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Originally posted by The Highroller These Sony products are kicking the iPods' ass in Japan right now.

its about time Sony woke up. They were getting killed in the global market for so long. The problem is, its all proprietary technology, and they don't want to merge with other companies, always want to stand on their own. I think it really hurt them.

They also have special circumstances to deal with, because they own a major record label. They have to deal with the politics of fighting piracy on one hand, and then making players which are compatible with that piracy on the other hand

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Originally posted by Orko its about time Sony woke up. They were getting killed in the global market for so long. The problem is, its all proprietary technology, and they don't want to merge with other companies, always want to stand on their own. I think it really hurt them. They also have special circumstances to deal with, because they own a major record label. They have to deal with the politics of fighting piracy on one hand, and then making players which are compatible with that piracy on the other hand

I suppose that can be tricky, eh?


And Graham: Don't like them...

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar And Graham: Don't like them...

Why? They have much longer battery life and screens.

speaking of battery life:

iRiver iFP-790

40 hours!!!1

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar I suppose that can be tricky, eh?

tricky? hell ya. I remember they came out with the first tiny player with 20 gigs, ipod mini size, but with 20gigs. Only problem was, it only played Sony's mp3 format. So you either had to transcode everything, or re-rip all your cds. Pain in the ass! One of my friends bought it, against my recomendation, and he broke, and was fine with that. He now has an Iriver, and is happier.

The fact is, they tried to make both hands happy, this way, you couldnt play downloaded music on it, very easily, but the end user was so frustrated it didnt matter.

Sony is starting to turn around though. The impact of iTunes has helped, so Sony launched its own music purchasing program, not very successfull at this point in time. They have got to see the big picture.

There are lots of smaller companies like Iriver and Achros coming out with very functional players at decent prices, because the technology is now cheap. They cannot afford to stand alone anymore, the globalized market no longer works like that.

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Originally posted by The Highroller Why? They have much longer battery life and screens.

But they dont look attractive and I very much dont like the design. I need a balance of both: something I am pleased with aesthetically, that also has the funactionality that I want/need.

~Jem~

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar But they dont look attractive and I very much dont like the design. I need a balance of both: something I am pleased with aesthetically, that also has the funactionality that I want/need. ~Jem~

i just looked at their website, and looked at the photos, i really liked the way the screen looked, so futuristic

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Originally posted by Orko i just looked at their website, and looked at the photos, i really liked the way the screen looked, so futuristic

Actually I suppose your right... they're are pretty cool looking upon closer inspection... and they do indeed look futuristic...

Okay, sorry Graham, I've changed my opinion upson closer reflection....

They are a nifty little mp3 player. *apologies*

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar But they dont look attractive and I very much dont like the design. I need a balance of both: something I am pleased with aesthetically, that also has the funactionality that I want/need. ~Jem~

I guess it depends what you're looking for in a playback device. I myself do not care about how it looks. I'm not buying it for looks. I'm buying it for it's "quality". I consider the Sony a "higher quality" product because it has longer battery life (~70hrs?) and a screen. The iPod shuffle has neither of these.

Granted, the Sony product is $80 more expensive, but that is 80 I'm willing to pay considering the extra features the Sony product has.

whores!

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Originally posted by The Highroller I guess it depends what you're looking for in a playback device. I myself do not care about how it looks. I'm not buying it for looks. I'm buying it for it's "quality". I consider the Sony a "higher quality" product because it has longer battery life (~70hrs?) and a screen. The iPod shuffle has neither of these. Granted, the Sony product is $80 more expensive, but that is 80 I'm willing to pay considering the extra features the Sony product has.

I would 100% pick those Sony products over an iPod shuffle ANYDAY of the week.

No whether I'd buy one over a iPod (orig., mini or photo), no, I wouldn't -- but they're not really comparable -- they're in difference classes.

But certainly, you're right Graham, I'd rather own and pay that extra 80$ for the Sony than the shuffle.

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar I would 100% pick those Sony products over an iPod shuffle ANYDAY of the week. No whether I'd buy one over a iPod (orig., mini or photo), no, I wouldn't -- but they're not really comparable -- they're in difference classes. But certainly, you're right Graham, I'd rather own and pay that extra 80$ for the Sony than the shuffle.

But besides looks, what does the original iPod have over Sony's NWE407L Network Walkman 1 GB MP3 Flash Player?

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Originally posted by The Highroller But besides looks, what does the original iPod have over Sony's NWE407L Network Walkman 1 GB MP3 Flash Player?

4 more gigabytes of storage.

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Originally posted by The Highroller But besides looks, what does the original iPod have over Sony's NWE407L Network Walkman 1 GB MP3 Flash Player?

uummm the fact that it's only 1gb?

OK he beat me

I still have my original 5GB iPod. My sisters use it now.

Archos Gmini has 20 GB

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf Archos Gmini has 20 GB

My 5GB iPod is from 2001.

That said, I have a 3rd-generation 15GB iPod currently.

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Originally posted by The Highroller But besides looks, what does the original iPod have over Sony's NWE407L Network Walkman 1 GB MP3 Flash Player?

The ability for me to trasfer over my Contacts, Calendar, memos (which actually I do write to myself when going place to view on my iPod... ie. directions or notes for stuff to do), etc. etc. (including weather too).

Most of those I couldnt honestly care about -- they are not selling points... BUT, the CONTACTS function is CRITICAL to me... i dont use cellphones and I need to know ppl's number when not at home and dont have Outlook handy -- store EVERYTHING in Outlook Contacts, email, phone numbers, address, birthday, IT ALL!

That lovely ability to be able to put on my contacts is a pure godsend.

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar I would 100% pick those Sony products over an iPod shuffle ANYDAY of the week. No whether I'd buy one over a iPod (orig., mini or photo), no, I wouldn't -- but they're not really comparable -- they're in difference classes.

They are not in different price classes though. They are about the same price. With the Sony Network Walkman, you're basically sacrificing battery life for space (iPod). I guess it depends on your usage patterns.

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