn't match the vibe Traffic brings to the floor. The contrast is striking.
In fact, the best reaction I've seen from Traffic occured when PvD spun it in 2003 at Central Park. Funny that the most electrifying track of the Paul-only night was a Tiesto production.
As much as it pains me to admit, this is something I can't objectively prove to you. But others on this board have said as much.
Posted by eulerfx on Jul-16-2005 02:34:
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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
Fair enough. All the same though, virtually any Tiesto production is bound to have a substantial effect upon the dancefloor; whether it's Traffic or Just Be, people who go to a Tiesto gig often know what to anticipate and dance their tits off whether he's spinning his own stuff or even DJ Sammy, I daresay. |
A lot of my friends who don't listen to EDM at all, give special attention to Traffic. Even when I first played the Just Be CD to them two years ago, they made a note of Traffic righ away, so its more then just Tiesto hype. Tiesto knows what people want.
If you look at the tune objectively, then its merits come to show. It exploits the dancefloor atmosphere and mentality, to make a very strong energy builder track.
Posted by Cobalt on Jul-16-2005 02:36:
I've even spun Traffic myself, at parties where 95% of those attending had no idea who made it or what it was called, and it had the same effect. The dancefloor just lights up.
Posted by AlphaStarred on Jul-16-2005 03:31:
How many copies of Traffic were sold?
Posted by Aiwendil on Jul-16-2005 03:48:
AAAAH!
Spastik...I think we should figure that one out first.
Posted by AlphaStarred on Jul-16-2005 03:51:

Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-16-2005 07:51:
yeah and Darude - Sandstorm always put the dancefloor on fore, or Zombie Nation. Doesn't mean that those tracks are like heavenly.
as a matter of fact both are better than Traffic 
oh yeah Silence (Tiesto remix) is very very overrated too.
Lost Vaugueness is not overrated. I would say underrated. Most ASOT-ppl haven't even heard of it, or any other Lieb productions. It's too "deep" for them. Assholes
Posted by knoxy5000 on Jul-16-2005 10:35:
Most overated crap = sasha on abelton, and any thing to do with and or by markus schulz
Posted by vrahnos on Jul-16-2005 10:37:
Re: And the most overated trance track goes to.......
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dj tiesto - traffic
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+1
piece of shit track....screw you guys i'm going home
Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-16-2005 13:33:
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Originally posted by RebeL9
Lost Vaugueness is not overrated. I would say underrated. Most ASOT-ppl haven't even heard of it, or any other Lieb productions. It's too "deep" for them. Assholes |
This is the problem with most people here. It doesn't matter how many people have heard it, it matters how highly rated it is by those who have. And I say there's nothing special about it at all.
By the way... Traffic sold almost nothing outside of Holland.
Posted by jeepey on Jul-16-2005 16:10:
Totally goes to Planet Perfecto, "Bullet in the gun"
Released over and over, like stamping on something until it's dead (and boring to start with!)
Posted by Cobalt on Jul-16-2005 17:35:
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Originally posted by jeepey
Totally goes to Planet Perfecto, "Bullet in the gun"
Released over and over, like stamping on something until it's dead (and boring to start with!) |
Oh, I forgot Bullet In The Gun!
I agree, definitely high up there.
Posted by PEZ68 on Jul-16-2005 17:37:
Most of Solid Globe tracks
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